[Newfie]

But then doesnt that become a disadvantage of city living?

Not that it must be that way but that if you embrace the city then you need to take special precautions to retain your flexibility and world view?

I guess I was just feeling that bit was being overlooked in the comparisons.

And yes generational, ESP with all this electronic media. It has value, but it comes at a cost (he keyed on his iPad.)

Thanks for affirmation Pops.

[Pops]

I think you're right Newf.

One thing "different" about people like us (if I may be so bold) is we don't necessarily believe that just because things are a certain way today, they will always be this way. But for the lady who'd never cooked a turkey, cooking one was just a lark*, she has no intention of ever needing to know how to cook a turkey with a pop-up thermometer, let alone anything more complicated, why would she? She hasn't to this point.


(haha never tasted lark but maybe it's like giblet-plastic-line turkey)

[Newfie]

Once, as a stupid kid, I made black bird pie (4 and 20 black birds...etc.) Starlings and grackles actually. Frigging lotta work that.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'W')hat I see is that, technical advantages aside, city folks, more correctly SOME city folks, become very disconnected from the natural world. To an amazing degree.

[Newfie]

I find that when I find/catch/kill it is a spiritual encounter for me. I'm a atheist through and through. But if I ever fell connected it is at that time, there is a very real sacrifice being made. One thing dies so another lives. No testosterone involved. Humility.

You just don't get that with some skinned, deboned, chicken breasts.

Similar for you?

[AgentR11]

For me, not spiritual but sacred I think, if it makes sense to differentiate the two. It is the once in a while time, when I am being an honest hominid. Not a detached, linked mind in a hive of technology and ethical constructs meant to convince a 200'ish pound, relentless, running, eating machine, that sweat and violence are bad, and pacifism and sterility are good.

When I kill and eat the rabbit; the rabbit is being a rabbit, and I am being an hominid, and all the fluff and bs falls to the side, completely without worth.

And yeah, its definitely not a testosterone thing, but I don't know as I'd go so far as to invoke humility. I have no sense that humble is the correct label when something is simply being what it is; when I bring my mind in to play and start to mess with stuff no other biological existence here has ever messed with, that is when I reach out and grasp for humility. I've said before, a medium weight, apex predator has absolutely no business knowing what we know. If we choose to go there anyway, we must go with great humility, or we will bring ruin to all.

[Newfie]

Thanks for the thoughts.