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Trader's Corner 2007

Discussions about the economic and financial ramifications of PEAK OIL

Where will WTI crude be on DEC 31st 2007?

Poll ended at Thu 19 Apr 2007, 04:20:21

under $50 per barrel
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around $55
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around $60
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No votes
around $65
12
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around $70
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around $75
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Total votes : 61

Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Fri 16 Feb 2007, 11:02:44

Sorry for the lack of posts. A very frustrating trading week and busy with some other stuff.

First a summary of Wednesday's & Thursday's numbers, which I am still mulling over.

Crude down 600K to 323.9 vs +1.2 mio bbls f/c
Gasoline down 2 mio to 225.2 vs +1.9 mio bbls f/c
Distillates down 3 mio to 133.3 vs -4.2 mio bbls f/c
Heating oil stocks down 2.7 mio to 50.8 mio

Net down 8.3 mio bbls vs down 1.1 mio bbls f/c


Or down almost 8X f/c's, so it was quite surprising that markets chose to focus on lower than expected draws in distillates and ignore the overall draw in inventory.

Imports up 37k bpd to 9.58 mbpd
Product imports up 21k bpd to 3.25 mbpd
Refinery use down 0.7% to 86.6%

Gasoline demand up 3.6% to 9.07 mbpd
Distillate demand up 7% to 4.50 mbpd
Total demand up 5% to 21.17 mbpd


So supply down, imports lower than expected, demand higher and the market went down even though the IEA cut world supply and increased its OECD demand forecasts, while Chinese demand surged 9.3% in 2006.

This on top of nat gas inventories this week that showed an almost record drop in inventories of -259 bcf on cold weather.

The market is either very complacent on inventory or they are predicting lower economic activity, which is supported by today's lower housing starts. They fell 14.3 percent while building permits dropped 2.8 percent. Causing the 10Y UST to rally to 4.69% and the US dollar to strengthen ever so slightly to $1.3100 from recent weakness.

We are having an afternoon rally in the crude today, but this week's close looks to be lower than last week. From a purely technical point of view this is bearish crude prices.

The ABC correction of the bull rally that ended last summer at $78.40 would look like this.

A - $78.40 to $49.80 = $28.60

$28.60 x 0.382R = $10.93

B - $49.80 + $10.93 = $60.72

last Friday's high was $60.80 = 0.382R

C - $60.80 - $28.60 = $32.20

if C is at least as long as A as would be common in an ABC correction.

This scenario is negated IF we take out $60.80 before we take out $49.80, but the key will be holding support above $55.90. If $55.90 holds then it might be construed that instead of being in an ABC correction that $49.80 was in fact the low and we are instead in a 12345 type rally. A correction to $55.90 would be the 4th leg of the sequence with a break of $60.80 being the 5th wave.

So much for technical analysis, I just wanted to point out that from a technical point of view at least that lower prices were possible and with the end of winter we do not have a weather variable to support demand or prices until later on in the hurricane season. And some are calling for lower prices.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') Oil will drop more than 30 percent to
$40 a barrel in March and may drop to $30 as rising prices for
storing crude lead to a `breaking point' that forces speculators
to sell, Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. said.
Oil will slide because greater investment in commodity
futures has driven the market into contango, according to analysts
led by London-based Neil McMahon. The phenomenon occurs when
futures prices rise above spot prices, often reflecting handling
or storage costs.
``As storage fills up, storage costs rise and the contango
widens,'' the analysts said in a February report. ``At some point,
investors will reallocate money away from the commodity funds,
causing futures prices to fall.''
Last month, New York-traded crude fell to $49.90 a barrel as
warmer-than-expected weather spread across the U.S. and fuel
inventories surged. Crude has since risen on a second production
cut by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries and a
cold snap in the U.S., the world's largest energy consumer.
The ``breaking point'' could come in March if Saudi Arabia,
OPEC's largest producer, fails to cut production below 8 million
barrels per day, the level needed to keep the market balanced, the
Bernstein analysts said. Spare capacity would rise, widening the
contango and driving investors out.


Source: Sanford C. Bernstein & Co/Bloomberg, February 14, 2006

But of course that is only one opinion and Goldman Sachs provides the other side of the market's view.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '`')`After four years of fund flow into commodity futures,
investors in oil are now struggling with how to generate a return
with the curve in contango and a negative roll yield,'' he said.
Investors can lose money even as oil rises when funds sell
expiring contracts and then pay more for future contracts.
Bernstein said Oct. 16 that oil will probably fall to an
average $50 a barrel in 2007 as inventories remain high and non-
OPEC production rises. Crude has averaged $55.76 so far this year.
Among analysts predicting an increase in oil prices, Goldman
Sachs Group Inc. says New York futures may rise to $71.50 a barrel
this year because producer investment is ``significantly'' short
of requirements.
The price of West Texas Intermediate, the benchmark U.S.
crude, may average $69 this year, Goldman economist James Gutman
said Feb. 8. The fuel reached a record $78.40 a barrel in New York
on July 14.

Goldman Bullish

Goldman said in December 2005 that oil prices may go as high
as $105 a barrel in a ``super spike'' period that may last until
2009, as production lags growing world demand.


Source: Bloomberg, February 14, 2006

For me I think weak US economic growth will mitigate oil demand, but a weaker dollar along with strong demand from China and Asia will keep prices supported. Look to base and precious metals prices for some hints as well. So far they have reacted positively to the China SPR/demand story.



Friday night UPDATE: A very bullish close. I would not have believed it yesterday. But a close over $59.20 in the March WTI and now on the continuation chart the April is $59.80. So constructive for the rally to close above the weekly moving averages. This keeps the rally alive another week.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Mon 19 Feb 2007, 08:47:28

A very quiet start to the week with the US on holidays. WTI is hugging $59 per barrel with a few weak attempts at either side of the range. More than likely the strong close to the week ending Friday was due to position squaring and traders closing their short positions ahead of the 3-day long weekend. At least according to the COTS report on open positions. Still, at least from the technical side, the picture is constructive.


OPEC also sees stronger demand for its crude in 2007.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')PEC, source of more than a third of the world's oil, on Thursday raised an estimate of demand for its crude in 2007, reflecting a lower supply forecast from countries outside the group.

