[bratticus]

http://www.collateralmurder.com/

[pablonite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bratticus', 'T')hat video is the first I've heard of the NYT being up against espionage charges.

[Rod_Cloutier]

The wikileaks site is essentially useless. 400,000 documents to browse through in no apparent order, renders the information incoherent and useless. It would take a lifetime to sort through all the garbage to get at 'the truth'.

Their video, 'Collateral murder', however, is a war crime caught on tape, everyone with a conscience should watch it:

http://www.collateralmurder.com/

The video files are gut wrenching, and will turn even the most severe skeptic into a believer in the need for comprehensive change in government transparency.

[ColossalContrarian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Repent', 'T')he wikileaks site is essentially useless. 400,000 documents to browse through in no apparent order, renders the information incoherent and useless. It would take a lifetime to sort through all the garbage to get at 'the truth'.

Their video, 'Collateral murder', however, is a war crime caught on tape, everyone with a conscience should watch it:

http://www.collateralmurder.com/

The video files are gut wrenching, and will turn even the most severe skeptic into a believer in the need for comprehensive change in government transparency.

[Wren]

I think he's a hero.

[ColossalContrarian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wren', 'I') think he's a hero.

[SeaGypsy]

Oh for God's sake SHUT UP.
The guy is a friggin journalist with a snazzy website idea.

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', '
')There's no doubt the footage in this video is terrible but it came out before wikileaks. I'm sure Julian would like to take credit for this footage being released but he isn't the one who did it.

Everything I google regarding this footage associates it with wikileaks and I'm almost positive I saw this long before wikileaks hit the MSM.

I don't think it's fair for wikileaks to take the credit for every single wistleblower there is, infact it's disturbing, it's almost as if wikileaks has become the corporate and international leak agency. There have always been leaks in the military. "loose lips sink ships" ect. Wikileaks and Julian could very well be the truther of our time but I still don't by it %100.

[SeaGypsy]

And about a year ago I brought them up here and most postres had never heard of it. At the time I said it was likely to be the most important site on the web. I don't think I was wrong. Julian is a radical with a very clear idea which has worked. He is not a hero and is barely just a journalist, he is a dude who knew some stuff and thought latterally. He may have changed the world a bit. More than most.

[ColossalContrarian]

In all honesty I don’t know what would be the best outcome for average citizens or me, Wikileaks being legit or being run by the CIA? Either scenario doesn’t change the game much for any of us.

Here some more information for anyone else who’s skeptical. -> [url] http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/23 ... or-israel/[/url]

GORDON DUFF: ASSANGE ADMITS WIKILEAKS A FRAUD RUN BY PRESS FOR ISRAEL

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')oday, Julian Assange admitted that Wikileak material had been chosen by the press, not an independent organization after all. Wikileaks, in effect, admitted that it has always been a front for what Helen Thomas refers to as the Zionist controlled media. Assange, in a childish attempt at “spin” blamed the press for having too many “sensitivities ” to Israel and making Wikileaks look bad.

[ColossalContrarian]

Wikileaks and conspiracies associating the organization with Israel is deemed extremist.

I did not realize Gordon Duff was an extremist.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/conspiracy-theory-links-israel-to-wikileaks-112568669.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')onspiracy Theory Links Israel to WikiLeaks

ADL says Latest 'Big Lie' is Taking Root Among Anti-Israel Conspiracy Theorists
NEW YORK, Dec. 28, 2010 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The unauthorized publication of thousands of pages of classified U.S. diplomatic cables by the WikiLeaks organization has had a serious unintended consequence: the proliferation of anti-Israel conspiracy theories claiming that Israel and the "Israel lobby" played a secret role in the documents' release.
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) said the WikiLeaks affair was "being exploited to spread false and malicious conspiracy theories against Israel," as a part of a disinformation campaign that has gained traction with those catering to the far right and the left, some Arab and Islamic Web sites and others dedicated to spreading "anti-Zionist" messages like Islam Times and Hezbollah's Al Manar.
"Once again, as we saw with the 9/11 attacks and the financial meltdown, we are seeing yet another manifestation of the Big Lie against Jews and Israel," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "The WikiLeaks affair has given new life to the old conspiracy theories of underhanded Jewish and Israeli involvement in an event with significant repercussions for the U.S. and many nations around the world. The news is being exploited by conspiracy theorists, some world leaders, and various Web sites across the ideological spectrum to spread false and malicious conspiracy theories against Israel."

