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THE Food Price Thread pt 2 (merged)

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Re: THE Food Price Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby M_B_S » Sat 22 Mar 2014, 06:44:21

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/ ... od-crisis/
Middle East drought continues, Experts fear global food crisis


The Middle East’s driest winter in several decades could pose a threat to global food prices, with local crops depleted and farmers’ livelihoods blighted, UN experts and climatologists say.

Varying degrees of drought are hitting almost two-thirds of the limited arable land across Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, the Palestinian territories and Iraq. “Going back to the last 100 years, I don’t think you can get a five-year span that’s been as dry,” said Mohammad Raafi Hossain, a UN Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) environmental economist.
Reuters | March 15, 2014 11:46 pm
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Re: THE Food Price Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Sat 22 Mar 2014, 09:27:36

India farmers commit suicide after hailstorm destroys their crops:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') string of farmers have committed suicide in western India after freak hailstorms and rains destroyed winter crops worth millions of dollars, activists and politicians said.

"There have been 32 (farmer) suicides so far across Maharashtra after the hailstorms started...

"Since the hailstorm began on February 28, the entire rabi (winter-sown) crop on 1.6 million hectares of land in 17 districts has been destroyed," senior BJP leader Gopinath Munde said.

The region, which usually experiences the tropical rainy season from June to October, saw major damage to crops of fruits such as grape, mango, papaya, lime and watermelon.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-20/a ... in/5332890
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Re: THE Food Price Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby dissident » Sat 22 Mar 2014, 13:10:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'F')ive years ago local grass-fed 80% lean hamburger (my mainstay) was $2.99/lb., on sale regularly for $2.49. Gradually moved up to $3.49. Just jumped to $3.99 (wife says more.)


This conforms to a roughly 6% annual food price rise. The official CPI of 2% is a total lie. Food accounts for a big chunk of consumer spending (about a third) so the CPI should be at least 4%.
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Re: THE Food Price Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby Loki » Sat 22 Mar 2014, 16:56:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'F')ive years ago local grass-fed 80% lean hamburger (my mainstay) was $2.99/lb., on sale regularly for $2.49. Gradually moved up to $3.49. Just jumped to $3.99 (wife says more.)


This conforms to a roughly 6% annual food price rise. The official CPI of 2% is a total lie. Food accounts for a big chunk of consumer spending (about a third) so the CPI should be at least 4%.
The 'Substitution bias'. There is no inflation because folks just change their habits and substitute. So instead of buying hamburger meat, I now shop at the pig-ear department of my pet-supply outlet. I spend the same amount. Isn't economics wonderful :badgrin:


That's not how it works.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]When the cost of food rises, does the CPI assume that consumers switch to less desired foods, such as substituting hamburger for steak?

No. In January 1999, the BLS began using a geometric mean formula in the CPI that reflects the fact that consumers shift their purchases toward products that have fallen in relative price. Some critics charge that by reflecting consumer substitution the BLS is subtracting from the CPI a certain amount of inflation that consumers can "live with" by reducing their standard of living. This is incorrect: the CPI's objective is to calculate the change in the amount consumers need to spend to maintain a constant level of satisfaction.

Specifically, in constructing the "headline" CPI-U and CPI-W, the BLS is not assuming that consumers substitute hamburgers for steak. Substitution is only assumed to occur within basic CPI index categories, such as among types of ground beef in Chicago. Hamburger and steak are in different CPI item categories, so no substitution between them is built into the CPI-U or CPI-W.

http://www.bls.gov/cpi/cpiqa.htm#Question_3


USDA data show beef prices going up:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')eef and veal prices fell 0.1 percent in January but remain 1.8 percent above last January’s level. Many retail beef prices are at or near record, inflation-adjusted levels.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/f ... y3zTH3fFY4


This is mostly due to the lowest cattle inventory in decades, itself partially a result of drought in cattle country, plus the drought of 2012 in corn country (link). More recently the cold weather in much of the US has limited weight gain (link).

The drought in California means more beef producers have to buy hay, which ain't cheap these days.
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Re: THE Food Price Thread pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby Loki » Sat 22 Mar 2014, 17:11:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', 'T')his conforms to a roughly 6% annual food price rise. The official CPI of 2% is a total lie. Food accounts for a big chunk of consumer spending (about a third) so the CPI should be at least 4%.

Um, no. USDA data shows individuals and families spent 11.4% of their disposable money income on food in 2012, almost half of that at restaurants.

If we look at total consumer spending, the percentage spent on food was 6.4%, the lowest in the world (link).

As a food producer, I personally would like to see this percentage double, or triple. People who spend 6.4% of their income on food shouldn't be bitching about food prices.
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