by Expatriot » Sun 13 May 2012, 19:09:15
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Expatriot', 'E')very site is going to have its gives and takes.
It seems that 1/2 the content on this site is AGW stuff, with the CC crowd being militant and loud.
If one were only interested in discussing FF issues or the PO issue, the oil drum would make a good choice, I suppose.
Suppression and a disregard of reality is ignorance to the highest degree.
More ignorant is wasting a lot of time and energy being militant about something you can't change.
It's all a question of perspective.
From your perspective, you're trying to "save the planet."
From my perspective, you're wasting your time.
So, if there was really a change that you could save the planet, then I'm the ignorant one. But if there is no chance that you can save the planet, then you're the ignorant one for wasting so much time and energy on it.
We're at the beach. We have made a beautiful sand castle together. We didn't expect the tide to come in, but now we notice that it is. The tide is coming in. And it's clear that the tide is going to sweep over our castle. You have spent the last 3 hours running up and down the beach screaming at people that we need to protect the castle. I, while loving the castle and all that it represents, understand that there is no way we can stop the tide. The castle will swept over. As you run up and down the beach kicking sand on people, screaming enough to scare off the gulls, I lounge in my beach chair and enjoy the day. When your screaming and carrying on gets to the point where I can't enjoy the day, I move to a new beach.
Point is, you and everybody like you can't change the fact that humans will burn every last drop of FF before they consider the climate in 5 years time. With FFs running out, the desire to burn them will increase, not decrease. You can't do anything to stop it. It will happen. As gasoline becomes more scare, the probability that what is available will be burned increases.
It's really as simple as that.
How effective have the beach screamers been since AGW came to the public's attention? Zero? Maybe a skoosh? You've built a small sand wall between the tide and your castle.
You run around screaming at everybody that they're ignorant, but you're the one who thinks you can get 7 billion people to stop burning coal and oil by showing them pictures of polar bears and pointing out that low lying areas of land will be under water in X number of years.
Wake up. Most people don't care, and won't be compelled to care unless it affect them directly.
Americans have been happy to rack up 14 trillion in debt that presumably will be foisted on others, in future earning groups. You think they give a flying ----k about polar bears?
Your fatal conceit is that you think that you can stop people from using the resources that they can access. You can't.
Figure that out, and you'll go get get yourself a nice beach chair and relax and enjoy the warm temps.
Until then, knock yourself out.