Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

by **dinopello** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 17:17:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', 'w')ell i'm just trying to help you guys out. I provided a clear version of the peak oil crisis theory that i'm sure 90% of you sign on to (which shows us running out of oil in about 15 years).

by **Bas** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 17:17:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')hich shows us running out of oil in about 15 years

by **Ingenuity_Gap** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 17:57:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', 'w')ell i'm just trying to help you guys out. I provided a clear version of the peak oil crisis theory that i'm sure 90% of you sign on to (which shows us running out of oil in about 15 years). But every year that goes by you guys end up scratching your heads and saying, "I don't understand it. Our projections all show that we should have hit the peak by now but it just never seems to happen". Well, I have shown many reasons for why we have not hit the peak yet and why we will not be hitting it any time in the next 20 years. Its just meant to be a helpful service and allow you guys to get some much needed sleep at night. a simply 'thank you' would be appeciated.

by **clueless** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 18:00:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')hich shows us running out of oil in about 15 years

by **Ingenuity_Gap** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 18:01:22

What's going on? Are we running out of debunkers?

Peak Debunkers already?

by **Bas** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 18:03:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')hich shows us running out of oil in about 15 years

by **Ingenuity_Gap** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 18:07:52

What's going on? Are we running out of debunkers?

Peak Debunkers already?

by **dinopello** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 18:09:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', '
')
let me clarify...But we will run out of recoverable oil.

But I am sure Oil_rocks has concocted a thoery that by then we will "find" a way to recover it.

by **TonyPrep** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 18:11:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil_rocks', 'w')ell i'm just trying to help you guys out. I provided a clear version of the peak oil crisis theory that i'm sure 90% of you sign on to (which shows us running out of oil in about 15 years). But every year that goes by you guys end up scratching your heads and saying, "I don't understand it. Our projections all show that we should have hit the peak by now but it just never seems to happen". Well, I have shown many reasons for why we have not hit the peak yet and why we will not be hitting it any time in the next 20 years. Its just meant to be a helpful service and allow you guys to get some much needed sleep at night. a simply 'thank you' would be appeciated.

by **mekrob** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 18:12:04

Twenty pages have gone by. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. This idiot will never learn about peak oil because he doesn't want to learn about it. You are wasting your time trying to educate fools like these.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')od has set a ... covering over their eyes, and there [will be] a great punishment for them.

by **clueless** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 18:46:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ome day, oil_rocks may actually be oil. How ironic. I hope if I become oil, I will be made into a lacquer to be applied to a future musical instrument or nice piece of furniture (at least).

by **oil_rocks** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 20:45:55

hey, i'm on your side! i agree we are running out of oil, but i am trying to provide you with some wisdom as to the more accurate time frame so that you don't run around looking foolish, claiming that civilization is going to come to an end in the next few years. however, if my goal is to prevent you all from looking foolish, I must confess that I have been failing misserably!

my point from the beginning has been that there are many factors that the conventional peak oil crisis theory does not take into account which is going to push the peak date back further than most people expect. Now some people may be taking a few or even some of these factors into account, but that vast mejority of people do not. and they just dismiss it as "hopeful thinking" rather than trying to say, "well to what degree will technologies play a role in our long term forcasting?" I think its more intelegent to ask that question and perhaps argue that they will play a very limited role. but to dismiss the entire debate as hopeful wishing is to miss the point and be off the mark of forcasting.

So the bottom line is these things are factors whether small or large we can argue that, but until i see a peak oil crisis theory that includes all of these factors then i wil continue to say that the current models ARE NOT accurate.
1) New deposit discoveries
2) New technology for drilling
3) New technology for energy (ethanol, potential others)
4) Future price increases
5) Society's desire to inovate
6) Society's ability to adapt
7) Conservation potentials

once again, i am not asserting that oil will last forever. I am merely questioning whether the current peak oil crisis has taken into account all of the variables. and clearly it has not.

by **clueless** » Tue 13 Feb 2007, 20:58:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')) New deposit discoveries
2) New technology for drilling
3) New technology for energy (ethanol, potential others)
4) Future price increases
5) Society's desire to inovate
6) Society's ability to adapt
7) Conservation potentials

by **oil_rocks** » Wed 14 Feb 2007, 15:13:59

Here is a quiz you guys can take to demonstrate the flaws of peak oil crisis theory:

1) How many new deposits will be found in the future?
a) None
b) Some, at a rate consistant with the past 10 years
c) infinate new deposits will be found

2) How many new drilling technologies will be developed?
a) None
b) Some, history has shown this to be true
c) infinate new technologies will be developed

3) How much oil demand will ethanol replace?
a) None, not even 1 drop
b) Likely some cars will start running on ethanol
c) 100% replacement

4) Will a new yet undiscovered fuel ever be found?
a) No
b) maybe
c) Yes

5) What will happen to oil use if the price spikes?
a) Nothing, demand will always go up
b) If the price spikes, demand will go down
c) people will just stop using oil altogether

Ok, check your answers. If you answered "b" to every question, you get 100%! good job. Most of you probably picked "a" to most or every question, which means your beliefs are based on emtion and not real science. sorry.

And just to let you know, no one picked answer "c" to any questions even though peak oil people believe that anyone who disagrees with them must believe all the "c" answers. That is part of the problem with the peak oil belief system is that you believe all other people are trolls and idiots who blindly belive in non-sense. but in reality, people like me believe in the "b' answers. all of which are not factored into any peak oil crisis theories.

this has only been a test. if this had been a real emergency you would have been instructed to burn SUV's and run around telling people to store bottled water and learn how to farm.

Thank you for taking this test. Let me know how you guys did on the test. i got all 5 right.

by **UncoveringTruths** » Wed 14 Feb 2007, 15:38:42

My comments added in italics

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')) How many new deposits will be found in the future?
a) None
b) Some, at a rate consistant with the past 10 years The number of discoveries has fallen dramatically in recent years.
c) infinate new deposits will be found

2) How many new drilling technologies will be developed?
a) None
b) Some, history has shown this to be true But creates a cliff when production ultimately declines in a field
c) infinate new technologies will be developed

3) How much oil demand will ethanol replace?
a) None, not even 1 drop
b) Likely some cars will start running on ethanol however to this day I have not seen an Ethanol pump in my neck of the woods but my car will run on it.
c) 100% replacement

4) Will a new yet undiscovered fuel ever be found?
a) No
b) maybe But not in time to mitigate Peak Oil
c) Yes

5) What will happen to oil use if the price spikes?
a) Nothing, demand will always go up
b) If the price spikes, demand will go down and the economy will falter rinse and repeat
c) people will just stop using oil altogether

by **UncoveringTruths** » Wed 14 Feb 2007, 15:58:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')) How many new deposits will be found in the future?
a) None
b) Some, at a rate consistant with the past 10 years
c) infinate new deposits will be found

by **clueless** » Wed 14 Feb 2007, 16:09:38

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: Re: Sorry, No such thing as Peak Oil

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ere is a quiz you guys can take to demonstrate the flaws of peak oil crisis theory:

1) How many new deposits will be found in the future?
a) None
b) Some, at a rate consistant with the past 10 years
c) infinate new deposits will be found

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