[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PhilBiker', 'H')ow bout we drop the dumb star trek and matrix sci-fi analogies, they're not helping us deal with the reality of the situation and they're not helping with our believability.

[b0nez]

Matt,wanted to just say thx a ton.I stumbled over your site somehow and it put some very complicated subjects in terms even a dumbass like me can understand,and thats the job well done IMO.

A question maybe you guys could help me with.Say the U.S. topples a few 3rd rate economies and is able to knock demand down to say 65-70mbd.How far out would that push the peak ya think?

[OilsNotWell]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') did not leave in "big public huff and puff."

I left with "my panties in a bunch." I've since gotten them unbunched.

Matt

[KevO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '
')
Basically JayHMorrison called Matt a moron with no experience or credibility. Matt defended himself and for EIGHT PAGES, they flamed each other. It finally came down to Matt calling Jay a "whining, arrogant, ball-less crybaby" .

[savethehumans]

I wouldn't be too concerned about this, everyone. As political/economic happenings are deeply tied in with PO, PO as a topic is not going anywhere. Matt's got plenty of material about the basics that anyone can reference. Not to mention his book.

From the Wilderness did this too, at the start of the year. It's basically shifting the emphasis from what PO is to what's happening because PO is here, and what we, the non-sheeple, can do to get through it.

No PO site truly explaining what is going on is going to stop pointing out the truth. Matt and those like him know what these mainstream stories are saying; they aren't going to let the misconceptions go unanswered. One of the best helps for those of us Who Know, and one of the best arguments for those Who Sail DeNial, is to show how what is happening in the world is because of PO, and the events themselves are proof of PO. The survival tips are good for everybody!

For all manner of stories about PO and energy and all that, check in with energybulletin.net (One of Matt's main sources, BTW). I get a LOT of good stuff from there!

[KevO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('savethehumans', '
')From the Wilderness did this too, at the start of the year. It's basically shifting !

[PhilBiker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PhilBiker', 'H')ow bout we drop the dumb star trek and matrix sci-fi analogies, they're not helping us deal with the reality of the situation and they're not helping with our believability. But then credibility isn't on everyone's peak oil agenda. I thought you left with a big public huff and a puff Matt.

[FatherOfTwo]

Is Matt definitely removing the “awareness” angle? It's implied in this thread but the site home page still looks the same.

[FireJack]

Originally when I read the life after the oil crash site I was rather alarmed, then I started thinking no thats stupid it won't happen like that. Of couse when you are aware that oil is running out you begin to notice a lot of things that you didn't before and I grow more pessimistic. Whatever prediction we make about what will happen will probably be wrong though. The economy will crash but the preceding events will be impossible to predict.

[Tyler_JC]

My first real introduction to Peak Oil was Mr. Savinar's site. I consider Matt's to be the best introduction to PO out there. It is rather long, but PO is a rather complex topic. It is difficult to read Matt's introduction and stil call PO a hoax. There are people who have done it (many of whom post regularly on this site ) but most people who read it become PO aware almost overnight.

I read Savinar's book when it was free . The only thing I didn't like about it was the 9/11 conspiracy stuff. I refuse to believe that Dick Cheney organized 9/11. I believe that Bush & Co. simply ignored the warnings and let it happen in order to have an excuse to make a move on Caspian and eventually Iraqi oil. Roosevelt didn't plan Pearl Harbour, but he allowed it to happen in order to rally the American People to war. I doubt he would have allowed such a major attack, but he wasn't expecting 4000+ American dead.

[KevO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'M')y first real introduction to Peak Oil was Mr. Savinar's site. I consider Matt's to be the best introduction to PO out there. It is difficult to read Matt's introduction and stil call PO a hoax. There are people who have done it (many of whom post regularly on this site ) but most people who read it become PO aware almost overnight.
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[The_Virginian]

fear sells.

Not that there is nothing to fear!

for example i might be buying a horse this week.... but every chioce has issues, and the "country life" insulates you from some things and exposes you to others (ticks- lyme desiese, snakes, long distances from emergency care, long car trips to Wall Mart etc.).

So how does noe exactly prepare for peak oil?

the answer is not as easy as it sounds.

[cammo2004]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', 'f')ear sells.

Not that there is nothing to fear!

for example i might be buying a horse this week.... but every chioce has issues, and the "country life" insulates you from some things and exposes you to others (ticks- lyme desiese, snakes, long distances from emergency care, long car trips to Wall Mart etc.).

So how does noe exactly prepare for peak oil?

the answer is not as easy as it sounds.

[MicroHydro]

I read the 1998 Scientific American article by Campbell and the 2004 National Geographic article. Neither really got my attention being so vague and placed in some far future.

LATOC was the lightning bolt that really got my attention. I have purchased several copies of Matt's book for friends and family. The Oil Age is Over is the equivalent to a court argument by a brilliant lawyer. It gets right to all the important points and pulls no punches. Matt's petty critics are like fleas on a lion. Rock on, Matt.

[ubercrap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cammo2004', 'O')h, And don't expect Wal-mart (or any other major shopping chain, for that matter) to be around for much longer.

[Leanan]

I think "demand destruction" will be a severe hit for Wal-Mart. Because they are so large, they tend to be out in the boonies, where land is cheap. People drive 30 minutes without thinking these days, but as gas gets pricier, perhaps even unavailable, people will have to think twice. Plus, Wal-Mart's customers tend to be poor. They don't have a lot of disposable income to begin with; peak oil will wipe them out. Wallyworld is already suffering, due to high gas prices. Their customers simply don't have money to spare on Chinese gewgaws any more.

Yes, they could shrink their stores and move closer to cities...but then they really wouldn't be "big box" stores. More likely they will just close stores that aren't profitable.

[ubercrap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', ' ') Plus, Wal-Mart's customers tend to be poor.

[KevO]

I see Monte has also followed the trend of 'awareness is over time to prepare'
at
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic9450.html
Is anyone actually doing so?, I mean really doing it, so if the lights went out this afternoon and the water stopped running thro' your taps, you'd be set up? or are we all just preparing to prepare?
KevO

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KevO', 'I') see Monte has also followed the trend of 'awareness is over time to prepare'
at
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic9450.html
Is anyone actually doing so?, I mean really doing it, so if the lights went out this afternoon and the water stopped running thro' your taps, you'd be set up? or are we all just preparing to prepare?
KevO