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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 20 Dec 2010, 01:19:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')ice-President Joe Biden called WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange a "high-tech terrorist" on Sunday, in an appearance onNBC's "Meet The Press."

I'm surprised it took the Obama administration this long, and that they didn't jump directly to "enemy combatant."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/1 ... 98838.html


It seems Assange saw this coming and that is why he was in London when TSHTF.
He has a very good chance of beating the rediculous Swedish attempted extradition/ prosecution for sex without a condom. His legal team will be arguing political persecution; idiot Biden just gave Assange a large helping of evidence to the point. If political persecution is found to be the basis of the Swedish charges, the British High Court cannot grant extradition. Given that the law he is charged under in Sweden is so obscure it has never been used and the fact that US prosecutors are still scrambling for a specific charge it looks not too difficult to prove politicisation of the entire legal action.
Once that happens, Assange is likely to be granted asylum or offered exile.
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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 20 Dec 2010, 01:25:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', 'T')he lack of thinking on the part of the Obama administration has been a terrible disappointment. I suspect the current 4 year term of the president was really the last opportunity to have some sort of managed collapse, after 2012 I think the down hill slope will be a lot sharper as oil production falls farther and farther behind demand.


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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby eXpat » Mon 20 Dec 2010, 09:36:15

For having unprotected consensual sex with two swedish women, the standars of terrorism have being lowered i see... :|
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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby Cloud9 » Mon 20 Dec 2010, 11:00:55

One of the primary reasons for a veil of secrecy is to convince lesser mortals that you are some how superior. When the Russian population realized that Czar Nicholas was just a little fellow the game was pretty much up. At least with Bush we admired and feared the evil genius of Darth Vader.
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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby Fiddlerdave » Mon 20 Dec 2010, 17:46:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', 'F')or having unprotected consensual sex with two swedish women, the standars of terrorism have being lowered i see... :|
Well, it can't be for releasing national secrets, or Scooter Libby & friends would be "terrorists" too!
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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby Revi » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 15:52:19

It seems a little strange to me. This guy thinks Assange is a plant, lately to get rid of the B of A, but maybe just to tighten up on the internet:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/end-ga ... censorship

I don't know, but Assange seems to be getting a lot of airtime.

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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 16:14:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'N')othing is true until it's been officially denied.

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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 17:23:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'I')t seems a little strange to me. This guy thinks Assange is a plant, lately to get rid of the B of A, but maybe just to tighten up on the internet:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/end-ga ... censorship

I don't know, but Assange seems to be getting a lot of airtime.

Nothing is true until it's been officially denied.


I agree with him. This seems like a false flag attempt to abolish the 1st amendment. I don't think anything of substance has come out of wikileaks, mostly just name calling and fluff for the MSM.

A lot of talk about nothing pretty much. For safety we better censure the internet too. I think that's being voted on today btw...
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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 18:24:03

Nothing of substance, huh?

C'mon, guys.
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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 20:06:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', 'N')othing of substance, huh?

C'mon, guys.



C'mon nothin. If you've found anything of substance (ie - not name calling) on wikileaks please share, honestly. Something earthshatering or super secret. I've read a lot about this on Zerohedge and there are a number of skeptics thinking this whole deal is a nothing but scare the sheeple into forfeiting their rights deal. Here is one from today -> http://www.zerohedge.com/article/end-ga ... censorship

I love this piece:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')"When signed into law in 1913, the Federal Reserve would loan and supply the nation’s money, but with interest. The more money it was able to print, the more "income" it generated for itself. By its very nature, the Federal Reserve would forever keep producing debt to stay alive. It was able to print America’s monetary supply at will, regulating its value. To control valuation, however, inflation had to be kept in check. The Federal Reserve then doubled America’s money supply within five years, and in 1920, it called in a mass percentage of loans. Over five thousand banks collapsed overnight. One year later, the Federal Reserve again increased the money supply by 62 percent, but in 1929, it again called the loans back in, en masse. This time, the crash of 1929 caused over sixteen thousand banks to fail and an 89 percent plunge on the stock market. The private and well-protected banks within the Federal Reserve system were able to snap up the failed banks at pennies on the dollar."

If this sounds familiar, it should. This seems to be the blueprint by today's banking elites for today’s banking industry as well. During the Bank Panic of 1907 and the Great Depression, JP Morgan was one of the biggest beneficiaries of a panic that many historians claimed they, along with the Federal Reserve, helped to manufacture (JP Morgan is alleged to have helped engineer both the Panic of 1907 and the Great Depression while the Federal Reserve helped engineer the Great Depression). If the future scenario regarding Wikileaks's release of incriminating big bank documents plays out anywhere close to the one I presented above, Julian Assange would, in essence, be performing a massive favor for the most favored private banks of the Federal Reserve system. One must remember that during this manufactured global monetary crisis, not all banks are created equal and a handful of banks are hand picked for survival and prosperity at the expense of hundreds of others. Just because Wikileaks threatens to release incriminating documents on a big bank that could make it look bad, this should not be naively or blindly interpreted as an anti-establishment act.


I don't know folks. B of A going down because of Julian is a little far fetched seeing as how we knew it would go down eventually. To bad he doesn't have any ish on JP
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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 21:42:19

More fun stuff -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl4NlA97GeQ&feature=player_embedded

EDIT: had to turn up the bass
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Re: University students warned to not talk about wikileaks

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 22:44:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', 'H')opefully the best and brightest will refuse to work for such an organization, based on principle.


Kind of hard to stand on principle when you have mouths to feed and said organization is the only one that gives a paycheque.
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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 22:49:18

I don't believe the USG wanted this to happen for 1 second.
Manning did not have highest level security clearance, he seems to have dug pretty hard at the level he did have.
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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 23:53:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', 'N')othing of substance, huh?

C'mon, guys.



C'mon nothin. If you've found anything of substance (ie - not name calling) on wikileaks please share, honestly. Something earthshatering or super secret.

Not yet, but what % do we have - is anyone counting? Maybe they are freaking because of what else is in there.

There is a lot of stuff we knew from sources that were deniable or ignorable. I don't think they have denied any of the cables. That makes a difference.
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Re: University students warned to not talk about wikileaks

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Wed 22 Dec 2010, 00:05:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'I')f one want to work for a government, s/he must not undermine government's position.
Hence it is not advisable to add embarrassment for your prospective employer.

If one does not consider career with government, s/he doesn't need to care.

Or with companies that do business with government or organizations that get grants from government.
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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby Crazy_Dad » Wed 22 Dec 2010, 03:27:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXbCwq4ewBU

An entertaining take.
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Re: It's official: Julian Assange Is a Terrorist

Unread postby Crazy_Dad » Wed 22 Dec 2010, 09:43:04

Anyone willing to put their head above the wall?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeTtBAOe ... re=related

Hey guys. Perhaps he is a fucking HERO? As I think he is.
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Good Interview With Julian Assange

Unread postby mattduke » Fri 24 Dec 2010, 13:11:26

Dated 22 Dec, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZCPmTJM0Hc
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Re: Good Interview With Julian Assange

Unread postby bratticus » Fri 24 Dec 2010, 15:31:43

That video is the first I've heard of the NYT being up against espionage charges.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Sen. Lieberman suggests NY Times violated Espionage Act
...Lieberman then suggested that news organizations that published leaked material — originally obtained by WikiLeaks — may have also violated the Espionage Act.


Don't want to say "witch hunts" and "neo McCarthyism", but...

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Re: Good Interview With Julian Assange

Unread postby bratticus » Fri 24 Dec 2010, 16:15:56

http://vimeo.com/13996347
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