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THE Dow Jones Industrials (DJI) Thread (merged)

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The Dow Jones will be..

Poll ended at Wed 15 Jun 2005, 20:53:42

Be the same.
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Below 10,000.
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Below 9,000.
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Below 8,000.
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Below 6,000.
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5,000 and below.
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Total votes : 64

Re: Dow set for best September since 1939; hyperinflation?

Unread postby Pops » Mon 04 Oct 2010, 20:44:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'H')ow do you get hyperinflation with stagnant wages? My boss isn't going to magically give me a $10hr/pay raise just because gasoline and food prices have increased.


Hyperinflation needs a different name:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Upthread somewhere I', 'I')nflation is when the economy overheats...
Hyperinflation is the loss of faith in the currency.


I don't think we've ever seen hyperinflation in the US, plain old inflation is everyone wants more dollars, hyperinflation will be when no one wants them. I think if there comes a time the US$ is worth nothing, the S will truly have HTF.
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Re: Dow set for best September since 1939; hyperinflation?

Unread postby Revi » Mon 04 Oct 2010, 21:07:06

I think just regular inflation is going to hurt a lot of people.
We're back to the 70's with stagflation.

The price of everything goes up even though nobody's buying anything.
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Re: Dow set for best September since 1939; hyperinflation?

Unread postby Lore » Mon 04 Oct 2010, 21:33:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'I') think just regular inflation is going to hurt a lot of people.
We're back to the 70's with stagflation.

The price of everything goes up even though nobody's buying anything.


Inflation for the last 12 months is still being held to around 1.1% year-over-year. During the volatile 70s some years were averaging over 10%. As they say, "we an't seen nothin yet"!
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Re: Dow set for best September since 1939; hyperinflation?

Unread postby Pops » Mon 04 Oct 2010, 21:35:15

Revi, I think in the article I linked above (or the sequel) the guy was speculating the stagflation of the 70's might have been a touch of hyper-inflation - seems like being a little pregnant to me.

I guess I'm just hoping for a nice long period of adjustment and de-leveraging like Japan had after their bubble. We need a little attitude adjustment before reality hits the fan. Five or 10 years of moving in with the parents/kids, spending somewhere south of a thousand dollars on Christmas presents for the dog, perhaps even *gasp* putting a little money away for a rainy day...
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Re: Dow set for best September since 1939; hyperinflation?

Unread postby Revi » Tue 05 Oct 2010, 16:19:40

Pops, that would be nice. Unfortunately silver is up over a buck today. That means that it's going up 5% per day. That has to ripple through the economy eventually. We'll end up with hyperinflation if the price of everything follows the price of commodities, which it surely will.
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