Donate Bitcoin

Donate Paypal


PeakOil is You

PeakOil is You

THE Mad Max Scenario Thread (merged)

What's on your mind?
General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 03:39:23

Petro you need to read a book called The Culture Of Critique by Kevin McDonald, professor at cal state long beach, yes interracial marriages are being pushed faster than they'd happen otherwise and for a definate agenda. If you're going to rule a people, it's much easier if you can divide them up and ruin their cohesiveness. McDonald's books show Who, Where, What, When and Why, they are "must" reading and you can get them on Amazon.
I_Like_Plants
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 3839
Joined: Sun 12 Jun 2005, 03:00:00
Location: 1st territorial capitol of AZ

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby Petro » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 10:05:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'P')etro you need to read a book called The Culture Of Critique by Kevin McDonald, professor at cal state long beach, yes interracial marriages are being pushed faster than they'd happen otherwise and for a definate agenda. If you're going to rule a people, it's much easier if you can divide them up and ruin their cohesiveness. McDonald's books show Who, Where, What, When and Why, they are "must" reading and you can get them on Amazon.

Yeah, I do appreciate you pointing those references out. I understand that agenda. From some perspectives, it makes sense to want a world this way. Maybe, they're right. What do I know. I just get tired of this global guilt. But all this is [way] off topic me thinks.
User avatar
Petro
Lignite
Lignite
 
Posts: 349
Joined: Thu 14 Oct 2004, 03:00:00

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby NTBKtrader » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 10:44:43

I'm curious... Why does everyone care about the black people in NO but no one cares about the poor white people in Mississippi that got the brunt of the storm. Is it because they didn't riot and loot or what? Do people have to riot in order to get positive attention and help from the media/government?

Part of my family is in MS and no one in the media/gov/ even on this message board seems to give a shit about them..why?
User avatar
NTBKtrader
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 600
Joined: Tue 19 Oct 2004, 03:00:00

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby NTBKtrader » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 10:50:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NTBKtrader', 'I')'m curious... Why does everyone care about the black people in NO but no one cares about the poor white people in Mississippi that got the brunt of the storm. Is it because they didn't riot and loot or what? Do people have to riot in order to get positive attention and help from the media/government?
Part of my family is in MS and no one in the media/gov/ even on this message board seems to give a shit about them..why?

wow i found an ap article that addresses this issue link
people in MS are just as poor, devastated, and lacking food and water! help them too damnit!
User avatar
NTBKtrader
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 600
Joined: Tue 19 Oct 2004, 03:00:00

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby Leanan » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 10:59:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')art of my family is in MS and no one in the media/gov/ even on this message board seems to give a shit about them..why?

My theory, at least as far as this board goes: no oil there.
User avatar
Leanan
News Editor
News Editor
 
Posts: 4582
Joined: Thu 20 May 2004, 03:00:00

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby Petro » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 11:08:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')art of my family is in MS and no one in the media/gov/ even on this message board seems to give a shit about them..why?

My theory, at least as far as this board goes: no oil there.

LOL Damn! I thought I was a cynic :)
User avatar
Petro
Lignite
Lignite
 
Posts: 349
Joined: Thu 14 Oct 2004, 03:00:00
Top

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby richardmmm » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 11:18:33

It all boils down to this really: link
I finally found a page that spells it out, clearly without being crazed mad mad conspiracy theories.
User avatar
richardmmm
Lignite
Lignite
 
Posts: 205
Joined: Sat 20 Aug 2005, 03:00:00

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby chris-h » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 12:04:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', ' ')showing that racial diversity results in an absolute plummeting of social cohesiveness.

Its economic exploitation of a difference race that causes the plummeting of social cohesiveness not racial diversity.
In other words if those black had the same median income as the average american citizen those things would not have happened.
88822-88822=0
chris-h
Coal
Coal
 
Posts: 414
Joined: Mon 11 Oct 2004, 03:00:00
Top

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby EnemyCombatant » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 12:34:06

I still disagree.

