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Do people who don't have insurance deserve medical care?

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Re: Do people who don't have insurance deserve medical care?

Unread postby blaymakar » Tue 08 May 2012, 18:27:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') think employer-based health care, and the subsidies that encourage it, is one of the main impediments to real health care reform in the US.

I agree with you completely, what a waste.


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Re: Do people who don't have insurance deserve medical care?

Unread postby jbrovont » Wed 09 May 2012, 00:16:50

Deserve, as in possessing an obligation? No.

As a society that values quality of life, I think we have a moral obligation to ease another's suffering if it is within our means. Personally, I don't think it's a matter of deserving, I think it's a matter of what you value. If you value the lives and feelings of American individuals, then you'll do things to improve their lives, and to care for them. Conversely, if you only value how American individuals might benefit you, it's not a matter of not knowing their needs; it's a matter of not caring what those needs are.

Interestingly, this is the root of disenfranchisement: if my society doesn't value or recognize my ability to contribute to it, why should I care what happens to the others around me either?
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Re: Do people who don't have insurance deserve medical care?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Wed 09 May 2012, 03:18:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o people who don't have insurance deserve medical care?

In general *yes*, as long as they pay.

As per free medical care without insurance, I would agree that following groups should get it for free:

1. Carriers of contagious disease - in best interest of public health.
2. Pregnant women (for the benefit of unborn child and also on compassionate grounds).
3. Minors and severely disabled, in latter case there should be a price capping.

Others should rely on family, friends, charity, pay or die.

However I would try to make available cheap care for poor.
It would entail low cost services under the clause that patient has no right to sue a doctor or hospital or whoever else, if a given procedure goes wrong.
This care would not be a-state-of-the-art, but nevertheless very efficient in most of cases and cheap as much of costly bureaucratic boondoogle would be gone.
They should be able to buy cheep generic medicines as well.
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Re: Do people who don't have insurance deserve medical care?

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 09 May 2012, 07:42:46

Looks like the classic 'us' versus 'them'.

Fences ppl place in their minds.........

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Re: Do people who don't have insurance deserve medical care?

Unread postby Cog » Wed 09 May 2012, 17:42:28

Good fences make good neighbors.
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