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Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby Outcast_Searcher » Mon 11 Mar 2019, 01:20:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'Y')es, and you make zero content posts when you get cranky, everyone knows that.

If you don’t like his posting style then just ignore his posts.

Outcast, ditto. I understand the big red font issue is annoying. I tolerate it because I find the content valuable. If it annoyed me enough I would simply avoid the thread. He is not making ad hominem’s and calling names.

You're right. It's just the usual "pretend something that isn't global doom is" for kicks or FUD or whatever, that seems so much like so many other folks, that I just get tired of it.

Obviously it's real news, and is a real concern for the Congo area.

But for the first world in general, flu is a much bigger concern.
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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby Newfie » Mon 11 Mar 2019, 07:47:02

Why pay attention to Ebola?

1.If Ebola takes off within Africa then there may be a mass exodus/migration.

2. Ebola has in the past morphed from a liquid transmission to a air transmission in research chimps in Reston (?) VA. Fortunately that strainndid not infect humans. If it morphs into a human air form then it could be a different game, much faster transmission rates, harder to control.

Just something to keep an eye upon.
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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby M_B_S » Sun 17 Mar 2019, 13:57:42

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/16/heal ... o-cdc.html

Ebola Epidemic in Congo Could Last Another Year, C.D.C. Director Warns
Returning from a trip to the Democratic Republic of Congo, the agency chief also worried that vaccine supplies could run out.


March 16, 2019

The Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo is not under control and could continue for another year, Dr. Robert R. Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said in an interview on Friday.

“Let’s not underestimate this outbreak,” he said.

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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby onlooker » Mon 18 Mar 2019, 10:04:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'W')hy pay attention to Ebola?

1.If Ebola takes off within Africa then there may be a mass exodus/migration.

2. Ebola has in the past morphed from a liquid transmission to a air transmission in research chimps in Reston (?) VA. Fortunately that strainndid not infect humans. If it morphs into a human air form then it could be a different game, much faster transmission rates, harder to control.

Just something to keep an eye upon.

Yes for the time being it is a regional issue. But could become global one
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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby M_B_S » Thu 21 Mar 2019, 03:12:51

https://m.dw.com/en/ebola-outbreak-spre ... a-48002118

Ebola spreads to new city with 1million people. Alarm!
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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby M_B_S » Sun 24 Mar 2019, 18:17:36

DRC’s Ebola outbreak reaches 1,000 confirmed cases
https://reliefweb.int/report/democratic ... rmed-cases
Published on 24 Mar 2019
24 March 2019 – Goma, DR Congo. The deadly Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo, declared on 1 August 2018, has reached 1,000 cases. This is the second worst outbreak of Ebola in recorded history, after the 2014 outbreak in West Africa, which killed 11,000 people.

“Sadly, DR Congo’s Ebola outbreak, which started in Nord Kivu and has spread to Ituri Province, has marked 1,000 confirmed cases, making it the most disastrous Ebola outbreak in the country’s history,” says Thomas Simon, Country Director at Medair, an international NGO that has worked in DR Congo for 22 years. “If transmission of the disease does not end soon, it could spark the collapse of an already very fragile health system.”
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Possible: in three months we could see 10000 cases and 6000 deaths in six ~ 200.000 cases 100.000 deaths :!:

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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby M_B_S » Fri 29 Mar 2019, 18:53:25

New Ebola cases @15 per day.
https://www.euronews.com/2019/03/29/con ... in-one-day

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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby M_B_S » Tue 09 Apr 2019, 16:51:16

https://reliefweb.int/report/democratic ... tuation-51
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1. Situation update

The recent escalation in the number of Ebola virus disease (EVD) cases continues in the North Kivu provinces of the Democratic Republic of the Congo. This past week saw 65 new confirmed cases reported in the last seven days, predominantly from the areas of Katwa, Mandima, Butembo, and Vuhovi. During the last 21 days (18 March to 7 April 2019), 58 health areas within 13 health zones reported new cases; 42% of the 137 health areas affected to date (Table 1 and Figure 2). During this period, a total of 199 confirmed cases were reported from Katwa (69), Vuhovi (36), Mandima (30), Beni (18), Butembo (16), Masereka (13), Oicha (8), Kayna (2), Lubero (2), Musienene (2), Kalunguta (1), Bunia (1) and Mabalako (1).

