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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Thu 01 Feb 2007, 12:10:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'O')MG! dude get a new fridge.... NLP involves hypnosis so unless you have been abducted and hypnotized or conditioned you can't be "under the influence of NLP".
Its a form of brain washing and usually has to involve some willingness on your part... Its still really invalid scientifically... see someone... really... maybe an appliance repairman.


<sigh> I give up.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby Falconoffury » Mon 05 Feb 2007, 03:03:18

Eric, you seem very comfortable explaining your problems, but you haven't said anything about trying to stop these sounds.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Mon 05 Feb 2007, 08:43:48

There is no mind control device. I can say this with 100% certainity!

Now an implanted chip to keep track of you is a while nother ball of wax.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby gg3 » Mon 05 Feb 2007, 10:26:42

Eric, fridges click and clack routinely: the thermostat contacts and the relay that operates the compressor, and the motor-start circuit that operates whenever the compressor motor starts up. No one is attempting to screw around with your head. To put it bluntly, the three-letter agencies don't give a flying shit about some schmuck on SSI.

And what you said about "them" making your sinuses make noises ("...they can make these noises come from my sinuses too..."), and feeling surges of electricity through your body while trying to sleep, and spending hours lying in bed in a state of rage, proves conclusively my point below:

What you're describing sounds like ideas of reference and paranoid ideation, which are diagnostic for schizophrenia. You already said you were diagnosed for autism, which is in the spectrum of related illnesses, and the condition was/is severe enough to take you out of the workforce and put you on permanent disability.

I would seriously suggest getting to a psychiatrist immediately and dealing with this before it gets worse.

If you prefer a low-tech approach, switch to a "health food" diet that is heavy on protein and vegetablese, with little to no sugars or simple starches, no coffee, tea, soft drinks, or chocolate, and also start taking vitamin B-complex and vitamin C in large doses: B-complex 50 or 100, C 500 or 1000, one capsule of each with each meal and one of each before bedtime. Keep track of your diet and your mood to see if there are any latent food sensitivities, and take the suspected items out of your diet. Get at least a moderate amount of exercise: a half hour of walking per day will do for starters. And be sure to get adequate sleep every night.

Yes, I'm serious. And you should take it seriously.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby NEOPO » Mon 05 Feb 2007, 11:50:45

My first post out of exile!
Uhmmm wow?
Eric - I do declare that you referred to me as "Insane" and "idiot" on more then one occassion....yet I will not go there even if the metal is hot and my anvil raised and ready to strike 8)

IMHO its all very possible yet to anyone who is not experiencing it rather hard to believe AND it is also possible that you are simply paranoid.
With beliefs and stories like these my only suggestion is for you to be less critical of others who have beliefs outside of your imagination range.
I would seek help yet I firmly believe that not everyone can be "cured".
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby LaLaLand » Mon 05 Feb 2007, 13:21:49

This web forum becomes more conspiratorial by the day...

Government mandated implanted chips? Yea right! There will always be enough morons who will voluntarily yield to this sort of power usurpation. You know what... GOOD. If some people are foolish enough to let another control them, the rest of us are obviously better off if the flock is watched over by big brother. Chips in driver's licenses or other mandated public "privilege" documentation designed to control movements? I made a point to put my drivers license in the microwave after I received it from the DMV. Whatever might have be in there is probably dysfunctional now. Cell phones? Open it up and look for solid state devices that don't belong in there. Most brands and their models have their circuitry published on the internet somewhere. The basement nerds need to entertain themselves somehow, right?

I'd never let anyone put a chip in me. I read the entire medical documentation my provider gives to me prior to medical services in order to protect myself from covert implantation via shots, scrapes, or oral tests.

Besides, if verifiable word got out that business entities or the government did something like this, there would be a huge uproar. The MSM wouldn't expose it of course, but everyone else and their mother would. Enough people have seen propaganda that involves power abuse and would not yield to this sort of crap.

I'm sure some private company would recognize the profit potential in detecting covert chips on the person anyway. I can see the advertisements in my head now: "Bad credit, bad health, haven't paid taxes in years... THIS DEVICE DETECTS IMPLANTED TRACKING CHIPS!" $19.95 plus shipping.

