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Trader's Corner 2006

Discussions about the economic and financial ramifications of PEAK OIL

Where will the price of WTIC oil be on December 29, 2006?

Less than $50
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Around $55
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Around $60
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Around $65
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Around $70
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More than $80
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Thu 27 Apr 2006, 06:19:00

This is interesting:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')pplying modern finance to America's biggest asset class

THERE are many ways to manage risk in America's markets, but the country's sophisticated web of financial products has a $21.6 trillion hole in it. That is how much wealth is tied up in residential property—far more than even the $15 trillion value of America's publicly traded equities. And unlike investors in shares, bonds and many other assets, those with a stake in housing do not have an easy way to hedge the risks. However, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) is planning to fill that gap.

In the next few weeks, the CME is likely to open trading in financial futures and options linked to American house prices. Investors who want to hedge the risks of residential property—or merely to speculate on the market's direction—will be able to bet on a rise or drop in a house-price index, without having to buy or sell bricks and mortar. With interest rates on the rise, prompting worries that the recent housing boom is about to give way to a downturn, the potential appeal of these new hedging products is easy to see.

Punters will be able to bet on price changes in ten cities from Boston to San Diego, as well on a national index that aggregates all ten. The indices will be part of the CME's Alternative Investment Products group, which fosters derivatives linked to economically important trends and events not directly related to underlying securities or commodities. The group already has products based on the weather and on economic data such as non-farm payrolls.

Creating a useful and reliable index of house prices is tricky, since no two homes are identical and the market is full of messy transactions. But a pair of economists, Karl Case and Robert Shiller, have spent more than a decade sorting out many of the problems, and for several years have published proprietary indices that highlight trends in the market. (Mr Shiller, a tauricidal academic who has spent much of his career slaying bulls and their foaming theories, has a special interest in tracking American house prices, which he has claimed are ripe for a fall.) The Case-Shiller indices have now been tweaked a bit to create a version suitable for trading.

Because the new derivatives will allow bets up to only a year ahead, homeowners will not be able to use them to hedge long-term risks. That limits their usefulness for ordinary folk. For many companies in the property industry, however, they should be helpful. A property developer or contractor, for example, can start a housing project without worrying whether prices will fall sharply by the time it is completed. Monika Piazessi, an economist at the University of Chicago's Graduate School of Business, says that half the volatility in the price of individual homes is linked to city-wide changes in prices. So the CME's new city indices could go a long way towards lowering the risks.

Financial firms such as mortgage lenders will also no doubt find uses for the new derivatives. And so will investors with a view about America's residential property market—whether they expect a continued boom, or a bust.


Applying modern finance to America's biggest asset class

Prepare for peak oil. Buy an energy ETF or index fund with the equity in your house and then hedge a fall in the value of your home with an option? Take that James Kunstler! ; - )

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') While other industries, such as agriculture and the financial markets, have access to a wide range of financial risk management tools, such tools have not been available to the housing industry – until now. CME is continuing its tradition of innovation with the creation of the first comprehensive products to hedge risk in real estate – CME Housing futures and options. These products provide opportunities for protection in down markets, and extend to the housing industry the same financial tools that previous CME innovations have brought to agriculture and finance. By providing a means of hedging exposure to home prices, they can diffuse the potential impact of sustained declines in housing prices. In addition, they:

Create a new means of risk transfer to a broad range of investors
Have the potential for fostering stability in the housing industry
Provide an innovative way to participate in the real estate market without having to buy and sell properties
Based on the S&P/Case-Shiller (CS) Home Price Indexes, CME Housing futures and options are cash-settled to a weighted composite index of U.S. real estate prices, as well as to specific markets in 10 major U.S. cities:

Boston, Miami, New York, San Diego, San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Chicago, Denver, Las Vegas and Los Angeles.