OPEC expects demand for its crude in 2007 to average 30.25
million barrels per day, up from the 30.09 million bpd previously expected, the exporter group said in its Monthly Oil Market Report for February.

The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries also said global oil demand would grow by 1.2 million bpd, or 1.5 percent, this year, little changed from last month's estimate. Milder-than-usual temperatures earlier this year in top oil consumer the United States trimmed demand for heating fuel and OPEC said a return of warmer weather could prompt a cut in expected oil demand.

"If warmer temperatures return for the remainder of the first quarter and the fourth quarter sees a repeat of the current season's mild winter, oil demand growth in 2007 could see a further downward revision," OPEC's report said. "However, the weaker-than-expected performance in non-OPEC supply, due to project delays and unexpected output declines, may be sufficient to offset the decline in the forecast demand."

OPEC's view on oil demand this year is more pessimistic than
that of the Paris-based International Energy Agency, an adviser
to 26 industrialised countries. The IEA this week raised its forecast for 2007 world oil demand growth after revisions to its outlook for China, and told OPEC any further supply cuts could markedly tighten the market.

Source: Reuters, February, 19, 2007

At the moment I see us in a tight range between $56.50/57.25 on the bottom with intermediate support coming in between $57.28 and higher at $58.65. While selling is up near the previous high of $60.80 with some decent channel and trend line resistance accumlating up near there as well.

Translated, I think that means that given the end of the winter heating oil market, and heading into the shoulder period before summer driving season, that there is a lot of selling interest to grind through on the topside. This may open up some weakness in price during Q2'07.

However, recent draw downs in physical stocks have improved refinery margins that now stand around $12.50 for April* versus $8-10 earlier this month. That should prevent prices from plummeting given IEA and OPEC expectations that full-year demand will be stable to strong.

*March/April/May heating oil is in backwardation before returning to contango in June, while the March RBOB (unleaded) is trading at a significant discount to the April futures month. This I assume reflects an immediate demand for heating oil while signalling that the gasoline market is more than well-supplied at the moment.

Blah, blah, blah. Okay enough, already. Speak to you tomorrow.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')SDA Long-Term Projections: Crude Oil



Crude oil prices rose sharply from late 2002 through 2006, largely reflecting increased crude oil demand due to a robust world economic recovery and rapid manufacturing growth in China and India. In 2007 through 2011, crude oil prices are expected to drop modestly and then rise less than the inflation rate as new crude supplies help offset the rise in demand from Asia. After 2011, oil prices are projected to rise slightly faster than the general inflation rate, reflecting rising world oil demand, due to strong global economic growth, particularly in highly energy-dependent economies in Asia.



Partly offsetting those effects, factors expected to constrain longrun increases in oil prices include:



• The ability to switch to nonpetroleum fuels, such as coal and natural gas, especially in industrial uses and electric power generation;



• Increasing energy efficiency due to the substitution of nonenergy inputs (such as microchip-driven equipment) for energy as well as improved energy-use technology;



• Continued expansion and improvement in renewable energy, such as wind and water power, thermal energy, solar power, and biofuels;



• Continued extraction of fossil fuels from unconventional sources such as oil shale and tar sands; and



• New oil discoveries, along with new technologies for finding and extracting oil.



Oil prices have historically affected prices of natural gas and nitrogen-based fertilizer. However, the links between the oil and natural gas markets have weakened significantly due to dramatic growth in the demand for natural gas and deregulation throughout the natural gas supply and demand system. At the same time, fertilizer imports have become more important in domestic supply. Prices for natural gas and nitrogen-based fertilizer have become somewhat more volatile than prices for oil, largely because natural gas is less transportable and, as a result, its supply is more inelastic. Nevertheless, over a longer period of time, oil and natural gas prices are expected to move more closely together as the United States and other natural gas importers develop the capacity to import more liquefied natural gas.
USDA Long-Term Projections: Crude Oil
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Tue 20 Feb 2007, 15:10:44

Technical weakness. Down 150 points back up 50. Still very weak. No impetus to take it higher. Here is a very interesting geo-political article. Perhaps it does not belong here, but I thought it had good insights about resource competition, if not wars, and in the historical context is a 180 degree change from Japan's post-world war politics.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Japan's cabinet is set to approve a new energy policy in March that will highlight the development of next-generation nuclear technology and strengthen ties with nations producing oil, natural gas and uranium.
Recycling spent nuclear fuel, increasing dependence on nuclear generation and stepping up ``energy diplomacy'' to boost overseas oil, gas, and uranium assets are pillars of the final draft of the energy policy, distributed at the ruling Liberal Democratic Party's research panel meeting today.
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's government is under pressure to
address the increasing risks of disruptions to oil and gas supplies amid booming demand from China and India. Increasing reliance on nuclear energy may contribute to cutting Japan's oil and gas dependency
.
``We are facing the China issue,'' said Harufumi Mochizuki, head of the agency of natural resources and energy, which falls under the trade ministry, referring to an expected growth in China's oil and gas demand in the years ahead. Mochizuki took part in the energy meeting at the LDP's head office in Tokyo.
The global race for natural resources, declining spare capacity in oil-producing nations and concerns over global warming caused by carbon emissions prompted Japan's government to rework its energy policy, the agency said in a document handed out at the meeting.
The draft policy contains other measures, including promoting energy saving measures, increasing the use of biomass energy, fuel cells, ethanol-blended gasoline, and renewable energy like solar power, according to the document.

Recycling Nuclear Fuel

In November 2006, Japan Nuclear Fuel Ltd., a venture formed by Japanese power companies, produced recycled nuclear fuel for the first time. It produced plutonium-uranium mixed oxide fuel, known as MOX, at its processing plant in Rokkasho, northern Japan.
Recycling the fuel will help the country boost power generated by nuclear plants from about 30 percent currently to above 40 percent without importing additional. The government wants to increase the number of reactors using MOX fuel to 18 by March 2011. The country has 55 nuclear reactors.
Shikoku Electric Power Co., a power producer in southern Japan, got local government approval to use the recycled fuel in October, after Kyushu Electric Power Co., the nation's fifth- biggest generator, got the go-ahead to use the fuel earlier last year.

