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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby Grifter » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 17:42:51

A bunch of pictures, great :roll:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('strider3700', '
')I'm not saying either side is wrong.


I didn't do very well at philosophy, I did pass but barely.

I know what is wrong, and there are facts that will point to the fact that something is morally wrong with our unflinching support for Israel. Always.

17 UN resolutions violated by Israel at the time of the Iraq invasion. Iraq had violated less. There are other facts but thats a big one.

I understand though if you don't have an idea for a solution, 'cause neither do I.

Except we could stop participating in acts of terror if we wanted to reduce terrorism. We've never tried it I think. Its worth a go.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby Magus » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 18:02:47

Now we know how Israel will respond to any criticisms of their military campaign... :roll:

Casualties reported in Israeli strike at U.N. base

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ebanese TV reported four observers were killed, while Al-Arabiya television reported four wounded. Neither gave a source for its figures and they could not be immediately confirmed.

At U.N. headquarters in New York, U.N. chief Kofi Annan was asked about the attack and said, “I’m trying to get the details.”

He also said there were 14 other incidents of firing close to this position from the Israeli side Tuesday afternoon. “The firing continued even during the rescue operation,” he said.

Since Israel launched a military offensive against Lebanon and Hezbollah guerrillas July 12, an international civilian employee working with UNIFIL and his wife have been killed in the crossfire between Israeli forces and Hezbollah guerrillas in the southern port city of Tyre.

Five UNIFIL soldiers and one military observer have also been wounded, Struger said.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby Miki » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 18:17:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ell since we're both human I doubt that you mean species, you're probably thinking more about wiping out my culture.


No, I was talking about your species because a person with no morals like you can't belong to the same species I belong to.

I have no problem with your culture. I think Vancouver is a beautiful place. Canada is one of the countries with the highest populations of Lebanese.

My problem is with people like you, wherever culture they come from. I despise them in all forms and colors.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ee here's the thing. My country hasn't started wars or attacked our neighbours lately. Actually other then that little tiff with the americans a few hundred years back we've been perfectly civil with each other. When terrorists show up in Canada wanting to blow up parts of the US we do our best to capture them and prevent it from happening. We don't just let them be.


Lucky you. The political situation in the Mddle East is much more complex than the Canadian. But obviously you don't know much about that.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')rue you've got me there, perhaps we should have another peace accord. Then both sides can have time to regroup and then decide that the terms didn't favor themselves enough and then we can start the bombing again.


If Palestinians were given their land and were left to live in peace by the Israelis, a lot of the problem would be solved. If Israel stopped playing the bully in the Middle East and invading Lebanese land whenever it wants, the situation would get better. But the Israelis just cannot accept that. They want to have their cake and eat it: they want to look Western and democratic and play the victims, while they have been stealing land and provoking their neighbors for ages.

Just ONE example: The Israelis fill their mouth talking about the UN resolution that asked for the disarming of Hisbalah, but how will that happen if they don't comply first with a PRIOR UN resolution that asked them to withdraw COMPLETELY from Lebanon: no blue line, no bullshit. They have no business in sovereign Lebanese territory. But the Israelis are bullies. They think God granted them the right to own all the land and the resources that they want. And Bush has the same rotten mentality. No wonder they ge along.

In those terms, there can't be peace. They can kill all Arabs, but they won't subdue them. An Arab will never leave his/her land. Never.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')as there really peace in the middle east before the creation of israel?
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That has nothing to do with the argument at hand. That's like saying that Black people need to be slaves today because they were slaves before they arrived to America.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby TheTurtle » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 18:29:49

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If it looks like a nazi, and quacks like a nazi. It's a nazi.


Oooh ... what a fun game! :P

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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby Miki » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 18:40:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f it looks like a nazi, and quacks like a nazi. It's a nazi.


It's funny that you compare Hisballah with the Nazis when they're a very leftist movement, very oriented to the masses and social welfare. The exact opposite of the right wing fascists. In fact, the US government is much closer to Hitler than Hisbalah will ever be...even more now with the Patriotic Act.

The US is a fascist dictatorship in disguize.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby Magus » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 18:46:18

Ohhh...can I play, too? :evil:

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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby seldom_seen » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:16:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'I')t's funny that you compare Hisballah with the Nazis when they're a very leftist movement, very oriented to the masses and social welfare.

Haha. What do you think Nazi stands for? It's the National Socialist German Workers Party, "Very oriented to the masses and social welfare."

Why do you think Mein Kampf is one of the best selling books throughout the muslim world? Why did hitler have is very own regiment of Muslim SS?

Hizbollah would very much like to finish what Hitler started. If you can't see the connections and the parallels you are either very ignorant or very disingenuous.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby Miki » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:23:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')aha. What do you think Nazi stands for? It's the National Socialist German Workers Party, "Very oriented to the masses and social welfare."



Who cares about the official name? In practice they were everything but socialists.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hy do you think Mein Kampf is one of the best selling books throughout the muslim world? Why did hitler have is very own regiment of Muslim SS?