CME Housing futures and options

Ya, sell Las Vegas big time, baby! Buy some weather derivatives for those long, hot summers with no rain due to climate change ; - )
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby cube » Thu 27 Apr 2006, 12:31:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'T')his is interesting:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')pplying modern finance to America's biggest asset class

THERE are many ways to manage risk in America's markets, but the country's sophisticated web of financial products has a $21.6 trillion hole in it. That is how much wealth is tied up in residential property—far more than even the $15 trillion value of America's publicly traded equities. And unlike investors in shares, bonds and many other assets, those with a stake in housing do not have an easy way to hedge the risks. However, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) is planning to fill that gap.
I remember reading a book about how Jesse Livermore shorted the stock market back in 1929 and earned the title "the bear of wall street"

If he was alive today he'd short the housing market. :lol:
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Fri 28 Apr 2006, 06:33:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'T')his is interesting:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')pplying modern finance to America's biggest asset class

THERE are many ways to manage risk in America's markets, but the country's sophisticated web of financial products has a $21.6 trillion hole in it. That is how much wealth is tied up in residential property—far more than even the $15 trillion value of America's publicly traded equities. And unlike investors in shares, bonds and many other assets, those with a stake in housing do not have an easy way to hedge the risks. However, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) is planning to fill that gap.
I remember reading a book about how Jesse Livermore shorted the stock market back in 1929 and earned the title "the bear of wall street"

If he was alive today he'd short the housing market. :lol:


Today, he would have to appear before a Senate House committee and testify how he made the money? How he knew the market was over-valued? Defend his trading profits against a hue & cry to impose a tax clawback in the name of price gouging? And likely face private class action lawsuits from disgruntled homeowners, who feel he should have informed them that he thought prices were overvalued and warned them before he sold property or bought options? A whole cadre of chatrooms would be dedicated to calling him a capitalist scum living off the misery of the working family.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Fri 28 Apr 2006, 09:23:44

Sorry have not been very chatty today. Problems with email so not getting some research and my technicals are a mixed bag. Obviously, turning down due to 4-days of sustanined losses off the highs, but this morning the hourly charts turned upwards for a bit of profit taking.

What can I say. Twice long today. Twice took profit too early so missed the bulk of the correction. Still in European time zone, Mr.Bill's Rule has held and we have been in essentially a 95-100 point range. Some position squaring ahead of this afternoon's UN report on Iran, which Iran has already pooh poohed as being the nothing more than the behind the scenes lobbying of the the US in any case. So regardless of what the report says, it will not be news. Reformulated hash maybe?

Still, I sold a little here just to be contrarian, but would look to take it back ahead of $7100 before the report comes out just in case. It is not a long weekend, but many players will still be taking the May 1st holiday, and between May 5th (Spanish) and May 7th (Russian) many take this block of time off. However, it is a Friday and Iran is on everyone's mind, so likely better to be square ahead of the weekend.

Here are some metals comments by DRKW
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') Market comment
Gold: A volatile day for precious metals yesterday as sideways trading
clouded the extent of the ranges covered. Gold began by drifting lower and reached a low of 628.50, down -$10 from the open of 638.70, as China raised rates by a quarter point. However, subsequent comments from Bernanke focusing on US imbalances and potential rate hike pauses weakened USD and boosted metals across the board in the afternoon. Gold posted a high of 643 before further profit taking saw the price slip back ahead of resistance between 645/50 and the metal closed finally at 632.80. Going into a long weekend holiday in Europe, volatility is likely to remain a key feature, as Iran says it does not ‘give a damn’ about the UN resolution.

Silver: Silver shadowed gold’s trading pattern, but the $0.80 hi-lo range was crossed 3 times, from 12.80 opening to 12.30 low to 13.08 high back to close at 12.47. Falling early in the day with gold and base on China rate news, silver recovered sharply as Bernanke’s comments coincided with a final approval statement from SEC for the silver ETF. The silver ETF is expected to begin trading today on the American Stock Exchange, and initial trading and demand perceptions will drive the silver price this afternoon.

Platinum: The market remained undecided about the new platinum levels
coming through yesterday as the price yo-yo’d with silver. Moving from 1,126 to 1,140 by the London AM Fix, platinum lost ground in the general liquidation before finding buyers on the dip back to 1,120 and finally rebounding to 1,138 on USD/rate comments. Prices remain firm this morning despite the JPY strength after USD weakened.