Middle class and upper middle class white boys 'wild'. They rape and vandalize. They just have good attorneys.

People are people.
Now why didn't I take the blue pill.
User avatar
EnemyCombatant
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 854
Joined: Wed 16 Mar 2005, 04:00:00

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby Budmeister » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 16:36:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('chris-h', ' ')In other words if those black had the same median income as the average american citizen those things would not have happened.

{Deleted due to inflammatory comments by MQ}
Its easier to go around a barking dog then it is to pry his teeth out of your crotch.
User avatar
Budmeister
Wood
Wood
 
Posts: 33
Joined: Sat 12 Mar 2005, 04:00:00
Top

Video: Police looting day after Katrina hit, link

Unread postby NTBKtrader » Sun 04 Sep 2005, 22:37:08

User avatar
NTBKtrader
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 600
Joined: Tue 19 Oct 2004, 03:00:00

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby gg3 » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 04:11:54

richardmmm, care to spell out for us what's on that webpage...?
I live & work in the San Francisco Bay Area, California USA.
Every day I hear so many different accents on the street that I used to joke that the UN was around the corner. I hear white kids talking in a "black" accent, and black kids talking in a "white" accent. Two of my friends speak Chinese as well as English; one because he was born there, the other, because he learned the language in the Army. I've programmed voicemail systems for companies whose employees come from all over the globe: notably software engineers from India, Mexico, and Russia. Very quickly I learned to ask, as I set up voicemailboxes for these folks, "Can you spell your last name for me, and then show me how to pronounce it?" regardless of who I was talking to, because there was no way to predict who was from where.

Panasonic now issues its high-end voicemail system with something like eight or ten languages on the programming CD, and the systems can use three to five of these actively at one time. This very weekend I'm programming a system for bilingual menus.
And all of this richness of races, ethnicities, cultures, and languages in the Bay Area, all of it works. We don't have race riots here. And the only agenda that seems to be going on between inter-racial couples is that they're madly in love. One of the guys on my crew is as white as they get: blond hair, blue eyes, northern Euro heritage. His partner is black. And their baby daughter is tan, and she's as cute as any other baby I've ever seen. (And if anyone here is burning mad about this guy "wasting" his "Aryan" genes, read the following section and look at yourself in the mirror!)

About ten years ago I had a very interesting experience. I was asking my parents about my ancestors. I used to think it was pretty simple: Irish on Dad's side, Italian on Mom's side. But when I asked a few simple questions, I got some very interesting answers. Dad's side was in turn Irish on one side and Scots/English on the other. Mom's side was in turn Italian and Brazilian. (Technically the latter makes me LatinoAmericano! With an Irish last name no less!)
I'll never forget how I reacted to all of that news. I looked at my hands in amazement, as if I was looking at someone else's hands, and I was awe-struck at how much more of the world -three more countries at least- was in me than I had ever guessed.
Well for all you racists on this board, I have a surprise for you. If you do a little digging into your own ancestry, most of you will discover something very interesting. And maybe you'll have the cojones to admit in public what you find out in private.
It's like this about Americans. We're all mongrels, wonderful mix-breeds brought together not by "identity politics," but by an ideal and an aspiration; a nation founded not on an illusion of bloodlines and petty feuds among them, but on the premise that ALL men and women are created equal, and endowed by their CREATOR (God and/or Nature as you choose) with certain inalienable rights.

Liberty, equality, and justice under law are what have brought forth the world's multitudes to settle here, and in doing so they have mongrelized most thoroughly and our culture has been enriched thereby.
And, as it is with dogs, mongrels compared to purebreeds, being mongrels makes us stronger.
Woof!
User avatar
gg3
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 3271
Joined: Mon 24 May 2004, 03:00:00
Location: California, USA