As of 7 April 2019, 1154 EVD cases, including 1088 confirmed and 66 probable cases, were reported. A total of 731 deaths were reported [u](overall case fatality ratio 63%), including 665 deaths among confirmed cases. Of the 1154 confirmed and probable cases with reported age and sex, 57% (662) were female, and 29% (331) were children aged less than 18 years. The number of healthcare workers affected has risen to 85, including 30 deaths, with three new health workers among the newly confirmed cases in Katwa and one in Musienene.[/u]
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Ebola is speading faster. Thousands of deaths now possible.

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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby Tanada » Tue 09 Apr 2019, 17:59:26

You know, given that Ebola is a tropical disease is it not odd that only tropical Africa is affected by this disease at any detectable scale? After all Brazil, India, Indonesia all have climate nearly identical to the Congo in Africa. If Ebola is to become a world pandemic the first sign would assuredly be its spread to these other places where the disease should be able to find vectors which could pass the disease on through the native populations in those climate regions.

Until Ebola breaks out broadly somewhere, anywhere really, beyond tropical Africa I will not lose a whole lot of sleep over Ebola.
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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby M_B_S » Wed 10 Apr 2019, 16:10:43

Wait Tanada wait and see

Next step:

APRIL 10, 2019 / 5:11 PM
WHO experts to decide whether Congo Ebola outbreak is international emergency

LONDON (Reuters) - The World Health Organization (WHO) on Wednesday said it had reconvened an expert panel to consider whether an outbreak of Ebola in the Democratic Republic of Congo constitutes a public health emergency of international concern.

The panel, which first met on this issue in October 2018, will also give updated recommendations on how global health officials should manage the outbreak, the WHO said in a statement from its Geneva headquarters.

At least 740 people have died among the more than 1,100 infected in this epidemic, which began in August 2018.

“Though the risk of spread within the country and to neighboring countries is very high, the risk remains low globally,” the WHO statement added.

The emergency panel’s meeting will take place on Friday April 12 and its decision will be published late the same day.

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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby Tanada » Wed 10 Apr 2019, 16:37:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('M_B_S', 'W')ait Tanada wait and see


You know something? I joined this forum 14 years ago this month, and for that whole time I have had people telling me 'Just you wait, the shoe is going to drop any second now!'

After a while it is like the Boy Who Cried Wolf, or the people who hate President Obama or President Trump and repeat the same accusations endlessly without convincing anyone but their self selected echo chamber.

I believe there are a lot of things that could easily go wrong and be disruptive of our civilization, but Ebola shows no sign of being one of those things.
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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby Ibon » Wed 10 Apr 2019, 18:51:39

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I believe there are a lot of things that could easily go wrong and be disruptive of our civilization, but Ebola shows no sign of being one of those things.


What ends up being disruptive will most like be something totally different than all the candidate issues presented here on this forum.

A black swan nobody saw coming.
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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby vtsnowedin » Wed 10 Apr 2019, 19:04:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', ' ')

A black swan nobody saw coming.

I doubt that. With so many doomers out there predicting catastrophe from every thing from A to Z there will probably be a few that saw it coming. Of course those few will not have any solutions to the problem or the ear of those in charge when the swan lands.
I do think a decline in oil and other fossil fuel production coming up hard against a increasing world population is the most likely black swan with climate change being secondary and just amplifying and localizing the problem.
I suppose which disaster leads is of little consequence to those trying to survive a disaster.
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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby KaiserJeep » Wed 10 Apr 2019, 23:19:06

This is an intelligence test. If you pass, your genes will be in the survivor gene pool. It's really that simple. If you are already elderly like some of us, and have reproduced, you are still in the game.

If you have not reproduced, and are past the age, then you can retain an intellectual interest in TEOTWAWKI, which I really believe is not going to come about for decades. But people like me have the responsibility of keeping the options open for our descendants.

I have decided that means some real estate holdings for the grandkids. Having sold the home in Silicon Valley, I'm house hunting in Wisconsin. Within the week, we will have to break it off and proceed to Nantucket, where the mail (and unpaid bills) are accumulating.