Palladium: Completing the quartet palladium showed a similar, if a little more restrained trading pattern. Opening levels around 360 gave way to lows of 345, but the metal recovered the opening levels by the close. The failure to break higher in the afternoon with the rally in other commodities may signal a short term warning of further consolidation.


The USD is $1.2550 against the euro, $1.8085 against Sterling and 114.30 yen to the dollar. Think the impact of China's rate hike will be miniscule other than to keep the market's focus on the US rate tightening cycle nearing its end in the short-term while others are still fine tuning, and drawing attention to the US' gaping deficits, which need to be filled by hook or by crook.

Have a nice weekend and speak to you later. Cheers.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Fri 28 Apr 2006, 09:41:16

Um, forget that game plan. Market already spiked another 50 cents since I penned those words, so I am stopped out even before NY walks in the door and we see the contents of the UN report. Oh well, greatness will have to wait for next week. See ya.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby Chaparral » Fri 28 Apr 2006, 13:17:00

Went long one HU-M06 at 20620 and exited at 20720 figuring I'd better not chance waiting for it to hit 20800. So much for that guess, it's at 21040 now. Dare I short?
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Fri 28 Apr 2006, 13:36:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chaparral', 'W')ent long one HU-M06 at 20620 and exited at 20720 figuring I'd better not chance waiting for it to hit 20800. So much for that guess, it's at 21040 now. Dare I short?


Crude is up very strong, but off the highs. If, then only sell TAS not before. I dunno, I guess this move may have flipped some of the indicators and given the bulls some confidence after a shaky week? With a long weekend (for some) I would be tempted to leave it alone. Have a great weekend. Cheers.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby highfructose » Fri 28 Apr 2006, 16:27:35

I think oil just erased that spike and could resume its move up the near term trendline. The spike up could have been a huge example of "buying the rumour (Iran cutting off oil) and selling the news".
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby Chaparral » Fri 28 Apr 2006, 19:43:32

I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself. When I smelled blood i lunged for the kill and sold CL-M06 at 7230 :-)

Makes me feel a little less bad for having sold off all my gold this morning at 6474 :cry:
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby drew » Mon 01 May 2006, 07:43:07

Bitten in the ass today. Stop loss orders are supposed to be your freinds right? I had begun placing them again last week at ten % below my holdings. That damn barclays silver exchange caused my CEF.NV.A to drop enough to sell. I didn't "REALLY" want to sell did I??? Funny thing is the adage 'buy on rumour sell on news' is true. CEF dropped very breifly to 9.95, on the news and then is right back up to 11.00 in after hours bids when I checked this morning. That's a nice 10% I just 'lost' by failing to hold on. Oh well, live and learn.

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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Tue 02 May 2006, 03:59:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', 'B')itten in the ass today. Stop loss orders are supposed to be your freinds right? I had begun placing them again last week at ten % below my holdings. That damn barclays silver exchange caused my CEF.NV.A to drop enough to sell. I didn't "REALLY" want to sell did I??? Funny thing is the adage 'buy on rumour sell on news' is true. CEF dropped very breifly to 9.95, on the news and then is right back up to 11.00 in after hours bids when I checked this morning. That's a nice 10% I just 'lost' by failing to hold on. Oh well, live and learn.

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Sorry to hear that Drew. The market sniffs out the stop loss limit levels, so have to be prepared for that type of bad luck. Minus 10% is quite a large stop loss limit though? Corresponds to a +30% take profit, which for mere mortals represents a pretty good year, unless you're a copper trader and then you expect those type of returns every quarter or so? ; - )

Due to the holiday, was out of the market, and missed this move higher in crude. I see from the technicals, that altough volatile, the 13 & 21 hour moving averages performed very well. In at $7110 some sideways dips, but the long would have stayed in place until at least $7410 this morning here. Oh well, I enjoyed my weekend and fresh for another week. Good luck and speak to you soon. Cheers.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby Typhoon » Tue 02 May 2006, 11:40:54

I thought that crude would test the $69.20 area. Not only was this previous resistance, but it's also the 38.2% Fibonacci retracement of the move up from the February low to the recent high at $75.35. However, yesterday's price action convinces me that crude will continue higher.