Energy Diplomacy

Japan's government stepped up efforts last year to clinch closer ties with other Asian nations, and the U.S., to cooperate in energy projects.
The government held ministerial talks in May 2006 with its China to promote energy conservation measures to curb overheated energy demand in the neighboring country.
Abe's immediate predecessor Junichiro Koizumi in August signed an agreement with Kazakhstan's government to jointly develop uranium mines in the central Asian country. Kazakhstan holds 17 percent of the world's uranium reserves, according to the document.
On Nov. 28, Abe agreed to provide President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono's government with assistance for Indonesia's plans to build nuclear power plants. Yudhoyono, in return, promised to develop closer relations with Japan, and continue supplying oil and natural gas.
Japan imported 62.1 million metric tons of liquefied natural gas in 2006, according to trade reports compiled by the finance ministry. Indonesia shipped 14 million tons to Japan, accounting for 23 percent.
source: Feb. 20 (Bloomberg)

Honest to God. If N.Korea continues to cheat on nuclear issues and Iran goes nuclear along with India and Pakistan then I cannot help but think that Japan will also develop defensive nuclear weapons. They already store weapon grade plutonium with the French and the British as well as having small quantities in Japan. They have absolutely no interest in being attacked by N. Korea. That's real politik!!
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby cube » Wed 21 Feb 2007, 14:49:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'S')orry bad trading day. Bought and within one hour was stopped out at the bottom of the range. Now we are 150 points higher. That sucks. Uggh! Back tomorrow.
I know how you feel MrBill. I've been getting that alot this month...literally every week.

BTW happy Lunar New Years/Chinese New Year......supposedly this is the year of the pig. However it feels more like the year of the yo-yo.

Because that's exactly how the market is acting right now. Totally different from last year. :roll:
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 04:24:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'S')orry bad trading day. Bought and within one hour was stopped out at the bottom of the range. Now we are 150 points higher. That sucks. Uggh! Back tomorrow.
I know how you feel MrBill. I've been getting that alot this month...literally every week.

BTW happy Lunar New Years/Chinese New Year......supposedly this is the year of the pig. However it feels more like the year of the yo-yo.

Because that's exactly how the market is acting right now. Totally different from last year. :roll:


I think the older I get the more I suck at day trading! Uggh!

Then again I cut my teeth trading agricultural commodities on the CBOT and WCE, but there it was mostly spread or basis trading between the cash and futures market. Now in crude on the NYMEX and ICE it is all futures and options without any cash market to base my decisions on. And crude trading is completely different than trading FX for example.

Actually, my technicals have been working pretty good, but I have not always followed my models, and I sometimes get nervous and stop myself out and then do not immediately put my positions back on when the models flip. That is pilot error. You, literally, have to be in it to win it, as we say.

Well, the market is grinding higher here on concerns over supply hitches. The WTI has clawed its way back to $60 per barrel in the April futures month. We need to take out $60.80 to regain upside momentum. The 21-day moving average supplied the support last week and earlier this week on the downside.

My official count is now having completed the 4th consolidative wave down at $56.62, and now we are in the 5th leg higher to challenge the top of the 3rd wave at that $60.80. $60.80 was the 0.382R between $78.40 and $49.80. If we take out the resistance at 0.382 then the next important stop is the 0.500 retracement. $78.40 - $49.80 = $28.60 then 50% is an $14.30 + 49.80 = $64.10 objective. I do not know what supply concerns will justify that technical move though? The technicals work best when they support the underlying fundamentals. And with the end of winter heating oil season and ahead of the summer driving season it is hard to see what will take us higher other than geo-political concerns?

As you say, it has been a lot of yo-yo action, so maybe I am just getting bullish at the tail-end of the move? Typical! ; - )
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby pup55 » Thu 22 Feb 2007, 22:48:10

COTS


Mr. Bill:

I am still watching the COTS chart. The behavior of the commercial traders is interesting, I think.

For one thing, they have diverged a little bit from their mirror image of the large traders, which is rare in and of itself.

Secondly, they are now still quite close to "zero", which for them, is decidedly bullish. The crossover of the commercial traders and the small speculators line occurred at the start of rallies in April and October of 2005.

It will be interesting to see if this is a signal.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Fri 23 Feb 2007, 03:47:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', '[')url=http://http://www.freecotcharts.com/charts/CL.htm]COTS[/url]


Mr. Bill:

I am still watching the COTS chart. The behavior of the commercial traders is interesting, I think.

For one thing, they have diverged a little bit from their mirror image of the large traders, which is rare in and of itself.

Secondly, they are now still quite close to "zero", which for them, is decidedly bullish. The crossover of the commercial traders and the small speculators line occurred at the start of rallies in April and October of 2005.

It will be interesting to see if this is a signal.



I am technically on holidays and just getting ready to leave here, but the close last night was very strong. Of course, we may turn on a dime and close the week much lower tonight, but from a purely technical point of view it is very constructive for a continued rally in the direction of $64. As you mentioned this is particularly interesting as we had large short positions betting on the market moving lower that are now being forced to stop themselves out. My feeling is there is significantly less hedge fund type buying this year, so the moves are more genuine (i.e. they are coming from the dedicated investor, hedger or producer not just a wall of money being thrown at an investment class). We'll see. Usually the market is front running information we are not picking up on yet and after the fact it will all be obvious. Like the China demand story for example. In any case, have a nice weekend and speak to you later. Cheers.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Mon 26 Feb 2007, 05:49:50

Goldman Sach's more bullish outlook has been vindicated as opposed to others like Morgan Stanley that were more bearish on the fundamentals. Certainly a strong technical close to last week and persistant drawdowns in inventory combined with heavy demand have firm up the outlook in the near-term.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Further evidence of tighter fundamentals


Most of the volatility in WTI crude oil prices has been concentrated in the longdated timespread, not on price levels

This week WTI crude oil prices closed above $60/bbl for the first time since the beginning of the new year, after having recovered from the big sell-off in mid-January. Over the course of the month, however, crude oil price levels have not changed significantly, starting February at around $59/bbl and trading just below $61/bbl as of yesterday. Instead, volatility has been concentrated in timespreads, with the five-year timespread narrowing by almost 20% this month.

