[highlander]

Don't be saying stuff like that Gollum, or you will find yourself under arrest for sex crimes

[Oakley]

I just want to point out that throughout history, those in positions of power have plundered and controlled the majority. Restrictions on speech, control of printing presses imposition of thought control through state religions, control of education, and disarming the population have been common, which is why the US Constitution prohibited violation of the rights to free speech, religion, the press, and ownership of guns.

Of course, now the US Constitution is widely ignored by government, and it seems a large segment of the population support one or another of these impositions on freedom. You cannot pick and choose which of these rights you support or oppose without creating to possibility of all rights being voided. If you are anti gun, anti gay, anti abortion, ant drugs, anti free market, or want government to impose your religious values then you are part of the problem.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('highlander', 'W')hen laws are not based on promoting the common good, but are for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many, are people obliged to obey them ?

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('highlander', 'W')hen laws are not based on promoting the common good, but are for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many, are people obliged to obey them ?

[steam_cannon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('highlander', 'D')on't be saying stuff like that Gollum, or you will find yourself under arrest for sex crimes

[aldente]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('highlander', 'W')hen laws are not based on promoting the common good, but are for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many, are people obliged to obey them ?

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')my Goodman of DemocracyNow is reporting that the State Department has been warning University students about accessing or commenting on WikiLeaks documents. They recently contacted Columbia University to pass on the following message to students who may hope to one day work for the government:

From: Office of Career Services
Date: Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Subject: Wikileaks – Advice from an alum

Hi students,
We received a call today from a SIPA alumnus who is working at the State Department. He asked us to pass along the following information to anyone who will be applying for jobs in the federal government, since all would require a background investigation and in some instances a security clearance.

The documents released during the past few months through Wikileaks are still considered classified documents. He recommends that you DO NOT post links to these documents nor make comments on social media sites such as Facebook or through Twitter. Engaging in these activities would call into question your ability to deal with confidential information, which is part of most positions with the federal government.
Regards,
Office of Career Services
http://www.alterpolitics.com/politics/us-government-threatens-employees-and-college-students-on-wikileaks/

[Unconventional Ideas]

This is McCarthyism in 2010.

Free speech is dead, or dying. Your pick.

And nobody has the guts to stand up for it anymore.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Unconventional Ideas', 'T')his is McCarthyism in 2010.

Free speech is dead, or dying. Your pick.

And nobody has the guts to stand up for it anymore.

[EnergyUnlimited]

If one want to work for a government, s/he must not undermine government's position.
Hence it is not advisable to add embarrassment for your prospective employer.

If one does not consider career with government, s/he doesn't need to care.
Documents released on wikileaks are already in public domain anyway, regardless how secret they originally were.

[careinke]

And here we all thought that government was some nice big comforting mother substitute that works in our self interest and ensures justice prevails. Instead we end up with an evil step mom who constantly searches our room, steals our inheritance, and limits our freedom. Of course she is only doing those things to protect us because she assumes we are to stupid to take care of ourselves.

Unfortunately, some of our siblings have bought into this lie, hook, line, and sinker.

[Cog]

I'm both guilty of reading those classified documents that Wikileaks gave to major new sources and downloaded the encrypted file from his site. Should I be expecting a visit Homeland Security?

To think that its a crime to find out what your country and other countries you interact with are actually thinking instead of what you read in the news, is absolutely amazing to me.

[mattduke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U').S. soldiers in Iraq who try to read about the Wikileaks disclosures—or read coverage of them in mainstream news sites—on unclassified networks get a page warning them that they're about to break the law.

The federal government seems to have lost its mind in a manic game of internet whack-a-mole aimed at getting the Wikileaks State Department cables thrown down the memory hole: First, Sen. Joe Lieberman successfully nudged Amazon into kicking the site off its servers. Then the Library of Congress blocked the site for all employees and users of its computer terminals. Now we learn that the State Department is warning prospective hires that if they write about Wikileaks on Twitter or Facebook, they might not get that job. And now Gawker has learned that military installations in Iraq are trying to keep soldiers from reading about Wikileaks.