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'M')ore fun stuff -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl4NlA97GeQ&feature=player_embedded

EDIT: had to turn up the bass

[Keith_McClary]

Swiss whistleblower Rudolf Elmer plans to hand over offshore banking secrets of the rich and famous to WikiLeaks
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he offshore bank account details of 2,000 "high net worth individuals" and corporations – detailing massive potential tax evasion – will be handed over to the WikiLeaks organisation in London tomorrow
...
They are said to be "using secrecy as a screen to hide behind in order to avoid paying tax". They come from the US, Britain, Germany, Austria and Asia – "from all over".

Clients include "business people, politicians, people who have made their living in the arts and multinational conglomerates – from both sides of the Atlantic". Elmer says: "Well-known pillars of society will hold investment portfolios and may include houses, trading companies, artwork, yachts, jewellery, horses, and so on."

"What I am objecting to is not one particular bank, but a system of structures," he told the Observer. "I have worked for major banks other than Julius Baer, and the one thing on which I am absolutely clear is that the banks know, and the big boys know, that money is being secreted away for tax-evasion purposes, and other things such as money-laundering – although these cases involve tax evasion."
...
Elmer says: "I agree with privacy in banking for the person in the street, and legitimate activity, but in these instances privacy is being abused so that big people can get big banking organisations to service them. The normal, hard-working taxpayer is being abused also.

"Once you become part of senior management," he says, "and gain international experience, as I did, then you are part of the inner circle – and things become much clearer. You are part of the plot. You know what the real products and service are, and why they are so expensive.

[SeaGypsy]

Sheer genius.
Mesuge, if you are reading this, do you still think the US establishment want all this outed?

Anyone following the case in London would by now have seen that Assange is mounting his defense primarily on the basis that the USG wants to put him in the electric chair. How can they argue?
It seems increasingly likely Julian will pull of the biggest bloodless coup in the history of the world.

Come on out, gung ho Americans and tell us how evil it is to release this information, once again for the record?

[Keith_McClary]

Libyan Leader Blames Tunisian Uprising on WikiLeaks
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Q')addafi claims cables leaked by WikiLeaks detailing the spending habits of Ben Ali and his family were planted by ambassadors to push along the Tunisian uprising. (Unlikely.) The cable he's referring to was sent by the U.S. embassy in Tunis, describing Ben Ali's family as corrupt and a "quasi-mafia." Qaddafi also questioned the motive of the Tunisian rebels, yet seems to understand it exactly: "[The uprising] is for what?" he asked. "In order to have someone to become president instead of Ben Ali?" Of course, let's not forget that Qaddafi might have a personal grudge against WikiLeaks, since it ruined his intimate relationship with a voluptuous nurse.

Qaddafi could also be worried about his own place in this world. The Telegraph points out: "Libya also suffers from many of the same problems facing Tunisia: a relatively educated population facing large unemployment."

[pedalling_faster]

given what a Principled Company BofA is ...

where's the sarcasm emoticon ?

[bratticus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Wikileaks given data on Swiss bank accounts
BBC
17 January 2011

"Once we have looked at the data... there will be full revelation," said Mr Assange, who is currently on bail and confined to the UK due to an extradition request from Sweden.

He said the data would be vetted but that it was difficult to say how long this would take. The vetting would depend on the volume of information and how it was delegated, Mr Assange said, although he suggested it could be as little as two weeks.

[pablonite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oilguy', 'I') am not one to support conspiracy theories

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')gypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising

The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.

The American Embassy in Cairo helped a young dissident attend a US-sponsored summit for activists in New York, while working to keep his identity secret from Egyptian state police.

On his return to Cairo in December 2008, the activist told US diplomats that an alliance of opposition groups had drawn up a plan to overthrow President Hosni Mubarak and install a democratic government in 2011.
He has already been arrested by Egyptian security in connection with the demonstrations and his identity is being protected by The Daily Telegraph.

The crisis in Egypt follows the toppling of Tunisian president Zine al-Abedine Ben Ali, who fled the country after widespread protests forced him from office.

The disclosures, contained in previously secret US diplomatic dispatches released by the WikiLeaks website, show American officials pressed the Egyptian government to release other dissidents who had been detained by the police.

(snip)

Ambassador Scobey questioned whether such an “unrealistic” plot could work, or ever even existed. However, the documents showed that the activist had been approached by US diplomats and received extensive support for his pro-democracy campaign from officials in Washington. The embassy helped the campaigner attend a “summit” for youth activists in New York, which was organised by the US State Department.

Cairo embassy officials warned Washington that the activist’s identity must be kept secret because he could face “retribution” when he returned to Egypt. He had already allegedly been tortured for three days by Egyptian state security after he was arrested for taking part in a protest some years earlier.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289686/Egypt-protests-Americas-secret-backing-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html

[SeaGypsy]

Payback for leaking rendition info perhaps?
I love how the USG turns on it's despots; almost at whim. If they could apply such flexibility to other matters, the world might be a better place...