[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('veliger', 'I') really hate to burst your bubble, but your 1990 VW emits far more pollution than the 2006 Tahoe. Your VW emits less Carbon obviously due to its higher MPG. But, it emits far more acid rain forming NOx, and smog forming CO so it is far worse for air quality than any brand new SUV. The 2006 Tahoe is rated 16/22 C/H in 2WD, and 15/21 in the 4WD version. That's the best MPG in the class for both versions.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '.').. it was so calm and fact oriented ...

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ot bad as a retaliatory, face-saving b-slap but the original one was really good because it was so calm and fact oriented and deflated the original poster's inflated sense of righteousnees and self-congratulatory joy, at least as expressed via the post.

[MyOtherID]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '.').. it was so calm and fact oriented ...

[falser]

Sorry to be prejudiced, but they are specifically targeting fat patriotic Americans who laugh in the face of high oil prices, make fun of environmentalists, require the extra roomy seats, voted for Bush, and are still convinced Saddam is giving WMD to Al Qaeda. These are the only people still buying American cars.

[eastbay]

Sorry to be prejudiced, but they are specifically targeting fat patriotic Americans who laugh in the face of high oil prices, make fun of environmentalists, require the extra roomy seats, voted for Bush, and are still convinced Saddam is giving WMD to Al Qaeda. These are the only people still buying American cars.

Excellent falser!! I could add 'fast-food chomping, meat-eating, war-loving, bad-at-math drop-out types to that wonderful prejudiced list you so elegantly started. I mean, who is really buying those terribly lousy mileage and rediculous-looking SUV's and other American-made cars anyhow?

And it's such a darn shame too because the incredible creative talent is no doubt available to those at the top of the Big Three. But for some reason (conspiracy buffs are invited to take a whack at this) they seem to be intentionally taking measures to destroy the US auto industry instead of innovating for what is obviously coming down the pike.

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MyOtherID', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '.').. it was so calm and fact oriented ...

[veliger]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '[')i]Sorry to be prejudiced, but they are specifically targeting fat patriotic Americans who laugh in the face of high oil prices, make fun of environmentalists, require the extra roomy seats, voted for Bush, and are still convinced Saddam is giving WMD to Al Qaeda. These are the only people still buying American cars.

Excellent falser!! I could add 'fast-food chomping, meat-eating, war-loving, bad-at-math drop-out types to that wonderful prejudiced list you so elegantly started. I mean, who is really buying those terribly lousy mileage and rediculous-looking SUV's and other American-made cars anyhow?

And it's such a darn shame too because the incredible creative talent is no doubt available to those at the top of the Big Three. But for some reason (conspiracy buffs are invited to take a whack at this) they seem to be intentionally taking measures to destroy the US auto industry instead of innovating for what is obviously coming down the pike.

[MyOtherID]

I love reading these intellectually bankrupt patriotic posts about American SUVs. I feel I'm living in history as it is happening, watching something doomed to die but still twisting and shouting in its own defence. It reminds me of another time ...

[gary_malcolm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('veliger', '
')This silly "Toyota and Honda good, GM and Ford bad", view the wacky, greenie left has of the Auto industry is beyond silly, it's just plain wrong.

[cheaplaughs2]

My other ID; All your post reminded me of was the'' VOLKSWAGON BUG''
So what now anyone who likes an american car is A dying nazi.And NO
the japanese cars dont remind me of pearl harbour.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cheaplaughs2', 'A')nd NO
the japanese cars dont remind me of pearl harbour.

[FairMaiden]

Killjoy, if you want to "do without" then buy yourself a bicycle...someone overpaid for your van when it was new...

[Russian_Cowboy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IslandCrow', '
')I drive a Lada

[sameu]

i've read that gm wil stop producing the hummer H1
their biggest model

maybe if you're quick you can still get your hands on one

[gnm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'S')crew the Hummer! I'm going motorhome shopping tonight!

[whereagles]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'R')ichard Hienberg put it best that a barrel of oil can put out more energy than a human working hard for an entire year. Think about how much energy is contained in a single gallon of gas. If a 180 pound human runs up nine flights of steps in minute then that would be about one horsepower. In human terms think how much power a 200 horsepower car uses cruising down the highway at 75mph. In one minute the car expended more energy then an entire football team practicing hard for three hours. A minimum wage earner can work only 35 minutes to buy a gallon of gas that will outpout more energy then his own body could in a month. This wonderful substance should be the most valuable commodity on the face of the earth. Oil is three times more energy dense than TNT. Even $1000 for a barrel of oil in today's money is an out right steal.

[mgibbons19]

A fit average cyclist has about .5 horsepower. On a light bike cruising, that might be a sustainable 25 mph (might be).

Just FYI.

[whereagles]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', 'A') fit average cyclist has about .5 horsepower. On a light bike cruising, that might be a sustainable 25 mph (might be).

Just FYI.