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Re: Help! Wife Thinks Im Nuts!

Unread postby clueless » Thu 04 May 2006, 14:10:34

Wow Matt,

I told you if you are looking for Peak Oil groupies, Eugene is the place to go, you could have your own harem to tend your organic garden and fetch water...

I told you but you don't listen....
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Re: Help! Wife Thinks Im Nuts!

Unread postby crapattack » Fri 05 May 2006, 04:33:18

Wednesday wrote:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '^')^I think you should stop being such an ass and stop spreading your fucked up brand of feminine misogyny all over the forums.

I understand that you are a victim of your own bad choices, and that you do not realize that there is another way to live.

I'll agree that youre fucked.


"feminine misogyny" right on Wednesday! I don't know why TB is such a woman hater but I've noticed this on other threads too.

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Re: Help! Wife Thinks Im Nuts!

Unread postby threadbear » Fri 05 May 2006, 13:21:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('crapattack', 'W')ednesday wrote:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '^')^I think you should stop being such an ass and stop spreading your fucked up brand of feminine misogyny all over the forums.

I understand that you are a victim of your own bad choices, and that you do not realize that there is another way to live.

I'll agree that youre fucked.


"feminine misogyny" right on Wednesday! I don't know why TB is such a woman hater but I've noticed this on other threads too.

Stereotypes are the comforting retreat for those who don't want to be challenged with the truth.


Please show where I've indicated a "hatred" of women. I'm simply fair handed. If you are happier believing that every character flaw a woman indulges can be traced back to some kind of deep pathology or is the result of mistreatment at the hands of a man, that's up to you, CrapAttack.


You've confirmed my observation that it's culturally permissable
to analyze men, from a purely moral perspective, but if anyone, including a woman, ever dares to criticize other women, (no matter how even handed and qualified the approach), they are labelled misogynistic, self loathing or etc... Talk about stereotyping!

Peak oil is upon us, times are going to get rough. I fully expect that in the future, all kinds of negative personality effects will be judged very harshly, for men and women alike, regardless of reason or origin. There will be no time or energy to waste on self indulgence of any kind, or those who indulge the self indulgent.
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Re: Help! Wife Thinks Im Nuts!

Unread postby Wednesday » Fri 05 May 2006, 19:56:42

You see, if my husband never indulged me we would not have a garden today.

If he insisted that I conform to his personal vision of the future, we would not have ANY of our Peak Oil preps in place.

He did it because he thought it would be a fun, healthy hobby for me, it was simply a man indulging his wife.

Now my preps might ease our transition, and because he was kind and indulgent he will benefit.

He's also come around to see things differently since then, he's not blind. I always knew he'd "get it" and he has.

If my husband can learn, why not these men's wives too?
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Re: Help! Wife Thinks Im Nuts!

Unread postby threadbear » Fri 05 May 2006, 20:34:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', 'Y')ou see, if my husband never indulged me we would not have a garden today.

If he insisted that I conform to his personal vision of the future, we would not have ANY of our Peak Oil preps in place.

He did it because he thought it would be a fun, healthy hobby for me, it was simply a man indulging his wife.

Now my preps might ease our transition, and because he was kind and indulgent he will benefit.

He's also come around to see things differently since then, he's not blind. I always knew he'd "get it" and he has.

If my husband can learn, why not these men's wives too?


The original post that triggered this was a while back on another thread and involved a man who couldn't get his wife to quit shopping. It wasn't simply a case of not being able to educate her as to the real dire future we may all face, but one where the woman would surely have bankrupted them both, peak oil or no. I don't think that particular situation was at all similar to your situation that you've just described.

As for the fellow who started this particular thread, if you read my follow up response to his particular situation, you'll see I certainly wouldn't suggest dumping a spouse for simply not understanding peak oil!

When I referred to some people as "a waste of skin"on the older thread it triggered a barrage of personal insults. Having had a MALE partner a couple of decades ago who was completely selfish, spent everything he had and then went deeply into debt, I have an aversion, not for women, but for certain personality types.
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Re: Help! Wife Thinks Im Nuts!

Unread postby Wednesday » Fri 05 May 2006, 22:02:39

It's a shame about your selfish partner. You have my condolences. Don't let it ruin the rest of your life, tho.

I can't stop shopping either, tb. I just spend more of mine at the hardware store than most people. In my husband's eyes, it originally looked like an unneccesary expense. Now he's on board the project and our marriage was never once threatened by our differing visions.

He was probably a bit worried about me back in Jan and Feb of '05 when I didnt stop crying for 2 months. After I recovered from the PO shock, I was highly motivated to get something done. I think he was just relieved that I had stopped crying. lol

Your personal experiences are clouding your perceptions, that's only human.

I challenge you to try and think outside your personal experiences and realize that generalizations seldom reflect reality. I believe you are capable or I wouldnt issue the challenge.

I dont particularly care for stupid selfish people either, but I don't assume that's where a person is coming from without proof of it.

If you're as hard on yourself as you are on others, please give yourself a little breathing room.
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Re: Help! Wife Thinks Im Nuts!

