[Ibon]

But it only lasted a brief moment didn't it?

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'P')lainly and Simply I (and most likely many other Christians) do not fit the stereotype YOU have concieved in your mind about Christians, I am doing because it is how the Bible tells us to live.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou just reconfirmed my stereotype damnit. Help me out here dude? What happened to the man Clueless, he just slipped back in the house or mirrors......because the bible told him too.

I will never understand. Pray for me Clueless.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', ' ') I do not have time to do an in-depth study of this

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')or is "Psychology" the proper forum in which to discuss biblical history. Let's all try to stay on topic, please.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou never did logic, right?

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat you are saying is equivalent to "because fish are not bananas it will rain tomorrow".

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o a psychopath or sociopath should not be ashamed?

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ow, highlight the word "society". Humans are social animals and survive through cooperation. Watch a young child develop, around the age two they start to realise that they have to live with other people and compromise.

People who don't feel shame are "childish" or "infantile", they missed out that in their growing up

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o a psychopath or sociopath should not be ashamed?

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'H')elp me out here Rog, I'm not following your logic.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')et's start with a goal, first, else we can't say that we have achieved anything.

Goal is for mankind to continue existing on this planet in a recognizeably humane society.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'A')ccording to the Bible did God create and put man into Industrial Civ ? yes or no ?

[rwwff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'L')et's start with a goal, first, else we can't say that we have achieved anything.

Goal is for mankind to continue existing on this planet in a recognizeably humane society.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ccording to your logic everything we do is unsustainable and we cannot do otherwise.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'T')hen it has to have an end. This an indisputable, observed, scientific conclusion. All matter is subject to entropy.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'I')t sounds an awful lot like you are imposing your views on others, why are yours right and mine wrong ?

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')es industrial civilisation is unsustainable, but that is not *because* man invented it, it is because it depends on using resources faster than they can be replenished.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')up, that is just my goal. Some want anarchy, some want to rule the world, some want to colonize the universe, some want everyone drinking coke and eating McDonalds.

Yup, just my goal.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'B')ut using your relativistic reasoning it is impossible to come to any conclusions about how we should live, because we, as a race of people, by your definition have no purpose for existence.