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby tokyo_to_motueka » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 04:44:20

gg3, i'm with you on this one.
seems like a lot of people's attitudes int he US haven't changed since the Civil War.
"different races mixing together will just cause trouble" seems to be the brainwashed belief prevalent in big parts of your country.
not to say there isn't hatred stirred up in other places for various ends---Yugoslavia, Rwanda, etc., etc.
it's all about power and control, and especially manipulation.
i come from NZ and there is an election campaign going on right now.
plenty of powerful people wanting to exploit fears--divide and rule, demonise the "other".
same old same old.
User avatar
tokyo_to_motueka
Coal
Coal
 
Posts: 486
Joined: Tue 19 Oct 2004, 03:00:00
Location: Tochigi

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 06:03:15

The bay area is very, very, artificial. Almost all of it is insanely expensive to live in, and so the poor are washed right out, they've left or are leaving. "Poor" in the bay area means you make less than $50k a year. There are some pockets of poor, Bayview-Hunter's Point, Oakland, central/south San Jose, East Palo Alto, all with very high murder rates. They're mostly encapsulated and there are forces for gentrifying these areas, for instance there's a move afoot to rename East Palo Alto "Ravenswood" and gentrify the hell out of it. I live in a so-so neighborhood, and have seen some pretty aggressive panhandling, had shootings a street over, etc - interestingly all by blacks. I have also met, and given $$ to, panhandlers who were polite, and one knew one-heck-of-a-lot about computers and servers! Interestingly, those polite ones have so far always been white. Wierd.

Most of the Bay area is middle-class, highly educated, the cream of the crop from where they migrated in from. Yes I expect the bay area to handle catastrophe well, although you'd not want to be in or near one of the aforementioned bad areas.
I_Like_Plants
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 3839
Joined: Sun 12 Jun 2005, 03:00:00
Location: 1st territorial capitol of AZ

Re: The Superdome, A sign of things to come

Unread postby richardmmm » Mon 05 Sep 2005, 06:18:34

I think Anne Rice, author of the vampire books, made the best comments about the farcical efforts made in helping out New Orleans: MSNBC
You want our Jazz Fest, you want our Mardi Gras, you want our cooking and our music," she continued. "Then when you saw us in real trouble, when you saw a tiny minority preying on the weak among us, you called us 'Sin City,' and turned your backs."

And............John Grisham the author donates $5M from his personal funds...........whilst some major oil companies with multi billion dollar profits offer less..............it's a joke..........
The link I posted is about how a small cabal which basically verges on being demonic (destructive, evil and without morals), controls and makes decisions in regard to everything, especially oil.

Everytime I have researched a war I have found oil behind it. The last piece of the puzzle fell into place today, when found some histroy of Vietnam. In the 1940s they discovered large oil reserves off the coast. So arms were diverted to the Viet Cong, so they could revolt against the french and boot them out. Once that was achieved, they went back on the deal so then the US had to send it's own troops in...........basically the whole thing was setup so Stanard Oil could get it's hands on the best reserves over there.
User avatar
richardmmm
Lignite
Lignite
 
Posts: 205
Joined: Sat 20 Aug 2005, 03:00:00

Judge throws out charges on 'Mad Max' enthusiasts

Unread postby UncoveringTruths » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 12:20:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t was an ending befitting a Hollywood movie or, in this case, a re-enactment for a cult classic.
A judge last week threw out misdemeanor charges of obstructing a highway against 13 defendants who in April were arrested after they convoyed from Boerne to the Alamo Draft House in far West San Antonio in homage to the movie "Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior."
County Court-at-Law No. 8 Judge Karen Crouch dismissed the charges after a prosecutor said the case lacked sufficient evidence.
The defendants were arrested in April after authorities received several calls from motorists near U.S. 151 and Loop 410 who said they spotted the convoy, which included several vehicles riding alongside a tanker truck.

Judge throws out charges on 'Mad Max' enthusiastsregistration required
:roll:
It's a cold cold world when a man has to pawn his shoes.
User avatar
UncoveringTruths
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 887
Joined: Thu 04 Nov 2004, 04:00:00
Top

Re: Judge throws out charges on 'Mad Max' enthusiasts

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 12:28:13

LMAO! Perfect.

I love Alamo Draft House.
"It's called the American Dream because you'd have to be asleep to believe it."