On top of all of this, the Federal government is on the verge of bankruptcy. Exactly how would they implement this master conspiracy? The original poster is screwing around pushing conspiracy nuts buttons in order to gather material for the AM radio/TV authoritarian parrots.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby blukatzen » Mon 05 Feb 2007, 13:27:42

Eric,

A few weeks ago I had heard Dr. Nick Begich on a radio show, and he was being interviewed on the subject matter of "mind control". There are a number of good articles on the matter at his website, which is www.earthpulse.com . Look at the articles on the side where it says "mind control". He also has written extensively on project HAARP, and weather modification, and electronic "smog", and the problem with cancers emanating from intense cellphone useage. (which is what I am interested in.)

There are some interesting articles of things that were done under the old Soviet regime in mind control, and it may be plausible that some of this..in theory..could be true, however, of course, *I* certainly am no expert.

I hope that there is some way that you could obtain some relief from your misery, and I feel for you. Maybe you could write to him, for more information on your particular situation, he may have some answers.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Mon 05 Feb 2007, 14:12:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MacG', 'Y')ea. To the unreserved joy of every criminal worth his weight in crowbars. Both RFID and biometrics have rather severe limitations when it comes to security, and they are extremely vulnerable to hacking.


I think the assertion that any of this has much to do with security is laughable. Terrorists can't get driver's licenses? Of course they can. All the terrorists in recent memory that have blown up federal buildings have had Driver's licenses and have done it from outside the building. Somehow, though, showing the super duper Real-ID microchipped driver's license is an assurance that you won't blow the building?

In reality this has nothing to do with security and everything with control. In fact, it's not really even very useful for control. The government already collects far more information about its subjects than it is able to effectively parse. They have mountains of data but are incredibly inefficient at distilling out the bits that are usefull to them. For example, they have spy satelites that are probably able to identify a face and follow you as you move. Does that mean the government is following your every move? Not unless you are Ossama and probably not even then. The reality is that what this is mostly about is not actual control, but the illusion of control. They probably aren't watching you at any given moment, but they could be. Because they could be watching, it makes everyone much more likely to stay congenially in line and not rock the boat. It's very much the panopticon concept. Derek Jensen talks about it at length in Welcome to the Machine.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby dukey » Mon 05 Feb 2007, 14:33:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ll the terrorists in recent memory that have blown up federal buildings have had Driver's licenses and have done it from outside the building.


You mean the oklahoma city bombing incident ? The evidence strongly suggests the government did that one.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby LaLaLand » Mon 05 Feb 2007, 14:53:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'T')he reality is that what this is mostly about is not actual control, but the illusion of control. They probably aren't watching you at any given moment, but they could be. Because they could be watching, it makes everyone much more likely to stay congenially in line and not rock the boat.


Bingo! The game of perception management. It's a lot cheaper for the government to claim it wants to watch you rather than actually watching you while absorbing some of the losses it incurs due to losing track of some people/entities that might be worth watching. A lot of parents use this very tactic when engaging the impressionable young minds of their children. Just subject the little ones to "What if someone catches you?" talking points. This kind of physiological training transcends culture and goes back thousands of years. Some people on this site take George Orwell far too seriously.

Population control? In the US 'childern are a right guaranteed by God' A? What a joke. The day the government stops subsidizing agro-business is the day I will truly believe political/economic elites want western populations to shrink. Want to reduce the growth of population? Stop growing so much god damn food for the sheep to eat!
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Mon 05 Feb 2007, 15:16:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ll the terrorists in recent memory that have blown up federal buildings have had Driver's licenses and have done it from outside the building.


You mean the oklahoma city bombing incident ? The evidence strongly suggests the government did that one.

The pentagon would be the other federally owned building that was recently attacked. My point is not to rekindle the whole false-flag or not arguement. Either way, it's hard to argue that stricter driver's licensing requirements or tighter surveilance of the population would have changed much.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby max_power29 » Tue 06 Feb 2007, 04:54:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '
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In reality this has nothing to do with security and everything with control. In fact, it's not really even very useful for control. The government already collects far more information about its subjects than it is able to effectively parse. They have mountains of data but are incredibly inefficient at distilling out the bits that are usefull to them. For example, they have spy satelites that are probably able to identify a face and follow you as you move. Does that mean the government is following your every move? Not unless you are Ossama and probably not even then. The reality is that what this is mostly about is not actual control, but the illusion of control. They probably aren't watching you at any given moment, but they could be. Because they could be watching, it makes everyone much more likely to stay congenially in line and not rock the boat. It's very much the panopticon concept. Derek Jensen talks about it at length in Welcome to the Machine.


Agreed, RFID chips and all the obsession with I.D is about mind kontrol. So are things like smoking bans and gun kontrol.

Smoking bans=mind kontrolling on a level of peoples personal habits. Nobody except the grassroots smoking ban, nazi, patsies gives a crap about your health. If they did we would have a decent health care system.