I think that tomorrow's inventory report will show a small drawdown of gasoline. Refinery capacity utilization should be near 90%. Gasoline drawdowns will stop soon, but I think that the lack of crude oil supply will become evident. Net imports are 3.6% below year-ago levels. Are exporters temporarily shipping less oil to the U.S. as a result of the refinery bottleneck here? I don't think so. Due to the contango in the market, it is advantageous for refiners to continue to build inventories.

Commitments of Traders reports continue to be a concern for the bulls. Large speculators are very bullish while hedgers are increasingly bearish. This tends to be bearish for oil prices over the intermediate term, which is why I said that the current rally might be overextended. However, after thinking about the fundamentals, I'm still bullish. I think we'll see $80 before we see $65 again. Keep in mind that precious metals continue to rally despite extreme bullishness among speculators. Hedgers are not always omniscient!
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby Chaparral » Tue 02 May 2006, 12:06:27

Yeah, i calculated 68.30 and I was anticipating getting out at say 6870 and whattya know it rings the bell at 7380 the next day. The peak oil cat is out of the bag and it's going to register on the markets. PO is all over the agriculture and trading forums now. I'm going to tread very carefully when it comes to shorting.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Wed 03 May 2006, 04:26:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chaparral', 'Y')eah, i calculated 68.30 and I was anticipating getting out at say 6870 and whattya know it rings the bell at 7380 the next day. The peak oil cat is out of the bag and it's going to register on the markets. PO is all over the agriculture and trading forums now. I'm going to tread very carefully when it comes to shorting.


The Asian Development Bank and others like the Saudis are saying that current oil prices unsustainably high, but those type of moral suasion comments are really hollow given that we have seen no curbing consumption or economic contraction from those higher prices.

In other words, even higher prices are needed to curb demand, and instead of letting the market do its job, US Congress are considering tax relief to help consumers keep buying! If they think $3 is pain, then how do they think the rest of the developed world lives with $5-6 equivalent?

Cannot remember who said it, will have to go back through the forums, but with the dollar falling and crude and metals up at or near 25-year highs it really does seem to be that the dollar was too strong and needed to correct lower. $1.2650 now against the euro, $1.8425 against Sterling and 113 yen to the dollar. Think the market will have $1.3000 in its sights now as well as 110 against the yen now. Poor Sterling is getting inflated despite having neither resources or manufacturing exports worth mentioning. The cost of being outside the eurozone I suppose.

See that Australia felt compelled to hike interest rates there to fight inflation, which is creeping higher on the back of higher energy and commodity prices. That seems to be the flavor of the moment. Strong global growth despite higher energy and commodity prices that is lifting inflation, and a lower US dollar, which is keeping energy and commodities supported.

The Brazilian farmers are crying now. Record soybean harvests, but the weaker dollar against the real is crimping profits as they get squeezed between higher input prices for energy and equipment and to service debt taken on 2-years ago when the dollar was stronger against the real. At the end of the day, we all speculate against the dollar whether we know it or not.

Well, another LATAM country succumbs to Chavez magical spell of nationalization. Bolivia rocked the markets with its decision to nationalize their natural gas markets by declaring legally negotiated contracts void. Very nice of them considering foreign firms, mainly Brazilian and European, have sunk close to $3 billion into exploration in the past decade to develop those fields. I am sure in the short-term this is a victory for the people, but in the medium term, the politicians will find it irresistable not to line their own pockets with resource money and to spend on projects to keep themselves elected. While in the long run ordinary Bolivians will not be any better off, and if past third world nationalizations are any guide (Pemex & PVDSA for example) over milking the cash cow while under investing in infrastructure and new development will ensure that they are indeed poorer when the cow runs dry. Argentina gets debt relief from Venezuela, but now has to pay more for natural gas due to nationalizations in next door Bolivia. You have to love the irony in that.