George Carlin
User avatar
emersonbiggins
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 5150
Joined: Sun 10 Jul 2005, 03:00:00
Location: Dallas

Re: Judge throws out charges on 'Mad Max' enthusiasts

Unread postby dissimulo » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 16:26:52

Must have been Aaron out on some practice runs with the Reapers.
User avatar
dissimulo
Lignite
Lignite
 
Posts: 348
Joined: Wed 01 Jun 2005, 03:00:00

Re: Judge throws out charges on 'Mad Max' enthusiasts

Unread postby hoplite » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 19:32:51

"Burning Man" escapes the playa...
User avatar
hoplite
Lignite
Lignite
 
Posts: 277
Joined: Fri 22 Oct 2004, 03:00:00

"My Mad Max friend"

Unread postby Colorado-Valley » Mon 13 Feb 2006, 16:17:58

I wrote this column the other day for our local magazine:
My Mad Max Friend By Don Olsen Valley Chronicle
I have a friend — I’ll call him Max — who’s completely convinced that the world’s love affair with cars and petroleum is about to take it down the road to apocalyptic ruin.
“We’re toast,” he says matter-of-factly one morning over coffee, “we’re going 60 miles per hour and the brick wall is right in front of our windshield.”
As you can imagine, Max really brings a cheery note to the coffee-shop conversation. But truth be told, he’s a thoughtful and amusing guy who just happens to study the world energy markets a lot. If you want to know the technical production prospects for say, the giant Ghawar field in Saudi Arabia, this guy’s your perfect techno-nerd. “When the Ghawar goes into depletion, so does the world,” he says. And he believes that day’s not too far off.

Max grew up on a fruit ranch in western Colorado, and like most people raised on farms or ranches, he’s always paid attention to resources and where they come from. To a city dweller, a drought might mean less lawn watering. To a farmer, it’s a life-changing situation. Six-dollar-a-gallon diesel is not a good thing if you’re trying to feed Ameica’s suburbs.
Seeing that the government has had no interest since the days of Jimmy Carter in preparing for the end of oil, Max has spent the past five years making a plan for himself and his family. He just finished a huge root cellar that can double as a fortified hide-out, and if you ask him about what kind of weapons he has, he just smiles as says, “ask me which ones I don’t have.”
Max, whose political beliefs would be considered liberal, environmentalist and Democrat, never the less hopes that the Bush administration will quickly declare martial law and seal off western cities if the country enters an oil crisis. That way, he figures, people who live out on farms and ranches who’ve prepared for the worst won’t be overrun by starving masses looking for food.

As I said, conversations with Max are always cheerful.
I talk till I’m blue in the face about how alternative energy can be used to replace oil, but Max calmly shoots down every scenario — since he’s studied them all and says there’s simply no way to feed six and a half billion people and still have all the cars and machines that drive the industrial economy in continuous, exponential growth. Solar and wind? Too little energy, too intermittent. Nuclear? Plants take years to build and are expensive and dangerous. Hydrogen? It’s a joke, he laughs. It’s not even an energy source, it’s only a storage battery, with no infrastructure to distribute it and no cars that can run on it. Oil shale, tar sands, biodiesel, ethanol? “They’re hard to scale, but they might work if you don’t mind paying $10 a gallon to fuel your Ford Explorer,” he says.

I later do some research, and conventional wisdom is that peak oil is still 10 to 20 years away. But some experts, like Matthew Simmons, a Houston oil-services investor, believe we’re already on the cusp of Hubbert’s Peak, and the rest of the century is going to be all downhill.
So are Max and his doomer friends mad? I have no idea. But after talking to him, I decided to pull out my old .22 and do some target practice. If nothing else I can shoot a few rabbits and make a nice stew as the world slowly collapses back into the 19th Century. Maybe I’ll even raise a few extra potatos and carrots, too, just to be on the safe side.
User avatar
Colorado-Valley
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 729
Joined: Mon 16 Aug 2004, 03:00:00

PreviousNext

Return to Open Topic Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

cron