Political correctness= mind kontrol

Gun kontrol= mind kontrol

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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby max_power29 » Tue 06 Feb 2007, 05:03:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LaLaLand', '
')I'd never let anyone put a chip in me.


What if you could not buy anything without it, especially food.?
What if you refused you got put on the list of people for rounding up for the Halliburton KBR/detention camps for some GITMO style torture?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LaLaLand', '
')There would be a huge uproar. The MSM wouldn't expose it of course, but everyone else and their mother would. Enough people have seen propaganda that involves power abuse and would not yield to this sort of crap.


Most americans are now near retarded. They are not going to uproar about anything important.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LaLaLand', '
')On top of all of this, the Federal government is on the verge of bankruptcy. Exactly how would they implement this master conspiracy?.


The same way they are going to pay for all the shiny new F-22s, with fiat Federal reserve notes. Just fire up the printing presses or banking computers for a minute and voila, its paid for.

Also, the title of this thread says they WANT to chip you.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby LaLaLand » Tue 06 Feb 2007, 10:58:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('max_power29', 'W')hat if


I'll be more than happy to argue about current socio/economic trends that are verifiable. I will not venture into speculative conspiracies sensationalizing master classes enslaving millions of people. Yea, could history repeat the Nazi nightmare? Maybe.

It's not going to happen in North America or Europe any time soon, the concept of the open society forbids it. There are simply to many: guns, decentralized skill sets amongst the population, localized "free trade" areas, decentralized gardening/farming trends, open communication systems, attainable wealth, a powerful individualistic will etc... in order for a large scale totalitarian nightmare to occur throughout North America.

Chips for food? Aint gonna happen in my town. Our food distribution system is as decentralized as it gets. Besides, our local government would unanimously say NO!

Besides... Even if a nightmare was visibly evolving. Bye! People like me would just abandon fake "social safety nets" and take off for: Brazil, Finland, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Croatia, Italy, Nepal... you name it!
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby greenworm » Tue 06 Feb 2007, 16:01:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ea, could history repeat the Nazi nightmare?


I believe the nightmare started in the US with Rockefeller and the eugenics programs that were started in California.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby ontic_ideality » Thu 08 Feb 2007, 18:18:32

I am replying to eric b's post.

Your story of being implanted nasally is interesting to say the least.

The links you provide I am well familiar with.

In support of evidence that would argue for the UFO abductees actually being targets and victims of NSA CIA secret operations, see this link:

http://freedomdomain.com/ufo/controllers.html

Matrin Cannon presents some very good information.

I am a target of covert harassment. I have written blogs on my experiences. It is very real.

I would agree with the words in eric's statement, as to why these very secretive harassments occure.

I believe I have nasal implants, alfactory alterations. I have erased my blogs regarding this aspect of my life, but none the less, it is real.

To quote Cannon:

"Naeslund's implant was originally placed through his NASAL CAVITY. He first
realized that something terrible had happened to him after an experience of
missing time, followed by an INEXPLICABLE NOSEBLEED.

This detail will be instantly familiar to anyone who has studied abductions; "

It is a shame that media is becoming more centralized.


Olfactory Alteration and Psychological Terror (covert harassment ...Moral harassment, psychological violence, ongoing covert chemical perpetration. ... in nasal passages can also have an effect on olfactory sensory: ...

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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby uncarve_db_lock » Fri 09 Feb 2007, 00:56:17

I clicked on the Washington Post article at the beginning of the thread, Mind Games, and started to read and then realized what was missing, some fine music from the digital jukebox. Normally when listening to music, I like to let the random generator in the program lead the way, with over 3,500 songs to choose from, its a bit like the never ending mix tape. Anyways, started up iTunes and hit play, out of all the songs that could have been randomly chosen, John Lennons, "Mind Games" came on....(cue spooky music)....coincidence??
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby uncarve_db_lock » Fri 09 Feb 2007, 00:57:51

..oh and the Washington Post article was interesting, never really gave much thought to mind control like that before, I'm more into the Jedi redneck hippie voodoo.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby username » Fri 09 Feb 2007, 03:05:22

Here's something interesting -- plans to put RFID chips inside Euros.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/itmanagement/0, ... 074,00.htm
I see this as way more likely than RFID implants in the near future because it's completely invisible to the public. One day the Federal Reserve could start putting it in Fed notes and not many people would even care because, to them, the money is still the same!
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby dukey » Fri 09 Feb 2007, 05:09:23

they are already in new uk passports
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