I'm extra smart. Shouldn't I pass on my genes?

by **turmoil** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 19:24:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Q: I'm extra smart. Shouldn't I pass on my genes?

Well, could you pass a minimal intelligence test if one were required for a "license to breed"?

To find out, simply answer this question:

In light of the 40,000 children dying of malnutrition each day, and considering the number of species going extinct as a result of our excessive reproduction, do you think it would be a good idea to create another of yourself?

YES

NO

Thank you for playing.

by **jaws** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 19:30:39

Do you think civilization is a project worth continuing?

yes - Have a child or two

no - Take the cyanide pill now!!

by **The_Virginian** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 19:35:19

So the only answer is "no" according to these "wise" azzes.

And if only the stupid people breed, then what?

...An easier to control population?

...more thuggish society?

...certainty that man will cease progressing, because we were to stupid to find alternative sources of energy?

...another midevil era?

Is that what these fools desire?

by **linlithgowoil** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 19:41:51

i dont trust people who dont want children. i also dont trust people who support population control, because its always 'somebody else' that has to die, rather than them. i think these kind of people always envision other people dying and making sacrifices, but, of course, they'd be alive and well to enjoy the less crowded world.

i've said it before and i'll say it again. if you are concerned about the world population, kill yourself. then, not only would you be freeing up some calories for people, you'd also cease to exist and not be able to worry about things anymore. wonderful!

by **turmoil** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 19:56:27

i just want to add that i dont completely agree with these people i'm just looking for some creativity and some open-minded suggestions. Think of it as an exercise where you have to advocate the opposing side's argument.

Please post your opinion about the issue in the consensus thread, or start a new one yourself. Thanks.

Jaws understood all this. Great post!

And possibly the Virginian's post, if it's not sarcastic.

by **erl** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 20:05:53

I'm with linlithgowoil (had to check to make sure I got all the letters in there) on this one.

But then I've already had all the children I'm ever going to (at least that's what my wife tells me).

by **BrownDog** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 21:22:07

Their 'logic' appears to only consider this:
* It is not sustainable for everyone to have 3 or more children per couple.

But forgets this:
* It is also not sustainable for nobody to have any children.

by **turmoil** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 21:31:53

sigh...this doesn't have to be complicated. If we talk about sustainability then we have to define it. If we are tyring to completely agree with vhemt about trying to kill off the species then it gets complicated. :roll:

All i'm asking is if you are convincing people not to breed (or at least control population) how would you do it?

This whole being positive thing is really tough for people. Population control is either done voluntarily or is forced by nature, human nature (war) or Mother Nature (disease).

I'm asking for positive comments about promoting population control to the typical person.

by **MicroHydro** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 21:34:02

Next question:

Are you willing to kill someone else's child to make room for your child?

If not, why not? Why do you hate your own child?

by **MicroHydro** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 21:38:10

Extra credit assignment for the brilliant:

Design a rapid mass dieoff of humans that will not damage the Earth's carrying capacity. Execute the plan. If you are clever enough to pull that off, you can have as many children as you want.

by **killJOY** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 21:38:38

LIKE IT MATTERS?

The DNA stops HERE.

What dink am I satirizing?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')i don't trust people who have children. i also don't trust people who support restrictions on abortion, because its always 'somebody else' that has to forego an abortion, rather than them. i think these kind of people always envision other people breeding like monkeys and making sacrifices, but, of course, they'd be free to arrange a private abortion at the nearest clinic.

i've said it before and i'll say it again. i advocate suicide and omnicide. it's evil to control population but it's YHWH's will to cause a massive dieoff if He so chooses, bless him.

by **EnergySpin** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 21:39:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I'm asking for positive comments about promoting population control to the typical person.

by **gt1370a** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 22:10:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('stupid_monkeys', '
')All i'm asking is if you are convincing people not to breed (or at least control population) how would you do it?

by **parainwater** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 22:22:17

Part of the answer is "soylient green".

by **Andy** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 22:38:56

Linlith,

What is wrong with people who don't wish to have children? They are necessary to compensate for those who desire more than their replacement 2. Nobody is saying everybody must cease having children, that is obviously ridiculous. Humanity would gradually cease to exist under such a scenario.

Do you not agree that it is impossible for the world to continue sustaining the present population even at your chosen standard of living. If you do agree, then we must take steps to stem and then reverse the increase in population. Now, the most humane way to achieve that is by restricting births. Do you not agree? If you do agree, how can you be against a China style policy of 1 child per couple. It is the best of a bad set of choices Linlith. Any other approach will be far more brutal.

by **101** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 22:41:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')heir 'logic' appears to only consider this:
* It is not sustainable for everyone to have 3 or more children per couple.

But forgets this:
* It is also not sustainable for nobody to have any children.

by **gnm** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 23:01:56

Spin, my well armed, educated, and field trained children and I will happily feed Spin burgers to our guard dogs....

:lol:

-G

by **EnergySpin** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 23:23:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')pin, my well armed, educated, and field trained children and I will happily feed Spin burgers to our guard dogs....

by **BrownDog** » Sun 24 Jul 2005, 23:32:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('101', 'I')t´s a given that the vast majority of folks are like BrownDog and that blowhard Linlithgowoil; that the next best thing to immortality is to have offspring. And the more, the better.

by **turmoil** » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 01:33:23

Ok so far this is what we have to say to people about dropping the birth rate:

1. jaws - If you think civilization is a project worth continuing, then you can continue to ensure civilzation’s envitable destruction by having 1 or 2 children .

2. Virginian - still not sure if you are being sarcastic or not.

3. linlithgowoil – just kill yourself, that way I can breed and ensure civilization’s inevitable destruction by having as many children as I want.

3.5 erl and BrownDog – Well I’ve already had my kids so…I guess you can too. Vhemt is wrong. We’d all die out. We need to breed.

3.8 stupid_monkeys - Population control is either done voluntarily or is forced by nature, human nature (war) or Mother Nature (disease).

4. Microhydro - Are you willing to kill someone else's child to make room for your child? If not, why not --- why do you hate your own child?

5. killJOY – It doesn’t matter, we won’t reduce population growth due to religious indoctrination.

6. EnergySpin - If you keep having more children, then there will be a time during your and theirs lifetime where you will either eat them, or eat you or both of them will end up in burgers eaten by strangers. (See Ukranian famine during WWII)

7. gt1370a - Can't afford it? Don't have the kids. Btw, this won’t work cause people are stupid and will have sex every night to pop one out, in hopes that it will survive the resource depletion problems of the 21st century.

8. parainwater - soylient green, or in other words, we’ll just kill your kid and fertilize the Sahara with its remains (requires extreme totalitarian government).

9. Andy – It’s just a good idea not to have any more people on the planet. Sorry, no more room.

10. 101 – Vhemt is just exagerating by promoting no breeding at all because if people don’t feel it’s serious enough, they will just have as many kids as they want. So in other words, they have a right to promote no breeding because even if many people don’t breed the species is not in any danger of dying out. So take them seriously, because it's actually a serious problem. Just don't breed.

11. gnm – Spin is gonna be the first to go, in gnm’s burger that is. Ahahaha…..uh oh..it could be me or you or your kid in a burger.

12. EnergySpin – No carrots for you!!! (Spin is the carrot Nazi – Seinfeld reference)

13. BrownDog – I was just kidding, I change my mind. Life is complicated. But that is just not my fault or yours. I have no clue whether you should breed or not.

14. stupid_monkeys – If you have kids they will die in a resource war, or in the chaos erupting during shortages.

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