I hope that by the time they run out of money and are bankrupt I will be the Head of the World Bank, and when Geldof and Bono come to see me about getting some debt relief for the highly indebted countries like Chad, Sudan, Venezuela, Cuba, Nigeria and Bolivia, I can tell them to bugger off and take Susan Sheridan with them.

The peak oil cat may be out of the bag, but that means very little about finding any solutions. We (collectively) are still busy making the same mistakes with socialism and nationalization that we made in the 60/s & 70/s, and did not learn a damn thing from those expensive social experiments. And now that peak oil is knocking at the door we are going to waste another several decades going over the same unproductive ground as before. Twenty years from now another Iron Lady will be swept into power to deal with the resulting problems, but by that time we will be dealing with the economic fall-out and disruptions of post peak oil, and it will be too late to salvage much of our current prosperity. Kind of sad when you think of it. We are such fools because we never learn!

But back to black gold. Texas tea. Same pattern everyday it seems here? Strong rally in NY time zone on some more sabre rattling between Washington and Tehran, followed by some consolidation overnight, and Europe opens up looking like it might like to correct a little lower. However, invariably there is little follow through and up we go again.

Have to agree with those comments about the COTS charts. The industry players are quite happy it seems to keep selling short up at these levels, while the buying seems to be only fund related until we see $7000 copper, $700 gold, $100 crude, and then they will set their sights on $10.000 copper, $1000 gold and crude at $250! Why not? Until we see some contraction in demand? What Iran could not accomplish as a member of OPEC they seem determined to accomplish by becoming an international pariah. Does anyone think Israel is not going to bomb Tehran first, if they have to?

If it comes to that, Russia and China will have the blood on their hands just as much as anyone. I am actually (pleasantly) surprised to see France doing the right thing this time around? Normally, I would have seen them on the opposite side of the fence. I guess when it comes to nuclear confrontation even the French can remember who their true friends really are?

I figure that Russia is quite well insolated from the fall-out. They can still sell their oil & gas to Europe because Europe has no alternative. However, as China uses 4X the energy per unit of output as the OECD average and is a net importer, and as a full-blown conflict in the Middle East is going to cause oil to hit $100 a barrel, even as US consumers are squirming with $3 a gallon gasoline and higher interest rates on their personal debt, they are going to be caught in a nasty environment of expanding population dependent on overseas sales just as those exports fall victim to a classic cost-price squeeze and falling volumes, which is going to dash the hopes of all those 8-9 million peasants entering the workforce each year. They will probably need a political diversion to keep the People's attention off rioting in the streets? If I was Taiwanese, and there was a nasty civil/nuclear war in the Middle East and America's attention was diverted elsewhere, I might be quite uncomfortable with the One China policy.

But then again I have always believed that China likes failed states in the neighborhood like Myanmar and N. Korea. They are easier to assimilate once they are so poor they cannot feed themselves, and are totally reliant on food & energy imports from their generous benefactor and protector. Once China has Hong Kong, Taiwan, N. Korea and Myanmar under their thumb unopposed, then they might look to increase emmigration of Chinese nationals into the hinterlands of resource rich Russia, especially the area directly on their border near Vladivostok. Then they would have a good pretense to protect ethnic Chinese from any Russian discrimination. Does anyone remember Tibet? You have to take the long view on these things.

Boy, off on a lot of tangents today. I should be trading or at least writing a prospectus for an energy fund ahead of some meetings tomorrow with key investors. However, I am just hypnotized at the moment with all the implications of these high energy and commodity prices, a weaker dollar and geopolitical concerns. Peak oil indeed. It is not the end, but just the beginning of many interesting games. And these ringside seats are great for catching all the action.