Exceptionally high US petroleum product demand numbers have led to a significant draw in inventories

While refinery inputs declined 416 thousand b/d in the past week, which should account for roughly 3 million barrels of the build in crude oil, petroleum products drew much more heavily-14.8 million barrels week over week-driven by exceptionally strong demand numbers. On net, implied demand for petroleum products was above 22 million barrels per day, the second-highest demand ever recorded, up 5% from year-ago levels.

Strong bunker fuel oil demand has absorbed excess residual fuel oil supplies US residual fuel oil inventories have drawn sharply from high levels as recent strength in natural gas prices relative to residual fuel oil prices has increased demand for the latter. In general, OECD bunker fuel demand has risen significantly, helping absorb excess residual fuel oil supplies.

Source: Goldman Sachs Commodities Research
February 23, 2007

They remain bullish on grain prices as well.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')rains prices - another back-end driven rally


Recent grains price rally has been driven by long-dated prices

The recent rally in grains prices has been led by back-end prices instead of spot prices, much as we have seen in the other commodity markets this year, particularly in the energy markets and in sharp contrast to the last grain price rally in 1996 when a decline in grains inventories drove spot prices higher, leaving back-end prices below front-end prices.

Early 1990s: Structural decline in grains prices

We believe that the grain markets experienced structural changes in the costs of production in the early 1990s, when the market began pricing off of lower-cost Chinese producers and subsidized EU producers as opposed to higher-cost US producers. This coincided with a structural shift in grains prices, which, after 1990, were on average lower for a fixed level of inventories compared to prices prior to the 1990s.

Another structural price shift in the offing for the grains market?

We believe that the costs of producing grains are likely to rise going forward. This is because energy costs as a share of the price of corn remain above the historical average and because low cost producers - that helped to suppress the price of grains in the 1990s - will likely face higher costs of labor, capital, land, and equipment etc. going forward. Further, higher cost
producers such as the US will likely have to be called upon to provide enough supply to meet the current expectation of strong future demand growth for grains driven by feed- and ethanol/biodiesel-related demand, which we believe will likely cause an upward shift in long-term prices for grains. However,
back-end grains prices will likely be capped at energy prices given the substitution effects between agriculture-based biofuels and gasoline, with expensive corn prices relative to energy motivating a reduction in demand for biofuel.
Source:
Goldman Sachs Commodities Research
February 23, 2007

As per my trade recommendation a few weeks ago. That was sell corn, buy wheat. That is now I think starting to happen based on the COTS charts on player's open interest. Although both corn and wheat are increasing in price, wheat jumped quite a lot last week. Wheat jumped to $5.00 per bushel while corn was up to $4.40 per bushel.


Wheat & Corn Longs vs Shorts

The large traders or the specs are record long corn, while the hedgers and commercial traders are going even shorter. Meanwhile in the wheat the situation is completely different. The long and the shorts between the large specs and the industry hedgers are almost balanced close to zero (+/-) with the small traders holding a very steady net short position.

This would indicate to me that the spec longs in corn are very high in expectation of higher prices on the back of higher corn demand for use in ethanol. However, the economics have been deteriorating all along for making ethanol. Making is less attractive above and beyond certain minimum amounts as mandated as use as a fuel additive and/or to meet minimum federal standards. The longs may therefore be quite disappointed in the long-run. However, for this crop year the slight backwardation between March and December will help boost their returns.

March (H) $4.48
May (K) $4.57
July (N) $4.40
December (Z) $4.26

Unlike crude markets that still tend to exhibit that expensive carry trade due to being in contango that eats away at returns.

April (J) $61.50
May (K) $62.75
June (M) $63.75
December (Z) $66.35

As some have pointed out on peak oil dot com any trade-off between crops for food versus crops for fuel is bound to end in higher agricultural commodity prices in the end. However, in the short-term if margins are negative or less than attractive do not expect ethanol refiners to produce flat-out or to build new capacity over and above those Federally mandated minimums.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Tue 27 Feb 2007, 04:24:09

I had an interesting conversation with my colleague who trades US equity yesterday evening. On one hand we see that the price of gold is rising. A sign that they are worried about the value of the dollar or inflation or both. On the other hand the yield on the 10-year UST has compressed to 4.62% p.a. and one year LIBOR is just 5.35% down from 5.45% p.a. about a month ago. The bond and money markets are not worried about inflation it seems. Especially after Greenspan’s comments yesterday that the US might be headed for a recession later in 2007.

One way to reconcile the two views of the market because they both cannot be right is to separate them out as being one is a wide perspective based on loads of liquidity fuelling growth and inflation on a global scale lead by Chindia’s fast pace of economic development and need for base metals, commodities and energy.
The other is to focus on US specifics that indicate that the Fed may be done raising rates and if the economy slows they would be prepared to cut rates in response.

If you add both views together, global inflation and a domestic slowdown, you get stagflation. Is it the same benign stagflation that we saw in the 1970s or will it be exacerbated by global financial imbalances?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')easured on a rolling 52-week basis, seasonally adjusted M2 rose by 5.6% for the year through February 5, according to Federal Reserve data. That's the fastest annual pace in two years, as our chart below shows.

How fast is 5.6%? For perspective, the economy expanded at a 5.0% annual rate during last year's fourth quarter (measured in seasonally adjusted nominal terms, as per the Bureau of Economic Analysis). The point, dear readers, is that money supply is expanding at a rate faster than the economy's.

Source: The Capital Spectator, February 19, 2007
MONEY QUESTIONS (AGAIN)

I tend to think that the Feb, rightly or wrongly, will choose to defend US growth over global inflation stability. Why? Well, Asian central banks and OPEC and non-OPEC oil producers have failed to do their part to rein in inflation by slowing growth; letting their own currencies strengthen on a trade weighted or purchasing power basis; or developing their own capital markets and domestic economies. So the Fed, rightly or wrongly, may decide to Hell with it, they may well drop rates and increase money supply further in response to local conditions in the USA, and let the international cards fall where they may!

