[Jenab]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Snowrunner', 'O')h, now I get it, there aren't ENOUGH guns out there yet!"

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('trespam', 'W')hy do you guys want to hang here without saying something like: let's shut this site down, let's stop posting, until people like this go away. A community could do this. A community--which so many of you talk about--could do this.

[jmacdaddio]

The chaos in NO is making me seriously consider acquiring firearms or at the very least, learning how to use them. I had a feeling there would be chaos, but I was stunned at how quickly an American city turned into Somalia.

Right now where I live the McMansion crowd is up in arms over gas prices (wait until heating bills arrive this winter) and I don't anticipate unrest - they're too busy keeping up with the Joneses and ferrying kids to activities. Will they turn to violence once they can no longer afford groceries? I don't see why they wouldn't after a few weeks of desperation -- which is why I need to start tracking down a gun club.

[Phil]

Good posts Jenab.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('trespam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'H')old it a minute, that photo may not be what it seems. Notice at the upper corners, two ppl there wearing full Army kit, not something gangbangers wear. The white guy in the center of the photo is either in bad shape or has died, but if you look closely, those don't look like his killers, rather his rescuers.

[I_Like_Plants]

I have found studies by whom can only be called "lefty-libs" showing that racial diversity results in an absolute plummeting of social cohesiveness. I think class diversity results in this too but to a lesser degree, Saint Richard Dawkins explains why.
But, in that photo, the blacks appear to be helping the white guy, or helping load the white body onto a truck. You don't have enough to judge on, except that it is NOT a scene of gangbanger predation.
That being said, I'd have left NO long ago, say it with me now whatever your color, Life Sucks Without Mein Volk!

[RainShadow]

Was flipping through Google news, and spotted this in a couple places. For everybody who would have walked out of New Orleans:
"People trying to walk out are forced back at gunpoint - something troops said was for their own safety. "It's sad, but how far do you think they would get," one soldier said."
Reuters AlertNet
We still don't know 1/10th of what life has been like there the past week.

[DoctorDoom]

By what right does the government stop people from walking out of the area?

[EnemyCombatant]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ill die from multiculturalism, which causes social cohesion to break down in crises. With sufficient racial mixing, social cohesion doesn't exist even in good times.

[EnemyCombatant]

One more point.

What about inter-racial marriages. They are on the increase. Are these people just freaks of nature?

[Petro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'O')ne more point.
What about inter-racial marriages. They are on the increase. Are these people just freaks of nature?

[EnemyCombatant]

Nope, just two people fall in love.

Bennetton and McDonalds can't make people do that, at least not yet.

[ozkrenske]

ahh, uuummm.

Let me put this nicely. Is there a massive sub concious level of racism showing through here or what. I believe what many people in the Us think of as Multiculturalism is more what I would call ghettoism. Socially expected cultural groupings into disadvantaged neighborhoods. These ghetto's cause crime not due to race but more because of the economic disadvantage. Effectively it has always hapened when new comers are forced to live together and have less money. Look at the crime in the early Irish, Italian, polish, Asian etc areas. These races are today not considered criminals as a whole ( although they were in the past ). What has changed is now tey are integrated and no longer living in the lowest strata's of society.

I may be a little unusual ( Scots / German / German / German Grandparents) in that I live in a nice quiet area of a city in Australia that just so happens to have a lovely mix of people in it. I guess I would call it multiculturalism. But I just don't notice. From my window I can see a bunch of people going about their sunday, on a for once, cool early spring day. I can see the nice greek family, the nice German grandparents, the lovely Sudanese family, the very nice Morrocans. I have been to all these peoples places, eaten with them and had them to BBQ's etc. The people I am concerned about are the drunken Anglo family across the road, and the not so nice anglo family diagonally across the way(seriously too much speed in their lifestyle). Over my back fence are two nice couples both mixed marriage one Anglo/Asian one, the other Lebanese/Aboriginal.