Oops, off again. Sorry, really think crude is going to dip here today, but as said before, without follow through from NY it will just be a bear trap. Look for support on the daily charts at 13- & 21-day moving averages. Those should be good levels to buy until SOMETHING happens that might turn this train around? Meantime would look to sell crude at $7460/7475/7500 and put longer term buy orders in near $7310 and $7125 on a deeper dip, but only likely later this week, if we do not see higher levels first after today's inventory stock numbers. A small draw is forecasted, but it is all just a pretext to buy the Iran/Nigeria/Bolivia/Chad/Cesspool/Banana Republic geopolitical supply interuption story.

Good luck.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Wed 03 May 2006, 08:03:28

Metals comments by DRKW
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')arket comment
Gold: Higher again for gold after the May Day holidays as buyers came into commodities led by a number of factors – weaker USD, silver ETF participation, Iran threats to attack Israel on any US aggression over uranium enrichment, higher oil on geopolitical and supply concerns, and continued debate over rates and inflation potential. Trading cautiously up to the holiday highs of 662 in the morning, gold accelerated through resistance in the afternoon reaching highs of 667 and closing on those highs. Few sellers are
currently found and volatility remains firm although short term vols did not move higher again yesterday. There is little in the way of points between here and 700, with support so far found on the dips within the uptrend towards 650.

Silver: With volumes on the silver ETF still proving reasonably consistent, and investor interest in commodities continuing, silver prices resumed their upward path yesterday, looking for 14.70/75 highs from April this year. Momentum has turned higher again and although silver again approaches overbought territory after dipping towards oversold following the sharp sell offs, with most of that fall now reversed silver could well continue higher towards 15.00. Borrowing is again evident with the forwards moving sharply in thinner trading and nearby futures prices pushed back below spot prices. Support might be expected at 14.20, 14.00 and 13.20.

Platinum: The sharper 2-month uptrend continues in platinum with prices becoming more overbought. Corrections have followed such stretched levels in the past few months, although the dips have then found buying interest from the corporate sector at lower levels. The supportive commodity environment means that further tests higher cannot currently be ruled out.

Palladium: Also supported in the rally by ongoing speculative interest, perhaps with news of the end of Stillwater’s sales continuing to be a positive influence, palladium broke higher to reach recent resistance at 380, but crossed that threshold only today. Trading might be expected in line with platinum and silver.


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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Wed 03 May 2006, 10:45:20

Surprise builds in the crude & gasoline stocks helped to kick the legs out from the rally that was threatening $7500 and bidding the front month up in the gasoline.

Crude +1.7 mio to 346.7 mio bbls
Gasoline +2.1 mio to 202.7 mio bbls
Distillates -1.1 mio to 114.50 mio bbls
Refinery usage +0.6% to 88.8%

Imports 9.81 mbpd
Gasoline Demand unch'd to 9.13 mpbd
Distillate Demand -0.7% to 4.08 mbpd
Total Demand +1.5% to 20.50 mbpd


Move down to $7365/75 after the numbers, but no plunge. Think the market is too wary for that at this juncture. Have a nice evening and speak at you tomorrow.
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby Chaparral » Wed 03 May 2006, 12:21:07

CL-M06 is 7305 and falling. HUM06 is pushing the 21000 mark. I shorted two days too early. I was thinking (or was it desperately hoping?) of two words last night: Double Top!.

Regarding your comment on Soybeans, a good number of $400.00 a year subscription futures gurus here in the states have been bearish on soybeans on account of the massive oversupply, meanwhile the commercial hedgers are coppering them pretty badly by going into super large net long positions. I figure that with the move of the USD vs the Real, soybeans traded in Chicago could actually be a good 30 cents cheaper to overseas buyers then they are to domestic buyers. A number of analysts predicted that soybeans would bottom out at around $5.50 USD per bushel and while they did approach that in intraday trading one day last month, they've spent a good amount of time at 5.80 this month which is pretty darn close to 5.50 where Japanese buyers are concerned given the strength of the Yen. It is also interesting to note that Brazil is giving its farmers some debt relief so they won't have to sell the beans for $3.50 to $4.00 off the backs of their trucks, they can hold on to them and sell at a more favorable time. Relatively few of the analysts who collect $35.00 from me each month for their commentary have brought this up. Imagine the same thing working with energy commodities. I always heaped scorn on long-only traders and hell, I have fun being contrarian and shorting while everyone else is bullish but the USD is not a friend of the commodities bear.