Of course, that also may mean a lower US dollar, spreading the pain to the US’ international creditors as well as fueling demand for gold as a hedge against higher global inflation and a weaker US dollar.

So in short, I think the bond market and the gold bugs are both right. One is focusing on the domestic slowdown and the other on global developments. The odd man out it seems in the stock market which has been ticking along nicely on the back of a benign outlook for core inflation and high corporate earnings.

A douse of global inflation and a weaker US dollar would also be good for crude oil prices, so long as demand stays as strong as it has been. I cannot yet reconcile strong demand with a slower US economy, but year to date the demand has been strong. Also, China’s and the US’ plans to increase their SPRs will add to that demand as well as stronger growth in Japan and Germany fuelled by growth in China. Again that leads support to the stagflation scenario. A two speed global economy.

Plus many other countries including Australia, Canada and the EU are actually adding money supply faster than the USA. Russia's M2 is up 48.9% year on year! All that extra supply has to flow somewhere.

UPDATE: The Shanghai stock market dropped 8.8% today, while the yen jumped 1% on the back of unwinding of the yen carry trade and the fear that yen shorts may get squeezed. The EURJPY rally has subsequently corrected lower. Is this the beginning of the big one? Stockmarkets look very vulnerable right about now.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MOCKBA » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 01:48:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'S')o the Fed, rightly or wrongly, may decide to Hell with it, they may well drop rates and increase money supply further in response to local conditions in the USA, and let the international cards fall where they may!

This in fact was a stated position of Greenspan back when he was a chief. I don't think the policy changed with new chief.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'U')PDATE: The Shanghai stock market dropped 8.8% today, while the yen jumped 1% on the back of unwinding of the yen carry trade and the fear that yen shorts may get squeezed. The EURJPY rally has subsequently corrected lower. Is this the beginning of the big one? Stockmarkets look very vulnerable right about now.

This is a question I've been asking all day today watching minor panic on TV in the second half of the day... Then we've got reports of computer glitches uproperly reported as "program trading", so all in all less then 4% or just about erazing last 3 months worth of gains out of a 13% bull in last 6 months. Unless we eraze those 13% by the end of the week, it is nothing.

Here is more interesting stuff on how risk premiums behaved - not even close to panic, and this could be the beginning of the big one, i.e. when liquidity drys up because risk premiums failed to fully correct. Imagine if Shanghai would loose 130% of its last year gains while Dow would loose its mere 15% what would that do to risk premiums and holders of the emerging bonds?
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 04:02:53

Here is a contra-opinion which in many ways makes sense. Think about it? Higher prices were supposed to be bad for economies and especially disasterous for emerging markets. However, as producers of base metals, commodities and oil & gas they have actually done quite well out of higher prices, while the developing world has adjusted to higher prices quite easily. This is not to say that no one would notice $120 crude, but very few seem bothered with oil at $60 per barrel.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')-- If you want stock markets to keep
rallying, then root for higher oil prices.
That may sound like the counterintuitive advice of the
decade. After all, traditional economic theory holds that
costlier petroleum usually spells bad news for stocks. Companies'
production costs rise, reducing profit margins. And as more
spending is diverted to gassing up the family car or heating
homes, consumers' disposable income shrinks.
That translates into lower sales and earnings for many
companies unlucky enough to be outside the oil or gas business.
True enough. Yet the massive amounts of liquidity that have
propelled the prices of global stocks, real estate and
contemporary art to stratospheric heights in the past four years
may be altering the assumption that expensive oil is always bad
for financial assets
.
From a low of $25.24 on April 29, 2003, the price of a
barrel of West Texas Intermediate crude traded on the New York
Mercantile Exchange has more than doubled to about $60 as of Feb.
22. During the same period, the Standard & Poor's 500 Index rose
59 percent, the Dow Jones Stoxx 600 Index in Europe rallied 94
percent, the MSCI Emerging Markets Index more than tripled in
value, and the Tokyo Stock Price Index has gained 131 percent.
As the price of oil skyrockets, petroleum-exporting nations
become wealthier. In economist-speak, their current-account
surpluses expand. Those petrodollar surpluses are then recycled
to other markets, particularly the U.S., where the flows help
finance the current-account deficit, which was $656 billion
through the first three quarters of 2006
.

Cash Stash

Figuring out just where oil exporters stash their cash is
one of the riddles of global finance. That's because many
allocate funds to institutions such as the Kuwait Investment
Authority and external money managers, unlike Asian central
banks, which tend to manage their reserves in-house.
Still, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in December
estimated that $314 billion, or about a quarter of fuel-
exporters' combined $1.3 trillion in current-account surpluses
from 2003 through 2006, was recycled back to the U.S. directly
.
An additional chunk was probably recycled indirectly into
dollars via third parties. ``Purchases of U.S. securities may be
booked largely through intermediaries based in London or offshore
financial centers,'' the International Monetary Fund said in a
report last April. The IMF estimates that about 60 percent of
fuel exporters' official reserves are held in dollar assets
.
What's more, fuel exporters are becoming more important in
the recycling business. At $528 billion, their current-account
surpluses in 2006 surpassed Asia's $437 billion for the first
time since the 1970s
.

Heads or Tails?

The flip side of higher oil prices leading to rising stock
markets is that declining oil prices may lead to falling
equities. That's because cheaper oil translates into smaller
current-account surpluses in places such as Saudi Arabia, Russia
and Kuwait. That means less money to invest in the U.S. and other
financial markets
.
``There will be lower capital surpluses recycled back into
major financial markets, particularly into dollar assets,'' says
Daniel Casali, an economist at London-based consulting firm
Independent Strategy. ``That will lower demand for equities and
bonds and increase the cost of capital, particularly in the U.S.,
the main beneficiary of global capital recycling.''
There are, of course, caveats to the view that oil markets
dictate equity prices. Much depends on why oil prices decline,
says George Magnus, a London-based economic adviser to UBS AG.

