[strider3700]

It's dark out so I can't take a picture but the MARS water bomber is parked in the harbour out front.
http://www.martinmars.com/aircraft.htm I'm pretty sure it was the Hawaii MARS but I didn't get a good look as it landed. Anyways it's on it's way down and should get there end of tommorrow or early thursday. Seeing those pictures of the crappy helicopter bombers it should really help. It's a very impressive sight going overhead. When fully loaded they fly so slow they look like they will just fall out of the sky.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'G')od bless the FD's. To believe they discriminate is ludicrous.

[wisconsin_cur]

a. I won't hijack the title but all of the news sources I see put the number evacuated at 500,000 or half of the number at the top of the thread (130 am CDT 10/24/2007)

b.People in Fire's Path ask 'why me'

Because you live in a tinder box and in the real world this has consequences.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '�')��Yes, they managed to save my Porsche,” Mr. Jaffe said. “But I’d much rather they had saved my daughter’s stuffed animals.”

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'I')f the former than I would say they have to keep up appearances (saving the homes of the "little guy")

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', ' ')Perhaps, however, they are trying to keep the television images of large houses going up in flames off the airwaves... this would be the politically astute thing to do since rich people are more likely and more effective at "demanding accountability" than poor people.

[pup55]

San Diego Road Closures

Got a question for somebody out there: Are people moving around the city OK? I see that the 5 is closed at some point north of the city.

Are people outside the fire area staying home, or going to work?

[holmes]

cur,
i do agree that insurance companies tend to be scumbags!

[Byron100]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'c')ur,
i do agree that insurance companies tend to be scumbags!

[holmes]

Byron your are so right! What comes around goes around. karma is going to smote the insurance ponzi racket down. Just a matter of time. They also will want to put the burden on taxpayers who are not even near the affected area.

[Revi]

A million evacuated! Is that one of the biggest evacuations ever? How many were evacuated from New Orleans?

[PenultimateManStanding]

The local commercial AM radio station, KOGO has not played any commercials for the past few days. Many businesses are donating what they have. U-Haul is giving free storage, 7-11 is giving free bottled water, etc. It gives me hope for the coming energy crisis. I have a pretty doomeristic viewpoint but this gives me pause to consider what the reaction will be when it becomes clear to everyone what danger we are in.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '.')..It gives me hope for the coming energy crisis. I have a pretty doomeristic viewpoint but this gives me pause to consider what the reaction will be when it becomes clear to everyone what danger we are in.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'A') million evacuated! Is that one of the biggest evacuations ever? How many were evacuated from New Orleans?

[paimei01]

Conspiracy :
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread310856/pg1

[whatpeak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', '[')url=http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist11/news/2007news/92-07.doc]San Diego Road Closures[/url]

Got a question for somebody out there: Are people moving around the city OK? I see that the 5 is closed at some point north of the city.

Are people outside the fire area staying home, or going to work?

[jato]

More pics from today:

Bombing East Grade Road, Palomar Mountain

East Grade Road

Fire crews working on East Grade Road, trying to save the houses on Crestline Road

On top of Palomar looking southwest

A prepared homeowner who saved his own home

[strider3700]

Are you able to tell us more about the guy that saved his own home?

[jato]

Yes. He lives on top of a hill covered in brush. He knew the dangers of fire from seeing the "Paradise Fire" from 2003.

Two years ago he bought turnout clothing, goggles, face/neck/hand protection and fire hoses. He knew the day was coming when he would have to defend his home from fire. He had a fire-hose bib on his house and a wrench to open the fire hydrant (feed by well water stored in a tank).

10-23-07. 0300 hours: He awoke and saw the fire about 1 mile away headed for his house. He prepped his gear and waited. When the fire approached he panicked and decided to leave. An Indian Fire Fighter arrived and talked him into staying to fight the fire (something conventional fire fighters would be reprimanded for).

The homeowner went to open the fire hydrant valve. He had not exercised the valve at the recommended intervals. It wouldn’t open! He switched to his backup hose bib on the house plumbing (special 1.5 inch underground line he installed to feed the house fire hose bib). The homeowner saved his own house while the Indians saved a couple of neighboring houses. One house next door didn't make it (double wide trailer). It sat too far away from the road. It burned to the ground.

[strider3700]

so a few hundred in equipment and some advanced planning and he saved his house. Good to hear it works out for the preppers sometimes.

[TT]

You know, this is really very interesting.

In Aussie most people in bushfire areas now stay and defend their houses from fire. Since the authorities started encouraging this we have lost far fewer houses to fire. With proper preparation it is really possible to save your home.