If the USD craps 1.5% during a rally in crude, might what we predict as a Fib or Gann retracement need to take the currency movement into account and be accordingly adjusted upwards?
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby cube » Wed 03 May 2006, 14:08:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chaparral', 'D')ouble Top!.
and an evening star! unless my eyes are fooling me.

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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby CARVER » Wed 03 May 2006, 21:41:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'T')he peak oil cat may be out of the bag, but that means very little about finding any solutions. We (collectively) are still busy making the same mistakes with socialism and nationalization that we made in the 60/s & 70/s, and did not learn a damn thing from those expensive social experiments. And now that peak oil is knocking at the door we are going to waste another several decades going over the same unproductive ground as before. Twenty years from now another Iron Lady will be swept into power to deal with the resulting problems, but by that time we will be dealing with the economic fall-out and disruptions of post peak oil, and it will be too late to salvage much of our current prosperity. Kind of sad when you think of it. We are such fools because we never learn!


We are also still putting puppet governments in place, supporting and protecting the leaders and wealthy families. If we can't buy them, or fail to create a coup, we will try to assassinate or even invade. We open up the country to our big corporations, cause pollution and destruction to our benefit and that of the elite while hurting the many poor locals. Run them up in debt (to pay our corporations to do projects there) so we can milk them till eternity, and call it: aid (We convince/pay the leader to dig a hole for his country and we'll dig it for them to make sure it is deep enough for them not to be able to get out by themselves). And then expect that it will not bite us in the ass at the worst possible moment. Creating lots of hostility towards us in most of the countries with the resources we depend upon more and more each day, resulting in terrorism and all. We are fools indeed! And then we even think that we are the ones that should be compensated by Big Oil (because they destroyed some of our demand?), how sad is that?
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Re: Trader's Corner 2006

Unread postby MrBill » Thu 04 May 2006, 04:29:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CARVER', '
')We are also still putting puppet governments in place, supporting and protecting the leaders and wealthy families. If we can't buy them, or fail to create a coup, we will try to assassinate or even invade. We open up the country to our big corporations, cause pollution and destruction to our benefit and that of the elite while hurting the many poor locals. Run them up in debt (to pay our corporations to do projects there) so we can milk them till eternity, and call it: aid (We convince/pay the leader to dig a hole for his country and we'll dig it for them to make sure it is deep enough for them not to be able to get out by themselves). And then expect that it will not bite us in the ass at the worst possible moment. Creating lots of hostility towards us in most of the countries with the resources we depend upon more and more each day, resulting in terrorism and all. We are fools indeed! And then we even think that we are the ones that should be compensated by Big Oil (because they destroyed some of our demand?), how sad is that?