Oil Forecasts

``If they fell because of supply increases and a global soft
landing, I suspect the effects on markets would be benign.''
For fuel exporters' current-account surpluses just to match
last year's total, oil this year would have to average about $70
a barrel, compared with a 2006 average of $66.23, Casali says.
At $60 a barrel, oil is now 22 percent below its $77.03
record high on July 14, 2006. Oil this year will cost $60.50 a
barrel, according to the median forecast of 36 analysts in a
Bloomberg survey.
Casali predicts an even lower $55. At that price, the
exporters' surpluses will fall by $152 billion to $376 billion,
he calculates. After adjusting for an IMF forecast of a small
increase in Asian surpluses, he says that capital flows may
shrink by $139 billion.
For a taste of what a pullback in global liquidity might be
like, one could consider Japan's decision last year to tighten
monetary policy. From late March to mid-June, the country's
central bank withdrew $186 billion from domestic lenders, and
Japanese investors responded by cutting their overseas holdings.
From May 9 to June 13, the MSCI World Index fell 12 percent,
while the MSCI Emerging Markets Index plunged 25 percent.

Industries at Risk

Moreover, a 2004 study by the U.S. Federal Reserve found
that 10-year Treasury yields fell 7 basis points for each annual
$10 billion increase in net foreign investment in the U.S. That
implies higher yields, if global capital flows shrink. And if
cheaper oil ignites inflation, central banks may respond by
raising interest rates, further hurting stock and bond markets.
The combination of lower oil prices and rising interest
rates may be especially bad for energy and financial companies,
which have benefited the most from higher oil prices and low
interest rates, accounting for the lion's share of global profit
growth in 2006. Those two industries make up 35 percent of the
value of the MSCI World Index, compared with 20 percent in 2000
.
``Should the oil price fall further or even just stay where
it is, global financial markets will lose a valuable source of
liquidity and a major portion of corporate earnings could take a
hit,'' Casali says.
So if you want stock markets to keep climbing, start
cheering for the Arabs, Iranians, Russians and Nigerians, not to
mention the Norwegians and Venezuelans.
Otherwise, run for cover.

Source: Feb. 23 (Bloomberg)

Also, the assumption is that these oil producers and resource exporters are doing 'something' productive with their export receipts. That may not really hold-up to analysis. Take Dubai. They are building more office space than Shanghai with their oil wealth. More than SF and Minnesota ccmbined in the past two years alone. And yet the size of Dubai's population is just a few million compared with China's 1.3 billion, and the capitalization of all Dubai companies in miniscule compared to the other major financial centers. They may be building for the future, as in build it and they will come, but if crude drops in price we will see how correlated their construction boom is with their oil related industries.

And this from Russia.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Russia's consolidated budget loses 500-800 billion rubles ($19-30 billion) a year from fictitious banking operations, the chairman of the Russian Central Bank said Tuesday.

Fictitious operations involve transactions that are carried out for purposes other than those stated, Sergei Ignatyev told the hearings at the State Duma, the lower house of Russia's parliament.

"Overall, the volume of such operations amounts to 1,500-2,000 billion rubles ($57-76 billion) a year," Ignatyev said.

Operations to debit cash for allegedly legal purposes are the most widespread type of fictitious banking transactions. In reality, cash goes to pay "gray" wages, offer bribes and carry out other illegal deals, Ignatyev said.

The monthly volume of cash debiting operations in the Russian banking sector is estimated at 50-80 billion rubles ($1.9-3 billion), the country's chief banker said.

Money transfers to the accounts of offshore foreign companies allegedly for the purpose of paying for goods or services without customs border crossing constitute another widespread type of fictitious deals, Ignatyev said.

"The real purpose of such operations is to pay for 'gray' imports, smuggle drugs, offer bribes, etc.," Ignatyev said, adding that such operations are carried out with the involvement of "shell" companies.

Offshore money transfer transactions are estimated at $3-4 billion a month, the country's chief banker said.

The Central Bank of Russia insists on its right to withdraw licenses from banks for the violation of the law on money laundering, Ignatyev said.

The CBR chairman made this statement following a proposal by some deputies to deprive the country's chief bank of the right to revoke banking licenses for violations on money laundering.

Since early 2005, the CBR has revoked licenses from 70 banks, or 6% of the total number of Russia's banks, for violations on money laundering, the chief banker said.

The Central Bank of Russia is also seeking to empower banks to deny dubious clients the right to open accounts, Ignatyev said.

"This requirement corresponds to the recommendations of the FATF [Financial Action Task Force]," Ignatyev said.


Source: Russia loses $19-30 bln a year from fictitious deals - CBR

Okay, so obviously the Head of the CBR has a vested interest to jealously guard their powers, but even if you use the $19 billion number which is at the lower end of their range you have a lot of money from base metals, oil & gas that is not 'necessarily' flowing into productive assets or projects in Russia to improve its infrastructure and generate future income streams.

Some of it is. Through round tripping whereby the money is parked offshore and then reinvested back into Russia, but under a new legal identity. But some of it goes to buy luxury yachts, which certainly benefits someone, but not Russia or its people.

Also, by definition these flows are secret, so pinning down the exact amounts is mostly speculation, but generally I would hazard a guess that the flows are under-estimated as even in supposedly transparent economies like Italy, for example, there is a lot of gray economy that is unofficial and under the radar screen. Why should a developing market economy like Russia be more transparent?

Other emerging markets that benefit from high base metal, commodity and energy prices are less transparent and more corrupt. Those receipts are falling through the cracks largely untracked. In otherwords they are more vulnerable to a slowdown in the world economy and lower export prices because unlike Norway, for example, they are not building-up a financial cushion for a rainy day.

Just something else to keep me awake at night. I was really hoping 'nothing' would happen until at least Q207? Dear God, please give one or two more months!
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby cube » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 05:05:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '.')..you have a lot of money from base metals, oil & gas that is not 'necessarily' flowing into productive assets or projects in Russia to improve its infrastructure and generate future income streams.
...
Bad loans are made during good times. - :-D

As for Dubai...that's a real estate bubble that will eventually pop. I've said that before on this board skyscrapercity and woah do some people get sensitive. There was this one guy in particular who vehemently argued that Dubai has a shortage of skyscrapers! The person actually lives in Dubai so "supposedly" he has a more accurate view.

