[Bas]

Oil_rocks, you are not funded by exxon by any chance, are you?

[TonyPrep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', 'D')on't misquote me tonyprep, I never said i don't like predictions.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

So as a final calculation, i expect to see us hit our peak oil crisis in about 400 years and finally run out of oil in about 730 years. +- 100 years.


The USGS predicted US peak at around 2100. It happened in 1970.

These silly wild numbers have been banded about about for years, and they've been wrong for years.

[Chuckmak]

It's clear you don't have our views, oil_sh*t, so, since you don't, why bother posting here? this is peakoil.com where we talk about the ramifications of, you guessed it, peak oil. we believe what we believe, you believe what you believe...kinda like oil and water. they don't mix. you're gonna state your case until you're blue in the face. we're gonna state our case until we're blue in the face. so why continue? go to some other site where the people believe your views on this subject.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', 'H')ave you ever wondered why diamonds are not in a shortage even though everyone loves them and there are relatively few of them in the ground?

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd clueless, I understand where you get your ideas from, but you simply don't understand the basics of supply & demand economics. Have you ever wondered why diamonds are not in a shortage even though everyone loves them and there are relatively few of them in the ground?

[Ingenuity_Gap]

Oh, were are the glorious days of JohnDenver and Lorenzo, when we could had at least a semi-intelligent, semi-decent conversation about the flaws in the Peak Oil theory?

Aren't you scared guys of the recent drop in knowledge and IQ of the latest detractors like oil_rocks?

If this is the best they can send out to counter us, the world is in for a rough ride, considering 50% of the population is even dumber.

oil_rocks, go back to the drawing board, and after you thoroughly document yourself about the PO theory, meaning you read at least a few of the relevant books, newspaper articles and you listen to what some smart key people related to the oil industry, geology and economics have to say, come back and tell us what you think.

So far you made a fool of yourself, showing little understanding of the scientific principle, huge logic flaws, totally fragmented knowledge about the subject and last but not least an utterly emotional worldview based on grossly misplaced faith in a future technological advancement that may never come.

As you can see I'm unable to tolerate your crass ignorance and total lack of understanding of basic scientific principles and for that reason I greatly admire the robust patience that some fellow peak oilers like TonyPrep showed you.

You cast a great deal of shame on the software developer's guild by displaying such inferior intellectual standards.

Your only pitty excuse would be if your age would not exceed 12.

[clueless]

duplicate post.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd clueless, I understand where you get your ideas from, but you simply don't understand the basics of supply & demand economics. Have you ever wondered why diamonds are not in a shortage even though everyone loves them and there are relatively few of them in the ground?

[oil_rocks]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Battle_Scarred_Galactico', 'T')he USGS predicted US peak at around 2100. It happened in 1970.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')eaked in 1970? Is that a fact? we are about to tap into new deposits in the gulf, plus we are aware of massive new deposits off the pacific coast and in the artic refuge. Its quite possible future production could far exceed that of 1970. It goes to prove my point that early predictions are not always correct as new discoveries are made.

[Chuckmak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Battle_Scarred_Galactico', 'T')he USGS predicted US peak at around 2100. It happened in 1970.

[Chuckmak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ingenuity_Gap', 'O')ilrocks too will drift away and leave us with nothing but bone fragments, tuffs of fur, and bits of hide.

[Ingenuity_Gap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ingenuity_Gap', 'O')h, were are the glorious days of JohnDenver and Lorenzo, when we could had at least a semi-intelligent, semi-decent conversation about the flaws in the Peak Oil theory?

[TonyPrep]

oil_rocks,

I think you may find more people drifting away from this discussion. You apparently yearn for more science in the peak oil debate but present none yourself. Your latest comment about the US potentially producing more than they did in 1970 illustrates the entire basis of your position - hope. You seem to have many beliefs about peak oil, and hardly a single solid fact to base them on. And just to top it off, you see demand and production continuing to rise and yet see prices rocketing to suppress demand. So you don't even have your own story straight.

Look, oil_rocks, a peaking of available energy (particularly in transportation) is a scary thing. A peaking of finite resources is scary. It is obvious that most people, including yourself, would not want that to happen. But we do live on a finite planet, so peaking of all limited resources is a certainty. If there is an unbroken line of descendants, from you, then it's inevitable that some of them will face a collapsing society. I know you don't want it to happen to you, but it is entirely possible.

It should be abundantly clear to you that you have convinced no-one and not even altered anyone's opinion a fraction. People round here are fairly clued up on the facts surrounding peak oil, so your argument must be weak indeed. Try doing more research and some real calculations, before trying again.

[oil_rocks]

well i'm just trying to help you guys out. I provided a clear version of the peak oil crisis theory that i'm sure 90% of you sign on to (which shows us running out of oil in about 15 years). But every year that goes by you guys end up scratching your heads and saying, "I don't understand it. Our projections all show that we should have hit the peak by now but it just never seems to happen". Well, I have shown many reasons for why we have not hit the peak yet and why we will not be hitting it any time in the next 20 years. Its just meant to be a helpful service and allow you guys to get some much needed sleep at night. a simply 'thank you' would be appeciated.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')hich shows us running out of oil in about 15 years