To be honest, I think that is a load of crap. Most countries are simply a mess because of corruption with or without any outside help. Clans, tribes, family politics, call it what you want. You never saw someone screw a Native Indian like another Native Indian over tribal politics and dividing the spoils of office. They do not need any outside help, they are pretty good at it themselves. Ditto for most politicians. Even where there are no differences to exploit, we seem to invent them. Take Republicans and Democrats for want of a better example. Basically both parties are tax & spend and while the voters get worked up about the differences between them, the politicians themselves are busy helping themselves to the pork. And politics in Canada or Japan or anywhere else does not get any better, just worse in some places like Italy for example. So take most poor countries and you will just find a lot of corruption with or without foreign companies. Guess I will just link this article on the Salomon Islands as an example. Too tired to fight much about this issue. So take it for what it is worth.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')HONIARA, May 3 (Reuters) - An abandoned gold mine in a jungle in the Solomon Islands, one of the richest veins in the South Pacific but shut due to ethnic violence, could be a lifeline for the troubled nation.
The government hopes the Gold Ridge mine, expected to resume gold production by end-2007, could spark vital investment and create jobs in an impoverished nation where just 9 percent of people are formally employed.
Finance Minister Peter Boyers said the youth of the Solomons, half the island's 500,000-strong population, need a future if the chain of 992 islands is to end the cycle of instability.
"These youth want a vision and some sort of hope that they are going to have a future, whether it's formal or informal -- it's our responsibility to create it," Boyers told Reuters in an interview at parliament house in the capital, Honiara.
Companies such as Japan's Sumitomo Metal Mining had shown interest in nickel and cobalt exploration, he said.
For most of this decade, political risk has plagued the Solomons, a nation with rich gold veins, possible offshore oil and gas, and nickel and cobalt deposits hidden under its jungles.
A new prime minister is to be chosen in a secret ballot in parliament on Thursday, after the election of deputy prime minister Snyder Rini as leader sparked riots, fuelled by rumours that his government was influenced by local Chinese businessmen.
Rini resigned after days of riots targeting the tiny Chinese business community in Honiara, but leaving foreign troops and police patrolling the streets -- an image the Solomons fears will hinder foreign investment.
The political instability has continued since April when voters ousted half the parliament in a national election dominated by corruption, expecting a new government to emerge.
The Solomons was rocked by a coup in 2000 and was on the brink of bankruptcy and collapse in 2003 due to ethnic fighting, forcing neighbouring South Pacific nations to send peacekeepers.
Peace was restored, but there was little economic recovery in the past three years, leaving many in the 500,000 population angry at what they see as continuing political corruption.

JUNGLE MINE
Dense lantana weeds cover rusted earth-moving equipment at the Gold Ridge mine, an hour and a half's drive from Honiara.
Worker camps and tool sheds are barely visible through the dense tropical foliage. Only a handful of squatters now pan the pitted moonscape in search of gold dust.
Australian Solomons Gold (ASG) was granted rights to rehabilitate the mine two years ago. The company's chief operating officer, Mike Christie, said there had been delays to the project, the price of doing business in the Solomons.
When ASG, about 40 percent owned by Australian miner Michelago Ltd., completed the ownership deal for the mine in May last year, the company had aimed to be producing gold by the end of 2006, but that target has now been pushed back a year.
Before the warring factions in the province overran the mine and chased workers off with machetes in 2000, Gold Ridge was yielding 150,000 ounces of gold annually, making it one of the biggest lodes in the region behind neighbouring Papua New Guinea.
ASG plans to mine about 120,000 ounces of gold annually when it starts operations late next year.
Gold bullion sells for as much as $636 an ounce on exchanges half a world away in New York and London, more than double the bullion price when the mine closed six years ago.
Boyers said the Solomons, which relies on aid for 70 percent of its budget, has worked hard to restart the mine, offering tax and duty exemptions.
"We're basically going to lose a considerable amount of revenue through that," said Boyers, declining to give a specific figure. "But that's a sacrifice the government's taking to get that industry moving in the hope that further mines might open."
Australian Solomons Gold, which plans to list on the Australian Stock Exchange with an initial public offering by mid-2006, hopes to employ up to 600 people at Gold Ridge.
Christie said three percent of the expected annual revenue from Gold Ridge of SB$600 million ($78 million) would be split between the government and local landowners.
"You don't have to go too far out of Honiara to find there's little or no clean water supply. Sanitation is an issue, along with schools, and road transport," Christie told Reuters.
"Gold Ridge can set an example in which projects can invest and prosper in the Solomon Islands and in such a way that the benefits are shared," he said.
($1=SB$7.60)


Just a bunch of locals fighting for control over the spoils even if that means less for everyone. Even if a foreign company comes in and improves the situation for a while, it just leaves more for them to fight over later. You cannot win. If you do nothing, you're ignoring the plight of the poor. If you try to help them, you're exploiting them.

Nothing to do with protecting the rights of the wealthy or the elite. Which in my mind is some sort of empty strawman argument. On one hand we are supposed to respect other countries sovereignty even if they engage in genocide and ethnic cleansing. On the otherhand, if we do business with their elected leaders (rightly, wrongly, with or without corruption and vote rigging) we are somehow propping up puppet regimes?
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