I've noticed that sometimes the last people to know are the ones standing in front of the line. Is it safe to assume that real estate agents were/are the last ones to finally figure out that we're in a housing market slow down? :P

Getting back to oil......I didn't like the article that tried to tie oil and stocks together. The central theme seems to be "be happy don't worry". I have this superstitious theory that major top reversal points are quite often accompanied by a massive flood of "good news". :roll:
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 05:40:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '.')..you have a lot of money from base metals, oil & gas that is not 'necessarily' flowing into productive assets or projects in Russia to improve its infrastructure and generate future income streams.
...
Bad loans are made during good times. - :-D

As for Dubai...that's a real estate bubble that will eventually pop. I've said that before on this board skyscrapercity and woah do some people get sensitive. There was this one guy in particular who vehemently argued that Dubai has a shortage of skyscrapers! The person actually lives in Dubai so "supposedly" he has a more accurate view.

I've noticed that sometimes the last people to know are the ones standing in front of the line. Is it safe to assume that real estate agents were/are the last ones to finally figure out that we're in a housing market slow down? :P

Getting back to oil......I didn't like the article that tried to tie oil and stocks together. The central theme seems to be "be happy don't worry". I have this superstitious theory that major top reversal points are quite often accompanied by a massive flood of "good news". :roll:



Well, for some reason I am bleeding from both ends at the moment. One, oil company stocks are taking a hit with the broader market sell-off. And two, oil prices are up. Yesterday, as a knee-jerk reaction I sold crude when Asia started tanking because heating oil took a major dump. There was some follow through selling, but then oil closed higher on the back of Iran. I sold some more near the top and was able to take that back at a profit. But I am still short my intitial sale. But it hurts when oil stocks go one direction and 'my hedge' goes another. So much for basis trading! ; - )

May as well post the inventory forecasts here in case I get too busy later. You know, making margin calls and putting out fires!

Crude f/c +1.9 +2.0 mio bbls from 327.6 mio bbls
Distillates f/c -2.6 -2.8 mio bbls from 128.3 mio bbls
Gasoline f/c -1.5 -1.8 mio bbls from 222.1 mio bbls
Refinery Runs 85.4%


So net/net a slight draw, but less than previous weeks. Never the less the market has also been surprised with larger draws than expected in the past few weeks. And the technical picture is still bullish (so why am I short you ask? to hedge my oil stocks that are going down....)!

China used 9% of the world's crude in 2006 or 7.1 mbpd. Their use is expected to rise to 9.4 mbpd by 2011 or 32% according to the IEA. The Shanghai stock market was severely over-bought. This 'correction' may be over due and even healthy as the PBOC tightens reserve requirements to drain liquidity and curb excessive speculation. The fundamentals for China look good.

However, when the global imbalances become so strained the first crack in the dam is never a good reason to be complacent just because it holds the first time.

Read an article by Brad Setser on RGE Monitor about the PBOC using swaps to reduce its foreign exchange reserves. On the surface this makes sense. They sell and buy their USD for CNY with Chinese commercial banks that sell and buy CNY for USD at favorable rates. Then the PBOC has to buy fewer low yielding USTs. Except this simply means they are passing along that risk to the commercial banks. They are not reducing anything! Just passing the risk along down the line. Maybe those banks use those US dollars to make dodgy property loans? Or buy lower grade US corporate debt? And it becomes even less transparent.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')ocus of the day – 28 February 2007

GEM Strategy: What’s next? – Michael Hartnett

Chinese equity weakness collaborated with BoJ tightening, higher oil prices and sub-prime mortgage contagion fears to cause a huge decline in EM equities today.

The good news is EM less overbought and flows/sentiment less exuberant today than before 26% sell-off last May. And the macro backdrop will remain positive so long as EM yields remain low, in our view. Link to full report: http://rsch1.ml.com/9093/24013/ds/63687929.PDF

Banking in the BRICs: Banking in the emerging new world order - Paul Tucker, Alistair Scarff, Valerie Fry

Detailed study of the BRICs and beyond provides a compelling case for structural growth in BRIC banking. Our bullish view on Russia means a high conviction case for Sberbank, while we are also very positive on Brazil's Itau and India's ICICI Bank. Link to full report: http://rsch1.ml.com/9093/24013/ds/07193040.PDF

source: ML, February 28th, 2007

Gotta hop now. Crude is lower again. Cheers.

p.s. Sberbank is over-priced. ML is just trying to sell one more IPO before the taps are turned off.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby Madpaddy » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 06:11:00

My poor baby Tullow Oil has fallen by about 15% in the last 2 days despite the rise in oil prices. Luckily I sold 25% of my holdings last week.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 06:26:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', 'M')y poor baby Tullow Oil has fallen by about 15% in the last 2 days despite the rise in oil prices. Luckily I sold 25% of my holdings last week.


yes, I know that sinking feeling.... but they're investments, right? ; - )


some more color commentary from Standard Bank on yesterday's events. the analysts must have been up ALL night last night to churn all these reports out?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here are a number of possible explanations for this seemingly out-of-line behaviour of some African currencies, including:

Underdeveloped financial markets.

With the majority of African financial markets in their infancy, there are less investment opportunities for foreigners. Therefore trends in global capital flows are less influencial in these markets and, by implication, these currencies;

Absence of significant portfolio flows.

African economies generally receive less portfolio inflows than their other emerging market counterparts. This is evident in the small exposure of global funds to Africa in general There is therefore less urgency to exit marginal African exposures. This, combined with the low foreign participation in these markets, implies that at times of global risk aversion there are less outflows; and

Low levels of liquidity.

Liquidity levels are generally low in the lesser developed African financial markets, which could make it difficult for investors to immediately exit their exposures to these currencies. This means that reaction to global repositioning may occur with a time lag.
While most African financial markets have been isolated from major global trends in the past due to the factors listed above, things are changing. With increased focus on domestic financial market development by African governments against a backdrop of greater interest in African investments by global investors, African markets and currencies will no longer be able to escape what happens in the rest of the world.

Source: Bloomberg, Reuters, Standard Bank Group
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 12:31:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'U')PDATE: trades I would recommend, but not for the faint of heart.

1. Buy wheat. Sell corn. Historically, corn rarely trades for long at a premium to wheat. Look for ethanol margins to go negative first.