A tipster wrote to tell us that "the Army's unclassified, NIPRNET network in Iraq has blocked every major news website because of the Wikileaks issue," going on to say that Foxnews.com, CNN.com, MSNBC.com, the Huffington Post, and a variety of other sites are blocked on the Army's unclassified network. A spokesperson for U.S. forces in Iraq disputed that claim, saying that the web sites aren't actually blocked—it's just that attempts to access them on the unclassified network brings up a warning page saying that you're about to break the law:

[mattduke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Pakistan army has pledged its support for the country's democratic government in an apparent attempt to defuse tensions raised by leaked US embassy cables that stated it might depose President Asif Ali Zardari.

A March 12 2009 cable by former US ambassador to Pakistan Anne Patterson released by WikiLeaks last week revealed that the head of the army, General Ashfaq Kayani, considered pushing Zardari from office and forcing him into exile to resolve a political dispute.

Referring to the cable today, army spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said: "The army has a demonstrated policy of supporting the political process within the confines of the constitution of Pakistan."

[eXpat]

That´s for the new generations that didn´t experience it...

By the way, did you know that the Interpol warrant Is for having sex without a condom? with two adult women??, and yes, is an Interpol warrant!
Assange's Interpol Warrant Is for Having Sex Without a Condom
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')When Interpol issued an arrest warrant earlier this week for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, the international police agency charged him with "sex crimes" but didn't specify the offense any further, prompting rumors that he had been accused of rape. He hadn't. "It turns out," Washington's Blog reports, that "it was for violating an obscure Swedish law against having sex without a condom." During a business trip to Stockholm last August, Assange had unprotected sex with two women (a bizarre and painfully detailed account is available on the Daily Mail's Web site) who upon realizing that they had both slept with him—and that he had blown them both off—jointly approached police about his refusal to take an STD test. At the time, Assange's Swedish lawyer confirmed that "the principal concern the women had about Assange's behavior … related to his lack of interest in using condoms and his refusal to undergo testing, at the women's request, for sexually transmitted disease." (Assange actually did use a condom with one of the women, but it broke.) This, apparently, is hazy legal territory in Sweden. While the "consent of both women to sex with Assange has been confirmed by prosecutors," as a former attorney wrote in an impassioned op-ed, Assange has been charged with something called "sex by surprise," which reportedly carries a $715 fine. According to Assange's London attorney, Mark Stephens, prosecutors have yet to explain the charges or meet with the WikiLeaks chief to discuss them, which he's agreed to do. "Whatever 'sex by surprise' is, it's only an offense in Sweden—not in the U.K. or the U.S. or even Ibiza," Stephens fumed. "I feel as if I'm in a surreal Swedish movie being threatened by bizarre trolls."

[Oakley]

Probably the federal government wants its troops to be loyal to those in power, so that when revolution breaks out, they will fight on the side of government instead of the revolutionaries. They do not want to see the true nature of those at the top who command them when the orders come down to kill fellow citizens.

[ian807]

ThoughtCrime. It's not just for fiction readers anymore!

[Sixstrings]

This is on the front page of Huffpost now.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]WIKI-WARNING
STATE DEPT. OFFICIAL TELLS STUDENTS: DON'T DISCUSS WIKILEAKS ON FACEBOOK OR TWITTER...OR ELSE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/04/state-department-to-colum_n_792059.html

[Cloud9]

We are back to the days of the alien and sedition acts. That started the states talking about nullification. The notion of nullification led to secession and secession led to civil war. We live in interesting times.

[Cog]

The more you tell people not to read something, the more they are going to be inclined to do exactly the opposite. I've read a lot of the raw wiki stuff while their site was still up. Apart from showing the Saudi's are two faced hypocrites and we are funding a criminal enterprise in Afghanistan's government, there wasn't much in there that was that surprising.

The American government has a legitimate reason to go after the private who leaked classified documents but to threaten people who publish them or read them is just plain stupid since it will have the opposite effect then what you intend.

I look forward to the wiki-leaks concerning a major US bank that is going to be released this spring. That is where the real corruption of power is happening.