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by vision-master » Fri 20 May 2011, 19:27:55
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'I') am a signatory on the Giving Pledge. My will directs the creation of a foundation to use my wealth to alieviate suffering. ALL my wealth. I have no heir.
Giving Pledge
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Giving Pledge is a campaign to encourage the wealthiest people in the United States to make a commitment to give most of their money to philanthropic causes. The campaign specifically targets billionaires and was made public in 2010 by the two wealthiest men in the United States, billionaires Warren Buffett and Bill Gates.
The official website states that it "is an effort to invite the wealthiest individuals and families in the United States to commit to giving the majority of their wealth to philanthropy."
linkBut alieviating suffering isn't enough. The industrialists must be stopped from turning this nation into a giant sweatshop and destroying the American people.
Right now they are trying to break the working class and make them second class citizens. No less. You are already hearing talk of limiting voting rights, and they are already targeting public education.
They want ignorant, illiterate serfs with no means of improving their condition.
This is not the America I was born in. This is more than evil.
The Healthwell foundation is helping me.
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by Lore » Fri 20 May 2011, 19:31:11
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'I')'m willing to pay more taxes to help the poor.
Go write a check to the US treasury.
No doubt, if we could only be sure it would get to the right people istead of funding 2.5 wars or big oil subsidies.
Are you a child?
An adult an obviously very much your superior.
The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
... Theodore Roosevelt
by Cid_Yama » Fri 20 May 2011, 19:44:16
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'C')an't believe doomers don't understand that there is no government money for all this keeping the sick and old alive when they are past due for a dirt nap.
But there's 700 billion available to give people like me who don't need it, tax breaks, and billions more to give for free to oil companies. And billions more for big Agriculture. Moron.
You obviously have a sickness in your soul.
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The level of injustice and wrong you endure is directly determined by how much you quietly submit to. Even to the point of extinction.
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by Lore » Fri 20 May 2011, 20:53:15
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SpockLives', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '
')I find it a hypocritical contradiction that many of the people that adhere to the notion of, right to life, would deny it to so many of the living.
America is still a free country, run right out and write a check to pay for whatever life saving services you think any particular person deserves. This being America, just don't expect everyone else to think the same way you do.
This being America, everyone should think the way I do. It's partially what the country was founded on.
The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
... Theodore Roosevelt
by Lore » Fri 20 May 2011, 21:17:55
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', ':')razz: So the big bad rich industrialists want to make impoverished serfs out of the middle class? That would mean that these serfs would no longer have the means to buy the products and services that the industries produce. Not a very good plan bye the looks of it. Are you guys sure they really want to make us serfs?
It’s the unwitting conundrum of capitalism. The ever quest to increase sales, while lowering the bottom line thereby maximizing profits. Like the monster that starting to eat itself a piece at a time until eventually it just disappeared.
The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
... Theodore Roosevelt
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by Cid_Yama » Fri 20 May 2011, 22:11:21
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')re you guys sure they really want to make us serfs?
They already have. Do you think people like yourself could exist without the decontruction of the educational system that has taken place since the 1970's?
Do you think we would be here without real wages remaining stagnant for the last 40 years for the majority of working Americans while prices rose?
Do you think that could have happened without the attacks and legislation
weakening Unions?
It is very clear to those of us who have lived long enough to witness it. To young punks like you, you don't know any better.
You fight for your chains, because you are too ignorant to recognize that is what you are doing.
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by SpockLives » Fri 20 May 2011, 22:26:12
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SpockLives', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '
')I find it a hypocritical contradiction that many of the people that adhere to the notion of, right to life, would deny it to so many of the living.
America is still a free country, run right out and write a check to pay for whatever life saving services you think any particular person deserves. This being America, just don't expect everyone else to think the same way you do.
This being America, everyone should think the way I do. It's partially what the country was founded on.
Excellent response! The Catch-22 of what America is supposed to be!
However, American history of chock a block full of not giving a rats behind about the aboriginals, each other (Go Rebs!), other countries (remember the Maine!), or have any tendency to hold back when offended (did the victims of Hiroshima glow in the dark before they died, or did they just die?) and NONE of it had anything to do with decency, love for our fellow man, universal health care, or whatever the more altruistic among us might hope for.
But it is nice to think that there are people out there who wish we had taken the more Socialist path of, say, the Europeans. As of late they are a nice and gentle folk without much ability to dispense much more than a furrowed brow when confronted with the reality of the world we live in. Of course, part of the reason they can afford to be such a nice and gentle folk is because...well...we are who we are, and we...ain't them.
So the big bad rich industrialists want to make impoverished serfs out of the middle class? That would mean that these serfs would no longer have the means to buy the products and services that the industries produce. Not a very good plan bye the looks of it. Are you guys sure they really want to make us serfs?
