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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby kokoda » Wed 13 Dec 2006, 22:28:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')y the way you still haven't told me how several dozen eyewitnesses who saw an aircraft crash into the pentagon could all be wrong.


Like i said before, which u clearly didn't read. I am not saying a plane didn't crash at the pentagon. I am saying a 757 didn't crash at the pentagon! The hole in the front of pentagon was simply inconsistant with something as large as a 757 smashing into it. Probably something smaller like a globalhawk crashed into it. But without the physical evidence, no one can prove either way. That latest video that was released, you can see a something hurtling towards the pentagon and then the explosion, but you can't see anything as large as a 757, yet this got minimal mention in the news.

A globalhawk is a very weird looking aircraft ... I couldn't see anyone mistaking it for an airliner. Not a particularly fast aircraft either.

This is the actual breakdown of what people saw.

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/an ... esses.html

Make of that list what you will.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Armageddon » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 00:49:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '[')url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9147890225218338952&hl=en]December 13, 2006 Phone call with Robin Hordon, Air Traffic Controller at Boston Center - PilotsFor911Truth.org[/url]

30 minutes. Worth listening to.


Good interview. This air traffic controller knew it was an inside job by 4:00 pm on 911 before all the evidence existed. He said it is impossible to fly planes off course in the US. People don't realize how long those planes were in the air , and especially AFTER the first plane hit. Fighter jets are always on a jets tail in the matter of minutes after it is off course. It's all electronic. A signal goes off immediately. Remember the pro golfer Paine Stewart ? When his private jet went off course, they had fighter jets looking inside his windows within minutes , but on 911 highjacked jets flew around the country for an hour and a half with no fighter jets anywhere ? LOL, give me a friggen break people. This is getting more stupid every minute of my life I am wasting trying to explain this to you guys.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Lighthouse » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 02:24:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '.').. This is getting more stupid every minute of my life I am wasting trying to explain this to you guys.


Why?

Nobody here disputed that it smells fishy that none of the so well trained Airforce pilots with their expensive planes was dispatched to have a look ...
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Armageddon » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 02:32:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '.').. This is getting more stupid every minute of my life I am wasting trying to explain this to you guys.


Why?

Nobody here disputed that it smells fishy that none of the so well trained Airforce pilots with their expensive planes was dispatched to have a look ...


That alone should tell you it was inside job. They were running simulated attacks on the EXACT same scenario on the EXACT same date at the EXACT same time. I wonder why ? It wasn't to confuse the people who would try to stop it , not would it ? And guess what ? It did fool them. They said they thought it was a TEST and not the real thing. WAKE UP !!!!!
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Lighthouse » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 03:09:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '.')...WAKE UP !!!!!


I'm awake. But you should read slowly and try to comprehend simple English sentences. Maybe you start again and this time read what I wrote. Thank you I appreciate it!

I think your problem is, that you assume (again) that I buy the official story. You can't understand that I want to go to the bottom using science and not common sense. Therefore I must be on of "them". Your assumptions are as always misleading.

I think no-one here believes the US government can wash it's hands in innocent ...
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby dukey » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 07:44:37

whats this on the underside of the 2nd plane that hit the world trade centre ?

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could it be a missile ? :)
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whatever it is. It is pretty big

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This is what the underside of a 757 should look like. Looks a bit different ..

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Could it be something like this ?
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I am having problems too. I can't find flight 93 in any of these pics. Where is it ?
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still not seeing it
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ah silly me
here it is
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and again
how could i ever question this evidence ? :)
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Clearly the wreckage from a plane
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see a plane crashed here
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Doly » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 10:04:52

Well, there seem to be plenty of eyewitnesses saying that they saw flight 93 fall. Some of them are here:

http://flight93crash.com/flight93_eyewitness.html

Note that this site does not agree with the official theories, either. This should prove that the statements aren't fabricated.

I am willing to entertain the possibility that flight 93 was shot down. But I'm certainly unwilling to consider that it vanished into thin air.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby AlCzervik » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 10:15:11

But, dukey, they presented a mint condition Flight 93 hijacker bandana at the Moussaoui trial, even though the coroner couldn't even find any blood at the crash site!

