Worst place post peak

by **smallpoxgirl** » Fri 20 May 2005, 21:24:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Terran', 'B')ut then again, there's alot of tolerance,

by **NTBKtrader** » Fri 20 May 2005, 21:33:14

my top 10
1. Las Vegas
2. Phoenix
3. El Paso
4. Mexico City
5. London
6. Los Angeles
7. Rio
8. South Africa
9. Bombay/Delhi
10. New York

by **jaakkeli** » Sat 21 May 2005, 18:20:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NTBKtrader', '8'). South Africa

by **alexis** » Sun 22 May 2005, 02:43:50

As far as countries as a whole are concerned, those at the end of the list of the sustainability index might be in deep trouble,

http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu/indicators/ESI/rank.html

Nevertheless, the accessibility to other countries around is not taken into account.

by **Hawkcreek** » Sun 22 May 2005, 03:13:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')ather all the fools together, into one huge mousetrap, then immerse Pandora's Box into the sea and drown them all.

by **TheTurtle** » Sun 22 May 2005, 08:50:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alexis', 'A')s far as countries as a whole are concerned, those at the end of the list of the sustainability index might be in deep trouble,

http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu/indicators/ESI/rank.html

Nevertheless, the accessibility to other countries around is not taken into account.

by **jaakkeli** » Sun 22 May 2005, 09:42:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', 'I')nterestingly enough, two of my favorite knives come from countries in the top five - the Swedish mora and the ubiquitous Swiss Army Knife. Coincidence? :wink:

by **Njegosh** » Sun 22 May 2005, 10:01:40

say jaakeli;
you sure you're not a reincarnation of Marshal Mannerheim?

Antaa tulla tenne vaan, Suomi Finland Perkele!

by **TheTurtle** » Sun 22 May 2005, 10:10:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jaakkeli', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', 'I')nterestingly enough, two of my favorite knives come from countries in the top five - the Swedish mora and the ubiquitous Swiss Army Knife. Coincidence? :wink:

by MD » Sun 22 May 2005, 11:38:18

So many votes for(against) Las Vegas. Now I am certainly not at ALL in favor of the consumerism represented by LV, I just want to point out the proximity to Lake Mead and Hoover Dam...massive amounts of both fresh water and hydropower.

by **Tyler_JC** » Sun 22 May 2005, 14:41:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o many votes for(against) Las Vegas. Now I am certainly not at ALL in favor of the consumerism represented by LV, I just want to point out the proximity to Lake Mead and Hoover Dam...massive amounts of both fresh water and hydropower.

by **Hawkcreek** » Sun 22 May 2005, 15:37:30

by **pea-jay** » Mon 23 May 2005, 03:03:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'S')o many votes for(against) Las Vegas. Now I am certainly not at ALL in favor of the consumerism represented by LV, I just want to point out the proximity to Lake Mead and Hoover Dam...massive amounts of both fresh water and hydropower.

by **bobcousins** » Mon 23 May 2005, 19:42:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pea-jay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'S')o many votes for(against) Las Vegas. Now I am certainly not at ALL in favor of the consumerism represented by LV, I just want to point out the proximity to Lake Mead and Hoover Dam...massive amounts of both fresh water and hydropower.

by **johnmarkos** » Mon 23 May 2005, 19:55:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alexis', 'A')s far as countries as a whole are concerned, those at the end of the list of the sustainability index might be in deep trouble,

http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu/indicators/ESI/rank.html

Nevertheless, the accessibility to other countries around is not taken into account.

by **Ludi** » Mon 23 May 2005, 20:16:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hawkcreek', 'm')yself and all of my neighbors could put food on the table without going to Walmart. .

by **pup55** » Mon 23 May 2005, 21:45:37

I'm really surprised Memphis has not made any of these lists.
Evidently not many of the PO'ers have visited there. They have actually tried to improve it in the last few years, but frankly, still pretty rough.

Memphis is notorious for racial problems, leads the nation in per-capita bankruptcy, high on the scale of per-capita drug and alcohol abuse, single parents, high school dropouts, diabetes and obesity control, violent crime and a lot of other indicators of a really screwed up quality of life.

Furthermore about 50% of the local economy is dependent on Fedex, UPS and other distribution businesses that will certainly take it on the chin once the peak hits. The 25% that depends on tourism mainly arrives by car to visit Graceland and Beale St.

The weather: too hot in the summer, not immune to an ice storm in winter. The river, the ostensible reason to put a town there, is also a source of yellow fever and malaria once the mosquito control gets back to pre-fossil fuel levels.

All in all, pretty rough.

by **Sparaxis** » Mon 23 May 2005, 23:43:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his is why I don't think San Francisco belongs on the list of worst places post-peak. The U.S. is more sustainable than most countries. The western U.S. is more sustainable than the eastern U.S. I suspect that the San Francisco Bay Area is more sustainable than L.A. An urban environment (the city of SF) is more sustainable than a suburban one. All of these factors add up to my family staying put for the time being.

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