[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('strider3700', 'I')'m not saying either side is wrong. Personally I'm hoping the war steps it up and one side annihilates the other.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'T')he moral force of international opinion was sufficiently well developed even by 1940 to preclude it.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'T')he allies did not defeat the axis in order to stop the holocaust.

[strider3700]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '
')Isreal can't possibly be successful here.

[azreal60]

So in otherwords, america doesn't do right things because it wants to. It does it because it built it's image up that way and if it goes against that image it tears down that which makes it america?

Two things on that.
One, if that where true, we probably wouldn't have gone into Iraq.
Two, if that is true, then we would do the right thing anyway, and weither or not we want to do the wrong thing is immaterial.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'T')he only logical reason I can see why the US goaded Japan into attacking them and then declared war on Germany was that they were forced to by public opinion.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('azreal60', 'T')wo things on that.
One, if that where true, we probably wouldn't have gone into Iraq.
Two, if that is true, then we would do the right thing anyway, and weither or not we want to do the wrong thing is immaterial.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o why do you think the US fought Germany?

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'Q')uite the reverse, the US public was against another war. Pearl Harbour changed public opinion.

[Grifter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '
')Britain and the Empire were under threat and Churchill did all he could to get the US onto the allied side, at that time it was not even clear which side the US would join. The price of US involvement was basically the end of the British Empire and it's coveted trade relations.

[seldom_seen]

The rise of Nazism in Europe was appeased to the left to the right and all around preceding World War II. It was only when serious carnage and destruction set in that people started to wake up.

The return of Nazism is appeased to the left and the right and all around. Same story new day. Time is not linear but circular. Thousands upon thousands will have to die before the resurgence of Islamic fascism is once again beaten back to their little corner of the world.

Very few people have even read or understand the history of Islam. Their sacking of India and replacing Hindu temples with mosques. The rampage through Northern Africa and in to Europe. The Taliban destruction of the great Bhuddist statues is symbolic of 1600 years of the Islamic empire. There used to be jews all over the middle east.

Nor do many people even bother to acknowledge the Muslim hatred of jews that goes back to the life of Muhammad. All the way back to Medina. Yes, one of "Islams holiest cities." There used to be lots of jews living there.

The whole idea that Jerusalem is a "holy place" for muslims is complete and total nazi propoganda. Do you think it is just a coincidence that muslims built the al-Aqsa mosque right smack on top of the temple mount, the holiest place for all jews? Mohammad never even set foot near Jerusalem. If you think it's just a coincidence, then plug your ipod back in and take another hit off the crack pipe.

The leaders of Europe have knives at their throats from their muslim populations. At the same time they don't want to upset the applecart of cheap energy. So they meekly stand by and condemn Israel in hopes of not having muslim riots in the streets of France again or bombs in the Subways of Spain and the UK.



I see the mark of the beast on their ugly faces. I see them congregating in evil places -Peter Tosh

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '
')The leaders of Europe have knives at their throats from their muslim populations.

[seldom_seen]

I forgot to add, the leftists, the "progressives," the Che Guevera t-shirt crowd. They the love the Islamists. Because they see in the Islamists what they themselves don't have. The courage to act. The leftists are mostly passivist and weak without the will to carry out "The Revolution."

Someone in this thread described Hizballah as a "leftist" movement. I heard someone on NPR describe the leader of Hizballah as a cross between the Shah of Iran and Che Guevera.

This is so silly and sad it's pathetic. These "progressives" will be the first to have their throat slit when the islamic revolution reaches their neighborhood. All of the social values that they despise and hate in George Bush and the republicans are magnified and on steroids with the Islamic revolutionaries.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'T')hey the love the Islamists. Because they see in the Islamists what they themselves don't have. The courage to act.

[Grifter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hey the love the Islamists.

[seldom_seen]

Why do you jump on what I say like a cat on its prey? I don't vote for your George Bushes or your John Kerrys or any of the representatives of your one party shitstem. There is no lesser of two evils, just evil.

Hitler is on the rise in the Middle East and he has a scarf on his head and a koran in his hand. If you can't stomach this fact than deny, obfuscate, appease and come up with all sort of rationalizations for what's happening.

Otherwise just quit being a f'ing pussy and state what side you're on. I'm on the side of Israel, and I hope they crush the Nazis. I have no plans of joining a suicidal death cult that treats their women like this:



or this:



I don't plan on teaching my son to slice his head open:



or teaching him how to kill himself:

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', 'Y')ou're just as fanatical as them.

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'I') forgot to add, the leftists, the "progressives," the Che Guevera t-shirt crowd. They the love the Islamists. Because they see in the Islamists what they themselves don't have. The courage to act. The leftists are mostly passivist and weak without the will to carry out "The Revolution."

This is so silly and sad it's pathetic. These "progressives" will be the first to have their throat slit when the islamic revolution reaches their neighborhood. All of the social values that they despise and hate in George Bush and the republicans are magnified and on steroids with the Islamic revolutionaries.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'I')'m on the side of Israel, and I hope they crush the Nazis.

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'T')he rise of Nazism in Europe was appeased to the left to the right and all around preceding World War II. It was only when serious carnage and destruction set in that people started to wake up.