2. Buy yen. Sell euros. The specs are huge yen shorts. Divergence is large on COTS. Look for that to correct. Perhaps after the next G7/G8 meeting.



Nice to see both those trades now coming to fruition. Corn is dropping more than wheat as that spread widens out to 52-54 cents per bushel wheat over corn.

And some of the yen carry trade becomes undone. Especially against the smaller, exotic currency crosses. I perhaps over-estimated yen weakness viz a vie the euro. It looks more like the high yielders, not necessarily the US dollar, that are getting punished, first.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')SD/JPY’s 2.19% fall, understandably enough, captured a great deal of the attention yesterday given that this was the pair’s 6th largest daily decline this decade, dwarfing the somewhat anaemic 0.44% rally seen in EUR/USD. However, it is on the JPY crosses that the really interesting story emerged. GBP/JPY, for example, managed to stage its largest daily decline since May 2001, losing a substantial 2.27% before making a modest (0.4%) recovery overnight. AUD/JPY and NZD/JPY were even more extreme, losing 2.89% (the largest drop since 2002) and 3.72% (the largest daily move we have a record of) respectively. ZAR/JPY collapsed by 4.46% (the largest decline since early 2004) while HUF/JPY dropped a slightly more modest 3.48%. In short then yesterday was not about the USD at all but rather about the use of the JPY as a funding currency to invest in a variety of high yielding (and, in some cases, relatively illiquid) currencies and what happens to these trades when risk appetite declines.

source: Simon Derrick/RGE Monitor
The story changes ... is volatility back?


Nothing bearish about today's DOE inventory numbers, so I am a bit perlexed about the market's take on them. No rally that is. Actually, I am not. The WTI was already trading at year to date highs last night. And along with housing starts down 16.6% MoM and down 13.2% YoY are indicating a slowing US economy. That and a Chicago Purchasing Manager's Survey of 47.9%. Anything under 50% is considered a contraction. A slowing economy may not need as much juice, but you would not guess that from the demand side.

Here is a summary.

Crude +1.4 mio bbls to 329 mio bbls
Gasoline -1.9 mio bbls to 220.3 mio bbls
Distillates -3.8 mio bbls to 124.5 mio bbls
Heating Oil -1.8 mio bbls to 44.9 mio


Net a drawdown of -6.1 mio bbls vs. a f/c of -1.1 mio bbls

The 4th or 5th week in a row that analysts have been caught with larger drawdowns than expected. This week ONLY 6X vs. last week's 8X!

Refinery use 86% up slightly.

Crude imports -220k to 9.52 mbpd
Product imports -89k to 3.43 mbpd


Both well below their peaks that we saw last year.

Gasoline demand +3.6% yoy to 9.13 mbpd
Distillate demand +9.7% yoy to 4.70 mbpd
Total demand +7.5% yoy to 21.80 mbpd


Again, no slow down in demand. I guess gasoline is so cheap now that it is counter productive to save it? I have to laugh at another thread where Leonardo DiCaprio is held-up as a model of conservation because he ONLY has three Priuses. I mean, gee, ain't that really cutting to the bone, eh? No energy was used to make those cars either! ; - ))

Well, I took back my short too early. I should have held onto it longer. Okay, but live to play another day! I took some profits on some stocks I did not like in any case. Take some money off the table. Ride it out with the rest. And will use that money to invest if prices go down further. Have a good evening and speak to you tomorrow. Cheers.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby buzzard » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 12:39:37

I look at what the market calls fundamentals and I can see where one might justify something on the order of $45/ b. ON the other hand, when I look at all of the other things which could effect the price and probably will, then I get a totally different picture. So $80 it is. That may be too low. But I'm not much of a gambler. I have already liquidated everything and hold only land, silver and cash. No paper anything.

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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby MrBill » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 12:43:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('buzzard', 'I') look at what the market calls fundamentals and I can see where one might justify something on the order of $45/ b. ON the other hand, when I look at all of the other things which could effect the price and probably will, then I get a totally different picture. So $80 it is. That may be too low. But I'm not much of a gambler. I have already liquidated everything and hold only land, silver and cash. No paper anything.

BUZ

I'm confused. Isn't this where the party was supposed to be?


Stayed tuned, Buz, as you'll be light years ahead of the party as Trader's Corner takes you to infinitey and beyond! ; - )
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby JustWatch » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 19:49:05

I know this may sound overly simplistic, and many here might blow it out of the water very quickly, but I’ll ask it anyway.
Could the oil price, which has been rising for the last few years, be connected to the liquidity that has been rising worldwide the last few years? What I mean is, could more money be flowing out of central banks in order to maintain equilibrium with the rising oil price? The oil price is around $60, but is it just to maintain the status quo with excess cash floating around? And vice-versa?
It just seems to me that this could be all that is happening, and will continue until the crude supply actually gets tighter beyond equilibrium with demand. Could the money supply be trying to play catch-up with rising oil costs? Could the demand for money be rising along with the price of oil? Could it be that interest rates haven’t been rising much yet simply being because the excess money is cycling back into bonds?

If not, then why haven’t the higher oil prices been more difficult to manage? Maybe wages aren’t rising fast enough to keep up with it everywhere, but will start to do this soon? I have the feeling that wage pressure will start to increase in the US soon, but I may be wrong about this as well.
I get these ideas from my understanding that “money=energy.” Since oil is energy, and equivalent to the labor that humans must do in order to earn wages. So money is a “store of energy” or at least that’s what we hope it to be if we put currency under our mattress!
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Re: Trader's Corner 2007

Postby drew » Wed 28 Feb 2007, 21:53:49

Yes liquidity has something to do with oil prices, namely excess liquidity in the form of US dollars. The dollar has declined significantly in relation to most of the world's currencies and acccordingly the price of oil has risen as it is priced in dollars. Some people have said that oil keeps the value of the dollar artificially high. These same folks say that trading in oil using another currency such as the euro would harm the us dollar greatly.

I would say that prices have already had a negative effect on the economies of the world. I too am surprised at how easily things seem to keep trucking along, for the most part. I do believe that the correction of yesterday was just a harbinger of thing to come in the next 12 months. Stock markets cant continue climbing for ever, nor can borrowers keep sinking further into the hole.

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