Make a plan. Execute the plan. It's that simple.
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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby careinke » Thu 11 Apr 2019, 15:19:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', '
')Make a plan. Execute the plan. It's that simple.


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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby Newfie » Thu 11 Apr 2019, 15:58:39

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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 11 Apr 2019, 16:56:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('M_B_S', 'W')ait Tanada wait and see


You know something? I joined this forum 14 years ago this month, and for that whole time I have had people telling me 'Just you wait, the shoe is going to drop any second now!'

After a while it is like the Boy Who Cried Wolf, or the people who hate President Obama or President Trump and repeat the same accusations endlessly without convincing anyone but their self selected echo chamber.

I believe there are a lot of things that could easily go wrong and be disruptive of our civilization, but Ebola shows no sign of being one of those things.

Hear hear!

Two months shy of a decade for me. (I think I lurked for a year or so before that as well, but can't remember for sure).

However, I was reading re fast crash doomer screeching a good 24 years before that, so I think it's safe to say I have a wee bit of experience re reading massive frequent fails re doomer predictions, with the endless repeating of the same or similar calls, etc.

...

If in doubt, just look at the epic failure record re the endless cries for doom from zerohedge -- OFT quoted on this site, as a prime example of a widely disseminated source of such "wisdom". They sounded somewhat convincing during the financial panic of '08 into '09. But somehow, 10.5ish years later, with almost all predictions failures, they just don't ring AT ALL credible any more to anyone willing to look at lots of data points and trends somewhat objectively.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 11 Apr 2019, 17:03:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'W')hy pay attention to Ebola?

1.If Ebola takes off within Africa then there may be a mass exodus/migration.

2. Ebola has in the past morphed from a liquid transmission to a air transmission in research chimps in Reston (?) VA. Fortunately that strainndid not infect humans. If it morphs into a human air form then it could be a different game, much faster transmission rates, harder to control.

Just something to keep an eye upon.

Something like a massive, dangerous flu epidemic (think 1918) seems a lot more realistic, and could kill a LOT of elderly or sickly people, as in hundreds of millions globally, if an effective vaccine can't be found, developed, and distributed/administered pronto.

Or even the fact that now sanitary diseases like Hep. A are a real concern in the first world (due to uncontrolled immigration and low education rates, IMO). As my doctor put it this winter when he strongly recommended I be immunized twice for that (and I quote): "We're becoming a third world country".

I think I'll pay attention to actual realistic issues vs. long shot odds like airborne Ebola killing humans or giant meteors striking the earth in the next several decades.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby M_B_S » Fri 12 Apr 2019, 04:35:57

Emergency panel meets as Congo Ebola outbreak gathers pace
Faltering national response to epidemic prompts experts to consider official announcement of public health crisis
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Experts will convene for an emergency meeting on Friday to determine whether the recent escalation of Ebola cases in the Democratic Republic of the Congo should be declared a global health crisis.

More than eight months into the epidemic, which has killed 751 people, agencies warned the disease is still not under control. The response to the outbreak has been complicated by conflict, political instability, and distrust of Ebola services.

Since the epidemic began in August, 1,186 cases have been recorded. More than 150 of these have occurred over the past fortnight.

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Re: Ebola Pandemic ?!? Pt. 6

Postby M_B_S » Wed 24 Apr 2019, 04:26:29

https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... of-control

Rumour and violence rife as Congo Ebola outbreak surges out of control

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Archippe Kamuha knows the signs of Ebola well: diarrhoea, bleeding, persistent fever. But if the 25-year-old developed such symptoms, she would not contact specialist health workers.

“I know that if I go [to a treatment centre], I’ll die. All my friends who go there don’t come home, they die,” said Kamuha, whose home town, Butembo, in north-eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo, is at the centre of the country’s escalating Ebola outbreak.
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Out of this follows logical this Outbreak is far from over. Maybe 10th of thousands will die very soon (worst case per day!)

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"In Butembo, Kamuha fears the death count will continue to rise. Last week, the local health officer had announced that nine people had died of the disease. “Even a baby died. It’s shocking.This virus, whose origin I don’t know, will kill our entire city,” she said."
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