[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'N')o price spike, all the way to $200 / barrel. Everyone gets the opportunity to adjust to new realities with appropriate purchase and lifestyle decisions, and at $200 a barrel all kinds of interesting things become economically viable.

In the end, they may believe that any solution implemented by the government would be worse than the disease. Better to spend your efforts adjusting the global conditions so that the private sector can create solutions that people actually want.

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lakeweb', 'B')ut here is what I see.
If you have seen the PBS Frontlines and read related papers on the 'war', it gets pretty obvious that Rumsfeld had every intention of throwing Iraq into chaos. It meant there would be no succession by the curds and all the oil would remain national. It also meant that Iraqi oil infrastructure would not be developed in a timely fashion. Which means we get to peak oil sooner than latter. Now we have Iran and the threat to bomb them looks pretty realistic. It doesn't matter that they won't be able to spin out enough U235 for even one bomb for many years. The spin is that this has to be addressed now.

So what happens if we bomb Iran in the third or forth quarter? We get a severe oil shock. I'd imagine it goes wrong enough to shut in 20mb/d for some time. Well if this happens, it was meant to happen.

So what is the objective? It can only be to cause so much economic turmoil that China can be confronted by this administration. They must see it their calling to 'save the world' from China becoming a power that soon can't be reckoned with. China knows this. They were duped into trying to displace Taiwan with their cheap labor and got hooked on dollars. But for years they have been poring money into building their military. They know that if they can not stand up to the U.S. militarily that we will cut them from growth by cutting them from oil. The choice for them is internal revolution that they can not stop or a patriotic call to keep them in the global game.

So it looks like the endgame is going to war with China sooner than latter.

Best, Dan.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', ' ')If the US Administration had a grand plan (for this kind of Oil-Resource war) then they would have ALSO done a serious domestic energy conservation program starting years back.

They haven't done it, so therefore they haven't got a plan. Q.E.D.

[grabby]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '
')


They ran the numbers and the math dictated the current response.

Get more oil. Continue growth at all costs.

"The American way of life is not negotiable."

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', ' ')If the US Administration had a grand plan (for this kind of Oil-Resource war) then they would have ALSO done a serious domestic energy conservation program starting years back.

They haven't done it, so therefore they haven't got a plan. Q.E.D.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', ' ')It would help when planning a war in the oilfields ;o)

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', ' ')It would help when planning a war in the oilfields ;o)

[timbo]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '
')So to these, 'neo-cons' you speak of. Are they infectious? We had something similar over here about 60 years ago, but I thought that particular plague had been eradicated from the planet....

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', ' ')So to these, 'neo-cons' you speak of. Are they infectious? We had something similar over here about 60 years ago, but I thought that particular plague had been eradicated from the planet....

[azreal60]

Hehe, plug monte plug. I don't think you make much money if you send free copies out. But hey, not everyone's about money are they? =_)

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '
')Send me a pm with your e-mail and I will forward a pdf file of my book, Madmen at the Helm. there is a review of it in the Book Review forum.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('azreal60', 'H')ehe, plug monte plug. I don't think you make much money if you send free copies out. But hey, not everyone's about money are they? =_)

[JPL]

Hi MQ,

OK I've read the book (as per my email, here is my reply to it).

I find it well written, coherent and utterly scary. On balance, I think you are 'probably' right.

So now to my Global Warming & Peak Oil worries, I now have to add the threat of invasion by mad Illuminated Congressmen. This does not make me feel good (

As per my posts elsewhere on the forum, I increasingly feel my inuition to stick in an extra 50 yards of potatoes this year is going to prove itself right...

JPL

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', 'H')i MQ,

OK I've read the book (as per my email, here is my reply to it).

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', ' ')I have had this same response from several other quarters recently, and the fact that people seem to be incapable of watching a simple documentary is really strange. I'm not excatly pushing it down people's throats, I'm just saying 'watch this', and yet they don't.

What is this syndrome?

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReserveGrowthRulz', '
')Or...they went into survival mode the FIRST time people started proclaiming doom ( and they are still trying to get rid of <fill in the time> aged peanut butter from their horde in the bomb shelter ) because of oil ( pick your century, prophet, decade or reason ) and decided maybe they shouldn't be quite as gullible THIS time around?

[SoothSayer]

Intuitively, people know the "best" is about over.
They don't want to know how soon.

Very good point.

It seems that people aren't very clear about what the heck is happening or is about to happen.

However many people seem to be "absorbing" all the data they are receiving from the news, governments, scientists, economists and are somehow subconsciously "joining the dots" ... to get them an uncomfortable feeling.

The human brain is very good at merging data and identifying possible threats. This is happening now and alarm bells are ringing ... but the threat is hard to place.

[SoothSayer]

Very well said pstarr.

A couple of regular posters make out that they have "special knowledge" ... but as time goes on you realise that they simply like being contrary "pundits", and have no more idea of Peak Oil than the rest of us.