[Serial_Worrier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'H')ere in north Texas, that's exactly what it is. Across the river in Oklahoma, they watch Fox as they diddle their first cousins. Not surprising they elected Sen Inhofe. That has got to be the stupidest man I have ever seen in a position of power, and there have been some real duzzies in Washington.

I wouldn't be surprised if we found that Michelle Bachmann was Inhofe's first cousin.

[Revi]

Fox news represents a culture. The culture of Nascar, monster trucks, creationism, Big Gulp sodas and trailer parks. They want these people to be the way they are. Who else would sign up for a 36 month lease on a truck they really don't need?

I'm not saying that the culture that watches NPR is any better. We are just as enmeshed in the system as the Fox News watchers. We drive different cars and shop in different places, but we prop the disfunctional system up too.

Neither side of the culture war has done much about the problems that are facing us. We are just driving towards the same abyss in different cars.

[Cid_Yama]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ometimes humorous, anecdotes are not jokes, because their primary purpose is not simply to evoke laughter, but to reveal a truth more general than the brief tale itself, or to delineate a character trait in such a light that it strikes in a flash of insight to its very essence.

[Fishman]

Cid
Since those crowds are predominantly one race, your comment is clearly racist.
Since a study showed tea party folks were MORE educated than the general public, YOU have revealed ignorance and predjudices everytime YOU open YOUR mouth.
Didn't your mother teach you that appearances can be incorrect? Your contempt (as with most of the left) comes across as arrogance, fueling the tea party even further. Keep it up, I think by 2014 you (and your ilk) can get Democrats on the endangered species list.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ince a study showed tea party folks were MORE educated than the general public

[Fishman]

Vision
Thanks for the pitch.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/po ... .html?_r=1

I might be, but then again, I didn't look at a crowd of people and post
"Have you ever seen a bigger bunch of hicks in your life? And evey one a Fox watcher. They reveal their ignorance and predjudices everytime they open their mouths."

Clearest definition of an educated dummy I've ever seen.

[Timo]

It's fairly common for historians to look back at the rise of evil empires, Hitler comes to mind, and ask the question, "If we could travel back in time to make a change that would prevent that atrocity from ever happening, would we do it?" Strictly hypothetically, more for some than others, though, if Fox News is someday judged to be an instrument for the dissemination of fraudalent propaganda which enabled the assembly of a murderous empire, would we not be accused now of letting it all happen by not putting a stop to it? Fox has a mission, and it's not to be a reliable news network. It's being used and expanded for purely political reasons. Period. But, far be it from me to put a stop to all the lies and disinformation they're spewing to the masses. Let the stupid people be stupid.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's fairly common for historians to look back at the rise of evil empires, Hitler comes to mind

[Cid_Yama]

Nonsense. A study by tea partiers and their supporters saying, "we're not dumb, we're smarter than you" does not make it so.

The Republicans have always used sloganeering to manipulate the uneducated masses because it works, and Fox is the modern implementation of that.

Your inability to recognize that, demonstrates just how "smart" you are.

Bunch of friggin' anti-intellectuals saying they know more with their 6th grade education than those that have put in the hard intellectual work to gain degrees in their fields and actually know.

[Fishman]

Perhaps
Another point of view
MSNBC, NPR, ABC, NBC, CBS have a mission, and it's not to be a reliable news network. It's being used and expanded for purely political reasons.
Data
Pew Chairitable Trust (liberal)
Washington Post post Obama election (liberal)
NexusLexus searches of "extreme"
Nexus Lexus search name of party when politician arrested (Republican mentioned, Democrat not mentioned)
Dan Rather
CBS recent run of Bush's book cover.
etc

So lets try this again. Biggest killers in modern history, Stalin and Mao
It's fairly common for historians to look back at the rise of evil empires, Mao or Stalin comes to mind, and ask the question, "If we could travel back in time to make a change that would prevent that atrocity from ever happening, would we do it?"
Lets do it. Join the rest of the crowd and quit watching the mainstream media.

[Fishman]

Poor child, can't seem to read. So the people they interviewed stated they had x education level. You have a problem with that? So one group lied more than another groups? Now I can understand your poor view of the New York Times, the folks that did the survey

[Olaf]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'V')ision
Thanks for the pitch.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/po ... .html?_r=1

I might be, but then again, I didn't look at a crowd of people and post
"Have you ever seen a bigger bunch of hicks in your life? And evey one a Fox watcher. They reveal their ignorance and predjudices everytime they open their mouths."

Clearest definition of an educated dummy I've ever seen.

[Fishman]

Dig a little deeper, you have to look at the actual poll. You don't think th New York Times, finding something they didn't want to see, would actually post the data in the article do you?

[Revi]

Maybe it's a conspiracy by the poll takers to make people who watch Fox News seem dumber than they actually are. Maybe they are just pretending to like Nascar and secretly are opera fans. Maybe they really are smart but still have names like Billy Bob. It is possible.

[Serial_Worrier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'M')aybe it's a conspiracy by the poll takers to make people who watch Fox News seem dumber than they actually are. Maybe they are just pretending to like Nascar and secretly are opera fans. Maybe they really are smart but still have names like Billy Bob. It is possible.

[Olaf]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'D')ig a little deeper, you have to look at the actual poll. You don't think th New York Times, finding something they didn't want to see, would actually post the data in the article do you?

[Tyler_JC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8KHOgyYyHQ&feature=sub

Fox News Viewers Are Misinformed Study, The Critique

Watch this video, Lee demolishes this "study" of Fox News watchers. It takes 20 minutes so I understand if you're a little pressed for time...but you're on an internet forum. The whole point is to waste time.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'M')aybe it's a conspiracy by the poll takers to make people who watch Fox News seem dumber than they actually are. Maybe they are just pretending to like Nascar and secretly are opera fans. Maybe they really are smart but still have names like Billy Bob. It is possible.

[Revi]

This is a very entertaining thread. You all know I am yanking your chain, don't you? I really don't think Fox News viewers are dumb. It's just another form of propaganda. The other news outlets have their slant as well. They treat us all like mushrooms. They feed us on horse manure and keep us in the dark.

[mos6507]

Well, read it and weep guys. Fox News has officially decided to aim its cross-hairs at peak oil doomers.

I couldn't have written a more pathetically cliche' defense of business as usual in my Xtranormal shows even if I tried.

And to top it off, it comes to us courtesy of an Ayn Rand acolyte:

Alex Epstein is a fellow at the Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights, focusing on business issues. The Ayn Rand Center is a division of the Ayn Rand Institute and promotes the philosophy of Ayn Rand, author of “Atlas Shrugged” and “The Fountainhead.”

It's enough to make me want to burn my copy of Rush's 2112.



Here's what this same guy had to say on Earth Day. Basically it's BAU and fossil fuels to the last drop or hospitals shut down. This is the Chevron "Human Energy" blackmail argument of "our lives depend on oil".