Unread postby threadbear » Sat 06 May 2006, 00:32:07

Wednesday, We ALL funnel impressions of others through our own experiences. Are you actually claiming you don't do this?

Your response is so stridently condescending, it's funny. Anyone who bothers to read it will be laughing at you, not with you.

BTW, forum etiquette. You can insult my ideas,my values, my philosophy, my spelling, my grammar and be as rude about it as you want, but leave me out of it. If you insist on personally insulting me, as you have on a few ocassions now, be prepared for a little blowback.
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Re: Help! Wife Thinks Im Nuts!

Unread postby Wednesday » Sat 06 May 2006, 00:38:19

No, I'm not making any claims.

Privately, however, I do actively practice expanding my ability to empathize and see other points of view.

The challenge stands. Suit yourself.
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Re: Help! Wife Thinks Im Nuts!

Unread postby threadbear » Sat 06 May 2006, 01:40:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', 'N')o, I'm not making any claims.

Privately, however, I do actively practice expanding my ability to empathize and see other points of view.

The challenge stands. Suit yourself.


If the challenge involves suffering fools gladly, I decline. But that's very rich and as an empath you must be laughing along with me.
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Re: Help! Wife Thinks Im Nuts!

Unread postby Wednesday » Sat 06 May 2006, 01:47:01

On the contrary, I find you more tragic than amusing.
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spouse problems

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Sat 15 Sep 2007, 10:22:28

I think we need a sticky thread for people to discuss PO related problems with their spouses. Seems like those threads come up a lot and have a lot of repeated issues.
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Re: spouse problems

Unread postby Don35 » Sat 15 Sep 2007, 11:06:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'I') think we need a sticky thread for people to discuss PO related problems with their spouses. Seems like those threads come up a lot and have a lot of repeated issues.


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Re: spouse problems

Unread postby drew » Sat 15 Sep 2007, 11:58:40

It's simple, don't whig out your wife!

Alternatively, when her eyes glaze over, shut up!

No Matt Savinar/MQ die off talk, ever!

Works fine for me.

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Re: spouse problems

Unread postby cantom » Sat 15 Sep 2007, 15:15:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'I') think we need a sticky thread for people to discuss PO related problems with their spouses. Seems like those threads come up a lot and have a lot of repeated issues.


I want to spend some money on planning, specifically, building and upgrading some new fences around our house, a stainless chimney, a pile o' firewood etc. I'm looking at thousands here and how do I explain this to my wife?
I don't want to alarm her...but I feel the need to do these things urgently. How to sugar coat it and keep her from considering me a paranoid whack?
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Re: spouse problems

Unread postby WhatMeWorry » Sat 15 Sep 2007, 17:13:19

I have slowly feed my wife bits of information, regarding what is coming. Then as things appear in the media that validate my points I can say Hmmm did we talk about that? I think slowly and patiently is the key, I know sometimes I feel like she doesn't see what I see, but she is getting there.
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Re: spouse problems

Unread postby roccman » Sat 15 Sep 2007, 17:23:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Don35', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'I') think we need a sticky thread for people to discuss PO related problems with their spouses. Seems like those threads come up a lot and have a lot of repeated issues.


Divorced. No longer a problem! :lol:


Times two here.

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Re: spouse problems

Unread postby JPL » Sat 15 Sep 2007, 17:23:53

My wife is an ex-hippie, ex-communist radical & a closet earth-mother type (don't say I said that). Whatever I talk about Peak Oil I get invisible approval points even though she has no interest in the subject.

Don't know if that helps...

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Re: spouse problems

Unread postby IanC » Sat 15 Sep 2007, 17:36:13

I think you can couch lots of home improvement and preparation-related expenses by pointing to either "energy savings" for the latter and "disaster preparedness" for the former. Make the money argument, not the Apocalypse argument. Also, keep in mind that the best preparation will only keep you alive as long as your better-armed neighbor allows...

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Re: spouse problems

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Sat 15 Sep 2007, 18:39:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Don35', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'I') think we need a sticky thread for people to discuss PO related problems with their spouses. Seems like those threads come up a lot and have a lot of repeated issues.


Divorced. No longer a problem! :lol:


Times two here.

Traded the bitches for a bunker full of food.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')raded the bitches


roccman, I've taken you for a lot of things but never a fundamentalist mormon!

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Re: spouse problems

Unread postby horsestoaster » Sat 15 Sep 2007, 19:00:43

*sigh* hubby not really totally on board for any sort of P.O. scenario whether it is doomer or soft landing style,He utterly believes in the energy fairy saving all our asses,everywhere.But he likes food from the garden,light bills that go down because we use no a/c,put our laundry on the line.let him buy more guns and much ammo,and use a woodburner in the winter so he can tell his buds at work how small his light bill is.He likes driving and riding horses I train,rabbit and chicken(& eggs),goats milk and pheasant.Smile and lead the little ones quietly and confidently.Walk across the scary tarp-covered mattress it won't hurt you sweety...
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