[AgentR11]

That's much more realistic. I have a hard time figuring out how the dividing would proceed, the 48 states are like the ultimate in integrated trading blocks, do we keep a common currency, use gold, if so, how to value that gold; we can't use another country's currency, cause none are big enough to tolerate having such a huge tag along... Really odd questions.

I could see some really weird outyear disparities in power too, not to mention the giant elephant of the nuclear arsenals, and plants capable of enrichment..

In the end, I think we stay together, no insurrection, just a long, grinding, never ending, Depression, but with liquidity.

But, we'll long be able to bomb the piddle out of outsiders that mess with our self inflicted catastrophe...

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'D')id the food stamp cards stop working?

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'D')id the food stamp cards stop working?

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'D')id the food stamp cards stop working?

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', ' ')Food stamps will be the last thing cut off. Perhaps you love the class warfare you always spout but it really doesn't add to the conversation.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')pril 11, 2011
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s budget plan would cut the SNAP program (formerly known as food stamps) by $127 billion — almost 20 percent — over the next ten years (2012-2021), which could throw millions of low-income families off the rolls, cut benefits by thousands of dollars a year, or some combination of the two.[1]

[AgentR11]

Did Ryan's plan become law... or not.
No?
SHOCK!

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', 'D')id Ryan's plan become law... or not.
No?
SHOCK!

[AgentR11]

CSFP is not a pacification program. Its built wrong. It doesn't cause goods to be purchased through the normal supply chain where the end consumer trades dollars for product.

[PrestonSturges]

There are certainly some veterans that have a distinctly Lee Harvey Oswald outlook on life, and the seem a little miffed that their sniper training doesn't get them any respect in the real world. Being able to make a headshot at 800 yards doesn't make their opinions about anything more valuable, but they sure want that feeling of importance they got when their gun could effect the outcome of a war. These guys see to spend a lot of time fantasizing about killing their neighbors.

I also used to hunt with a Marine sniper - a good guy all around, but he did not consider himself an oracle on any subject. Definitely the guy I'd want to be around for the end of the world. But he wasn't demanding political control over other people.

This fantasizing about killing their liberal neighbors seemed to peak with the astroturf town hall protests of 2009. They really get all fired up to the point of going on a killing spree over those rallies.

Did you see the Tea Party protest in support of the House Republicans the other day? About 20 people showed up on the Capital lawn.

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'D')id you see the Tea Party protest in support of the House Republicans the other day? About 20 people showed up on the Capital lawn.

[Bill Hicks]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '
')Which is why I think the House will cave. They don't have the spine to strip the executive branch of any relevant power. So we proceed towards further empowering the Imperial Presidency,

[AgentR11]

This is a lot bigger than Democrat vs Republican; its legislative vs executive power; and we are crossing the line now, and the end to legislative power is coming into view. Sen Byrd saw it coming years ago, even in his own party, even when his own votes furthered that power.

Can you not see it?

[Plantagenet]

Thank goodness the democrats voted down the evil mean-spirited Republican bill to raise the debt ceiling.

Now the Congress can unite behind Reid and obama and vote through the wonderful, generous Democrat bill to raise the debt ceiling.

One problem still remains, however.......where is the wonderful and generous Democrat bill? Has the CBO run the numbers for it yet? AND when will it be send to the floor of the Senate to be voted on so it can go to the house and be voted on so Obama can sign it before the August 2 deadline he has set?

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oakley', '
')How is it that you conclude that I am a person like Obama who wants to punish the rich. I am rich myself, and do everything I can to avoid the plunder of government. I am politically a libertarian and believe in free markets, and the absolute minimum government which would be about 5% of what government we have today.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '
')If you bring them into the discussion of domestic uprising and violence. The US military wins the violence issue, regardless of the circumstance.

So, Bob the Mooch, if insurrection was in his mind, would be choosing between laying low and behaving, or suicide. There is no "fighting" for him in this context.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EOTWAWKI', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR11', '.')..gang bangers and liberal morons...

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')pril 11, 2011
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s budget plan would cut the SNAP program (formerly known as food stamps) by $127 billion — almost 20 percent — over the next ten years (2012-2021), which could throw millions of low-income families off the rolls, cut benefits by thousands of dollars a year, or some combination of the two.[1]

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he folks I see standing in line at the gas station counter, whipping out their food stamp card, buying lottery tickets and beer, can definitely eat 20% less and still be fat.

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he folks I see standing in line at the gas station counter, whipping out their food stamp card, buying lottery tickets and beer, can definitely eat 20% less and still be fat.