[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nano', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'B')ut these scientists didn’t challenge the idea of accelerating technology directly.

[Pops]

One more time,

At what price point will increasing energy cost limit R&D?

[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'O')ne more time,

At what price point will increasing energy cost limit R&D?

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'A')nd the skeptical attitude really is sought by the Singularity crowd, hence, James Randi's presence. It just happened that no one of stature showed up this time around to tear down any presumed castles-built-in-air.

[frood]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', ' ')The Singularity is near…

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frood', 'T')echnological optimism must be balanced by healthy skepticism, or we will blindly pursue pipe dreams while ignoring the arrival of greater benefits and dangers. That’s the final lesson I took away from Singularity Summit 2010"

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '[')b]experimentally non-verifiable mathematical wankery

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '[')b]experimentally non-verifiable mathematical wankery

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '[')b]experimentally non-verifiable mathematical wankery

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'O')ne more time,

At what price point will increasing energy cost limit R&D?

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '[')b]experimentally non-verifiable mathematical wankery

[sparky]

.
There is a whole range of science ,
from the single mathematician working alone in his lounge with a pen and pencil
to the CERN collider which cost tens of billions and employ thousands of scientist and associated staff

the Space programs are a pretty goo example of cut back ,
Even though the communication ( and military ) satellites are doing fine

fundamental physic got so costly , the projects are scaled-back or shelved for good
science departments are starved , just ask any British scientists
an other factor is it's hard , with uncertain job prospects and poor pay

As for applied science and private R&d that has been cut back too
since the factories have gone to new manufacturing countries
What is still going is biology with the brand new field of applied genetics

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')EU is saying that science journals deliberately publish mathematical rubbish in order to pull wool over many eyes. That is just ignorant horsesh*t -- which isn't beautiful at all. She's also claiming (see last page) that Science has peaked NOW - which is also complete rubbish.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')EU is saying that science journals deliberately publish mathematical rubbish in order to pull wool over many eyes. That is just ignorant horsesh*t -- which isn't beautiful at all. She's also claiming (see last page) that Science has peaked NOW - which is also complete rubbish.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'N')o one has said anything about String Theory here in this thread. It is merely a theory and not held out as proven truth in any science journals. There are competitive theories to explain the Universe. Whenever it is possible to test whether or not a given theory is right or wrong, scientists do so. What do you expect from people? That they never venture a hypothesis about anything?

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'N')o one has said anything about String Theory here in this thread. It is merely a theory and not held out as proven truth in any science journals. There are competing theories to explain the Universe. Whenever it is possible to test whether or not a given theory is right or wrong, scientists do so. What do you expect from people? That they never venture a hypothesis about anything?

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')In no way does the discussion about String Theory amongst the physics community impune scientific journals for deliberately publishing mathematical rubbish. Is that what you are trying to pose as an example of "mathematical wankery"? String Theory?

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'Y')ou are relying on academic and industrial PR hype and try to push it as "science".

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')Look, you said that scientific journals deliberately deceive the scientific community and the public by publishing "mathematical wankery" and you gave String Theory as an example. Your whole argument is just farking ridiculous as is everything else you've ever posted.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')Look, you said that scientific journals deliberately deceive the scientific community and the public by publishing "mathematical wankery" and you gave String Theory as an example. Your whole argument is just farking ridiculous as is everything else you've ever posted.