[misterno]

http://www.fns.usda.gov/fns/key_data/august-2011.pdf

Another month another record in number of people receiving food stamps

43,201,052 (Oct-2011)
45,837,824 (Aug 2011-latest data)

This number represents a 6.1% increase from a year earlier

[Revi]

Think about the 47 million people that are on Snap this year:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/vi ... y-car-trip

[Fishman]

To say the least challenges lie ahead. Welfare states, good or bad, require appropriate demographics and working economies. The western world now has neither. Expanded spending, like Krugman might recommend, only works if you can recoup the spending in an economic upswing in the future, not likely to happen now post peak oil, or at he least as long as oil prices remain high. Austerity, powerdown, whatever, a rose smells the same regardless of the name.

[vision-master]

Tax the millionares - problem solved.

[Cog]

How does taxing millionaires put more money in poor folks pocket?

[PrestonSturges]

like I said, if a couple people had hoarded most of the nations zinc, copper, or tin, we would consider it a threat to our national security. Letting them hoard all the money just draws bovine looks of feigned ignorance.

[Cog]

Rich people make Preston sad.

[Shaved Monkey]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'H')ow does taxing millionaires put more money in poor folks pocket?

[Loki]

Uncle Sucker spends about $65 billion a year on SNAP (food stamps).

In comparison, the top ten fedgov contractors (mostly military) get more than $71 billion a year---Lockheed Martin alone bilks taxpayers for nearly $17 billion a year, Northrop Grumman for more than $11 billion, Boeing for more than $10 billion.

Yet we never hear Cog (deleted) bitch and moan about the CEO of Lockheed Martin or other millionaire mooches....

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'U')ncle Sucker spends about $65 billion a year on SNAP (food stamps).

In comparison, the top ten fedgov contractors (mostly military) get more than $71 billion a year---Lockheed Martin alone bilks taxpayers for nearly $17 billion a year, Northrop Grumman for more than $11 billion, Boeing for more than $10 billion.

Yet we never hear Cog (deleted) bitch and moan about the CEO of Lockheed Martin or other millionaire mooches....

[Cog]

Calm yourself Loki. I don't want you to stroke out over wealth inequality.

I'm sure somewhere in the world, someone is making a ton of money that is going untaxed right now. Be a hero and go search them out and distribute their largess to the masses.

[Shaved Monkey]

To put it in historical perspective

[Cog]

Peak Food Stamp usage?

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'M')ooo.

[PrestonSturges]

But if we tax the billionaires, they'll just move to other countries.....and do to them what they've done to us! Yes tax them, please do.

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'C')alm yourself Loki. I don't want you to stroke out over wealth inequality.

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
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Lockheed Martin? What will America be without submarine missiles? Sure, I bet they overcharge taxpayers by way, way more than $10-20 million they spend on lobbying every year, but at the very least they ARE doing something productive ( or constructively destructive, if you want to put it this way )

As for mooches, what do they produce aside of humanure?

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'P')eak Food Stamp usage?

[Cog]

I see.

So we need more welfare state to prevent more welfare state? Sometimes your illogically formed statements defy any effort to unscramble them.

Hmm which do I choose A or B?

Taking from the rich and giving to the poor doesn't work, won't work, and shouldn't be done even if it did work.

[basil_hayden]

You're right Cog, stop the welfare state, let the revolution boil and cut off their heads.