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Unread postby eastbay » Sun 15 May 2005, 23:42:12

Aboriginal people prove you can live free of petro products.

Yes, they certainly can, but only in scattered isolated small bands.

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Unread postby oowolf » Mon 16 May 2005, 18:04:41

LV and everything it stands for. I can only wonder what response the dessicated remains will inspire to those who happen upon them in the future? Sadness? Anger? Were they(us) psychotic?
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 16 May 2005, 18:32:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'L')V and everything it stands for. I can only wonder what response the dessicated remains will inspire to those who happen upon them in the future? Sadness? Anger? Were they(us) psychotic?
I'll bet some of the folks living in 17th century Salem thought that people were psychotic, too, oowolf. I suppose they were right.
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Unread postby Ludi » Mon 16 May 2005, 20:09:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Russian_Cowboy', '[')

You might be right, but we are talking about peak OIL, not peak water.


Water availability depends on the status quo remaining intact. If post-PO is as disasterous as some predict, water shortages will result.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Besides, you probably will not see many suffering people in Las Vegas because they can move to the other parts of the US.


Where will they move? How? When will they being this exodus?
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Unread postby Tyler_JC » Mon 16 May 2005, 21:21:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')here will they move? How? When will they being this exodus?


Into small holes 6 feet under the ground.

Via casket.

One week after the water/gas runs out in Vegas.

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Why do we feel the need to live in places like Las Vegas? They serve no function. These kinds of cities are nothing but a drain on their surronding ecosystem and will be very chaotic in the future.
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Unread postby BorneoRagnarok » Mon 16 May 2005, 21:58:51

I never visit any place outside of Malaysia except Singapore and Thailand. However , I can said that the whole Singapore is doomed. They even imported water from Malaysia and Indonesia. However, the main problem is Singapore is based on non essential sector such as service sector, industrial and tourist sector. When peak oil come, they just cannot return to the farms. If natural gas supply from Indonesia is interupted, Olduvai will visit them.

Kuala Lumpur the capital of Malaysia is doomed too. The capital depends value-added and service industry too. There are no place to grow your own food over there. Kuala Lumpur is situated in Selangor . Actually it is Federal Territory.With the current dry spell, water level at major dams fell to 54% from full level. Last time in Melaka, the main dam dry up. ...


http://www.ntu.edu.sg/idss/Perspective/ ... 050106.htm
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Unread postby Daculling » Tue 17 May 2005, 08:57:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hy do we feel the need to live in places like Las Vegas?


Las Vegas should be held in high esteem. How not to develop.

In LV post peak, everyone's luck will run out.

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Agreed, but have you ever visited. It's absolutly the most decedent spectical ever! Highly recommended (pre-PO). I also agree they are going to get the shaft in a quick hard crash. If it's slow it will just be a ghost town.

On a side note, has this link ever been posted here? We might see more of this in other parts of the world.

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Unread postby frankthetank » Tue 17 May 2005, 13:27:53

Puerto Rico might also be in trouble. That whole area might be in trouble. The population density is something like 1000people/sq mile (PR). They'll all be swimming to.....CUBA :)
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Unread postby Tyler_JC » Tue 17 May 2005, 14:43:31

DC will do just fine until the Fed falls apart. We can't have an open riot in DC, it's a threat to national security. The military will be partially diverted to stopping rioting in key cities. DC comes to mind as one of those key cities.

Despite it's problems, it's heading for a Police State, not Anarchy. Well...A Police State would be worse in my book...
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Unread postby Trab » Tue 17 May 2005, 15:41:51

Doesn't look like it's been mentioned yet, but from what I've read, Lagos, Nigeria, would be a horrible place to be post peak. Sounds like the whole coastal area around there would be absolutely awful.
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Unread postby TheTurtle » Tue 17 May 2005, 17:08:32

Phoenix and LA, though not necessarily in that order.

At the other climate extreme: the entire Pearl River Delta of China.
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Unread postby pea-jay » Thu 19 May 2005, 03:40:53

I, too nominate the city of Lost Wages to the worst place to be (in the US). The folks there, apparently have no clue. I blogged about this a few weeks back after the 2.7Billion dollar Wynn spectacle opened. Las Vegas has almost no prospects. Heck even the native americans steered clear of this area.

Never the less, I would recommend a trip there, pre-peak. Its out of this world.

Now here is a thought: the year is 2066 and fusion has been on the scene for almost 60 years now. (fantasy role playing here). To what absurd level will Las Vegas grown to?
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Unread postby pea-jay » Thu 19 May 2005, 03:44:59

Globally, almost any third world megacity will be a death trap. The dry ones will go first, but eventually all will succumb. Ironically, some rural third world "backwaters" will probably remain eminently survivable, if they are situated more than several days hike from the mega cities or are separated by severe topographical features. Those rural areas may have fewer people (due to emigration/migration) and a more subsistence level existence.
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Unread postby Terran » Fri 20 May 2005, 18:21:23

I wonder why not many mentioned San Francisco, it's the second most densely populated cities in the U.S.
But then again, there's alot of tolerance, and there's a really developed mass transit system. From BART subway, to muni, and those electric cable buses.

Outside of the major cities listed, I think those suburbs in the desert regions will take a beating as well. Think about those suburban towns surrounding L.A, they're out in the middle of desert, without fuel it's really hard to get anywhere, and without water sounds even worse. If you think the suburbs are horrable places, then I can clearly see those desert suburbs going before the rest of them.
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