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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Armageddon » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 12:42:05

My favorite is how Atta's passport flew out of his pocket through all the fire and landed on the streets below undamaged . LOL, omg that is hilarious. The black boxes , that are made from some of the toughest material known to man are destroyed, but a piece of paper isn't even singed, it remained perfectly intact.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 12:53:56

What a great thread. Wonderful stuff here.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Armageddon » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 13:10:21

from lighthouse , " I think your problem is, that you assume (again) that I buy the official story. You can't understand that I want to go to the bottom using science and not common sense "

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I am not really sure how science is going to solve a murder / conspiracy case when they have removed and covered up a lot of the evidence that could be investigated. ( science would be great here ) Normally in a crime scene, the evidence is thoroughly investigated and tested. But in this case, they removed everything such as the video cameras at and around the pentagon and the remains from wtc 1,2 and 7 , and shipped them off to china asap. No body was allowed to investigate anything. My question is, what are they hiding ?
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby kokoda » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 17:17:29

dukey

Flight 93 hit the ground at high speed ... it was not a controlled crash landing. We have already covered what happens to an aircraft that impacts at high speed.

Plus there are witnesses ... Boring.

http://www.flight93crash.com/flight93_eyewitness.html

You really haven't got a clue about aircraft have you dukey?

This is a USAF E-8 j-star which is based on the 707 airframe.

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Once again you are trying to mislead people by showing closely cropped images that leave out the embarrassing part of the picture.

Do they teach that sort of stuff in conspiracy school do they?

Fortunately since truth is on my side I don't have to resort to such tactics.

This is a long shot of the USAF E-8 j-star. It is used for intelligence gathering. Notice ... four engines.

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As for the images of a missile being fired into the world trade center ... LOL ... you are kidding me. You fire a missile one millisecond before you ram the building ...give me a break.

This is a photo of a regular 767 (Flight 175 was a 767)... Notice the pod.

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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby dukey » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 19:06:13

no commerial planes have 'pods' on their bellys. Thats the point, it shouldn't be there.
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If you can find a better pic of the underside of the plane that hit the 2nd tower, be my guest. I couldn't find any.
Heres a fairly high res photo
http://www.mistakesweremade.com/2ndTowe ... alSize.jpg

If you think the missile theory is so crazy
whats this ?
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in case you think its just an anomolie from a single frame
heres a video
u going to accuse me of cropping this too ? Lol ..
[flash width=425 height=350]http://www.youtube.com/v/UhXioCl5AjU[/flash]

This is what it should have looked like ..
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The one is weird too. The top one is obviously a render, but the bottom is a still frame from a video. You can clearly see an explosion before the plane hits the building. As you can see the shadow from the aircraft on the buidling.
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You can see it in this video too although its poor quality
http://911inplanesite.com/media/flight175anomalies.wmv

Theres something weird in this video too. Can you see it ?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... outh+tower
It looks like theres some lazer guided missle thing. In case you think this too is a video anomolie, it's in this video also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdOwtEeqPHw
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This is weird too
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http://killtown.911review.org/2nd-hit.html
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Lighthouse » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 19:31:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '.').. What are they hiding ?


Their incompetence? Their involvement?
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Armageddon » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 19:45:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '.').. What are they hiding ?


Their incompetence? Their involvement?


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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby kokoda » Thu 14 Dec 2006, 20:05:04

dukey,

I have already posted an image of the "pod". The images of the aircraft hitting the towers has been "enhanced" making these features more prominate then would normally be the case.

The "missile" video looks extremely dodgy. Its coming from the wrong building.
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Armageddon » Fri 15 Dec 2006, 00:26:48

A mix-up in Boston prevented the luggage from connecting with the plane that hijackers crashed into the north tower of the trade center. Seized by FBI agents at Boston's Logan Airport, investigators said, it contained Arab-language papers revealing the identities of all 19 hijackers involved in the four hijackings, as well as information on their plans, backgrounds and motives.

How wonderfully convenient that a man planning to commit suicide packs a suitcase full of all the "evidence" needed to point the finger of blame, and how wonderfully lucky we all were that this damning suitcase did not get on the plane with him!
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Re: Recent Video on Peak Oil

Unread postby Doly » Fri 15 Dec 2006, 09:33:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'H')ow wonderfully convenient that a man planning to commit suicide packs a suitcase full of all the "evidence" needed to point the finger of blame


Well, the man would probably want to get rid of the evidence, and crashing it with the plane maybe looked like a good idea. It's possible that some of that stuff was needed up to the last minute, and couldn't be detroyed before.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '
')how wonderfully lucky we all were that this damning suitcase did not get on the plane with him!


If you know anything about how often this sort of thing happens, you wouldn't be so surprised.
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