[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('netpaw', '.')..the "fossil fuel" theory...

[netpaw]

Thank you guys for replying, especially for the links provided. Though I do question the relevance of posting links to suggestions of shipping methane to earth from titan when I allready indicated this is not going to happen.

"I don't think it's being actively created in large quantities though I could be mistaken. "

"Curious - how do you know Methane is being "generated" on Titan"

"The presence of a substance is just that but it does not prove current generation yet some of us certainly are hoping so"

From what I have read about Titan is that at the rate that Methane is escaping from the atmosphere then they have concluded that Methane must be generating inside Titan in large quantitites... but I thought I put that in my post. I guess despite the many posts about transporting Methane from Titan not many have actually read up about Titan or you wouldn't have questioned me stating that anyway.

In all honesty I was hoping to get some responses into the relevance of hydrocarbons ( Methane ) observed being generated on another body in our solar system but if no one has even bothered to look into it I guess there's not much point.

[Rod_Cloutier]

Watch out for the Chinese space program. China's economy is hungry for energy and they are actively developing their space program. In a decade or two they may be in a position to actively exploit space resources.

If NASA is too pessimistic to explore the potentials of space based resources- the Chinese are more opportunistic and have no such limititations.

[Judgie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')We reached a terminal point, a point of no return, when we no longer had sufficient excess energy to reasonably fund such a project, or to fund a major project to find an alternative to oil and build the necessary infrastructure.

[Newsseeker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Repent', '
')These tankers could drop their frozen methane cargo into low Earth orbit & then we could extract the methane from the Earth's atmosphere at our leisure.

[Newsseeker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'T')alk about mortgaging the future away...

And condemning everyone in the future, to a servitude of slavery...just so you and your fly-boy kin can play space cowboys?


namaste

Raphael

[Plantagenet]

It is better to light a candle then to curse the darkness,

and

It is better to fly a rocket ship to Jupiter then to starve in a mud hut.

[Plantagenet]

I haven't looked at the numbers, but I doubt its very practical to move Jupiter to earth's orbit.

The fact remains that there are significant energy sources in outer space.

Solar energy, for example. The sun is by far the largest source of energy in the solar system. Its not renewable, true, but the sun isn't expected to burn out for billions of years. That would keep us going for awhile.

[mlit]

Definitely not cost effective. Instead of building tankers / infrastructure to do this, build solar satellites to gather solar energy beam it down and use that energy to power / extract hydrogen from water.
But I'm sure by the time we get to the point of being willing to spend large amounts of resources to try crazy things it will probably be to little to late.

[basil_hayden]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'I')t is better to light a candle then to curse the darkness,

and

It is better to fly a rocket ship to Jupiter then to starve in a mud hut.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', 't')his "plan" is more akin to burning the last candle on a bright sunny day...

[basil_hayden]

Hey, I'm all for space travel.

If we could send 5 billion folks in space, to be used as fuel, maybe we'll make it to the next planet.

But it's not happening because it can't happen, get it?

The energy isn't there to play with.

Got some dilithium crystals? I don't. Either does the government.

But if they had them, we wouldn't need to go to effing Jupiter for effing methane.

See the problem in your illogic?

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', 'T')he energy isn't there

[Plantagenet]

Space-based solar power offers energy from an unending source with no emissions and very little environmental impact.

According to NASA, using today's technology a space solar power system could generate energy at a cost of 60 to 80 cents per kilowatt-hour. This estimate includes construction costs for the first system.


"We believe that in 15 to 25 years we can lower that cost to 7 to 10 cents per kilowatt hour," said NASA's Marzwell. The market price today is around 5 to 6 cents per kilowatt-hour.

[basil_hayden]

I belive it was purcatty in another thread regarding the space rail gun that shot you a new anus with this line of thinking, but apparently you never learn.

Thanks purcatty, you were very well spoken in that post.

[Judgie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', 'H')ey, I'm all for space travel.

If we could send 5 billion folks in space, to be used as fuel, maybe we'll make it to the next planet.

[basil_hayden]

read purcatty's posts on this thread

Eloquently presented, me thinks.