Perhaps because the Israelis have gained the Arab hate with their hard work of the last decades?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')izbollah would very much like to finish what Hitler started. If you can't see the connections and the parallels you are either very ignorant or very disingenuous.


Please. Do you know why Hisballah was formed in the first place? Or are you just threading conspiracy theories from your backyard?

No, I can't see any connections. Sorry.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby holmes » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:28:15

Miki grab yourslef a rifle and get over their and join the hizbollah! Why arent u a part of hizballah? You are as frantic and crazy as they are. You need to go now! They need you badly! Im not sure whay you are not fighting along side them? With them.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby rogerhb » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:32:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'M')iki grab yourslef a rifle and get over their and join the hizbollah! Why arent u a part of hizballah? You are as frantic and crazy as they are. You need to go now! They need you badly! Im not sure whay you are not fighting along side them? With them.


Holmes, are you looking forward to going to kindergarten? Mummy says it'll be lots of fun.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby Miki » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:33:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'M')iki grab yourslef a rifle and get over their and join the hizbollah! Why arent u a part of hizballah? You are as frantic and crazy as they are. You need to go now! They need you badly! Im not sure whay you are not fighting along side them? With them.


I'm busy preventing more damage from US/Israeli terrorism against my countrymen.

But you're invited to join the Israeli terrorist army whenever you want. They need people passionate for their cause like you.

I see that you managed to talk without insults this tme. Congratulations on your progress.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby seldom_seen » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:40:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'P')erhaps because the Israelis have gained the Arab hate

When you have no response just blame the jews. I see where you're coming from now. Holmes is right. You need to grab your bomb belt and get over there quick like.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby Magus » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:42:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'O') god its gotten to name calling now. Why are u in this country MIki.
Now we need to bomb new zealand now!
Roger why arent u in lebanon? In fact why arent any of u in lebanon. Enjoying the fruits of America I see.
Your spoiled rotten babies.
In fact mods your po.com is a worthless turd site now. Best of luck with your "ecological paradigm and getting the word out". Your in direct violation of both. peace and good luck.


O.K., bye bye now!

Don't let the door hit you, on the way out.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby holmes » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:43:36

and seldom u dont see them even addressing overpopulation and the carrying capacity of the land. they are pure hate and aggression and illogic. They are nonsense pure and simple. Nothign to do with peace or changing the system. Behead!
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby Magus » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:47:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'a')nd seldom u dont see them even addressing overpopulation and the carrying capacity of the land. they are pure hate and aggression and illogic. They are nonsense pure and simple. Nothign to do with peace or changing the system. Behead!


BEHEAD?! :lol: :lol: [smilie=qgreenjumpers.gif]

Oh, and for a sample of the Arab people's "barbarism..."

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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby Miki » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:53:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'P')erhaps because the Israelis have gained the Arab hate

When you have no response just blame the jews. I see where you're coming from now. Holmes is right. You need to grab your bomb belt and get over there quick like.


That was my response. Sorry if it didn't please you.

I'm not inclined towards suicide bombings. But thanks for the suggestion. I'll keep it in mind.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby Magus » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:59:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', '[')color=red]{several violations of Code of Conduct deleted -TheTurtle}[/color]


Did I just have a (pathetic) threat on my life? :evil:

In this little scenario of yours, where you... "destroy me with your bare hands..."
I'd like to know more about how you would get around me pulling out a Springfield XD 45 ACP? I wonder how you got around that...
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby rogerhb » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 20:12:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', 'P')erhaps because the Israelis have gained the Arab hate

When you have no response just blame the jews. I see where you're coming from now. Holmes is right. You need to grab your bomb belt and get over there quick like.


Just to remind you, "jews" does not equate to "Israel", nor "Israelies".

But I understand your confusion if you have a limited vocabulary.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby azreal60 » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 21:52:32

That is a point. The reason I think this conflict is such a problem is the nation of israel is considered a Jewish nation, even if alot of it isn't as religious as people think. So it's looked at as a religious war.

Now, if you can get past that DUH statement, you folks have to realize a few things.

One, it's hard to remain rational with people you know getting killed. Especially when they had absolutely nothing to do with terrorism other than living in the same country as you.

Two, it's easy to say what you think from thousands of miles away. I have not really put in my two cents cause frankly I'm not sure I could come up with that many pennies on this topic.

And finally, I find it ironic that the UN speaker was used as a source when he seems universally derided around here as a powerless nobody who everyone is glad he doesn't have power because if he did it would be horrible. I'm not saying I dislike him, I'm just wondering when the UN got better info than everyone else did.
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Re: UN Speaker accuses Hezbollah of civilian casualties

Unread postby rogerhb » Tue 25 Jul 2006, 22:05:56

But it is important for both Israel and the US to obscure the difference between Judaism and Israel. It allows them to charge anyone critical of the government of Israel as anti-semitic.

However, the Semites include all Arabs.

That is another deliberate obscurity.
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