That is multiculturalism. A mix of people living together. Not blocks or suburbs of same culture people. The only crime we have had is imported into the area or domestic across the road. We do have racially based crime in Australia but it tends to be when a large number of disadvantaged people choose to live directly next to each other in 'comforting' racial groups. The Crime is not because of race but rather because everyone in the area is poor/unemployed.

I have a strong liking for variance and can say I do dislike certain people but never have I hated a racial group. I did for about 2 years dislike Arabic people a lot, but then I realised it was more due to my general unhealth while touring Egypt and being treated like a tourist. Then I spent a few days thinking about it and realised it wasn't everyone it was mainly just the way I was feeling for the second half of the period I was there mixed with the 'Baksheesh' attitude of many. While I was there, I had had quite a few nice days in coffee shops, getting fleeced at domino's, wandering markets etc, I had simply forgotten all the nice stuff.

I just see a lot of very nasty language and comments about racial groups from out US participants especially in the last week. I think we need a nice disaster in a nice economically depressed white area of the US so that we can see clearly it is not race but economics and opportunity at work in this looting.

By the way, A white couple steal a pickup truck and drive out of NO's by themselves and get called inventive and proactive. A very nice non violent aquisition of an abandoned bus by a black teenager who then drives 60+ people from the area all the way to houston, where they were told they would find comfort, sees him initially arrested for looting. The attitude always seems to be, black is evil, white is good. Sickening.

[Petro]

Ah, well subtle...influences are nowadays. I remember back in the early seventies, when two people, one black, the other, white, stood up and said
they had been abducted by aliens. I though, 'how corageous...inter-racial; and speaking of aliens..." In love no doubt. Againts the rules...no question. Yet, then, there wasn't a 'die whittie...let brown rule for awhile', sort of theme to things.

[Petro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ozkrenske', 'a')hh, uuummm.
Let me put this nicely. Is there a massive sub concious level of racism showing through here or what. I believe what many people in the Us think of as Multiculturalism is more what I would call ghettoism. ...
By the way, A white couple steal a pickup truck and drive out of NO's by themselves and get called inventive and proactive. A very nice non violent aquisition of an abandoned bus by a black teenager who then drives 60+ people from the area all the way to houston, where they were told they would find comfort, sees him initially arrested for looting. The attitude always seems to be, black is evil, white is good. Sickening.

[EnemyCombatant]

As much as I hate Bush, refer to my handle and avatar, I don't believe he's a racist.

I think he hates all of us equally.

[Petro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'A')s much as I hate Bush, refer to my handle and avatar, I don't believe he's a racist.
I think he hates all of us equally.

[formandfile]

Actually whenever i hear the term 'multiculturalism' what usually comes to mind are extremely poor, racially homogeneous neighborhoods, geographically and physically isolated from everywhere else, with its own rules, structure, economy, etc. Little social interaction with others and little intergration with 'society at large'. Think the neighborhoods the london tubes bombers supposedly were from.

That sort of isolation is a recipe for disaster, in any country. In US cities especially you more often than not see densely crowded pockets of dirt poor. Housing projects and social services are all concentrated in specific areas. If you are constantly surrounded by poverty 24/7, i think your chances of pulling yourself out of it are pretty grim. I think urban housing patterns have a good deal to do with the problems aforementioned on this thread...

[I_Like_Plants]

I've read a little of MonteQuest's blog and the teaspoon I tasted was pure genius. To whit, the idea of life as dodgeball. You don't get to choose what team you're on. You end up on a team and you fight like hell for your team, you learn to. (Yeah, it *is* kinda brutal with volleyballs, come to think of it, and that's the only kind of ball we knew to use back in those days lol!!)

Those idealistic whites who marched in the 1960s wised up and fast.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'I')'ve read a little of MonteQuest's blog and the teaspoon I tasted was pure genius. To whit, the idea of life as dodgeball. You don't get to choose what team you're on. You end up on a team and you fight like hell for your team, you learn to. (Yeah, it *is* kinda brutal with volleyballs, come to think of it, and that's the only kind of ball we knew to use back in those days lol!!)
Those idealistic whites who marched in the 1960s wised up and fast.