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Nearly 1,000,000 flee fires in San Diego area

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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 08:52:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')pparently. You ought to see the teensy tiny little rustic old cabins they're trying to save up in the mountains. That's where they're sending the DC-10 firebomber.


It has been 30 years since I have been anywhere near San Diego. Are those "rustic cabins" full time occupied residences or the rustic cabins we have here for weekend getaways for the upper middle class? How much do they sell for?

If the former than I would say they have to keep up appearances (saving the homes of the "little guy"). I doubt we keep 1 hour's worth of flame retardant foam up here. If the latter, it supports my point. The upper middle class of So. Cal is the aristocracy here in the midwest.
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby Zardoz » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 10:18:53

Up to 700 homes lost now:

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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby Zardoz » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 10:25:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'I')f the former than I would say they have to keep up appearances (saving the homes of the "little guy")

What a profound insult to anybody who ever put on a firefighter's helmet. You actually think fire departments prioritize by wealth and social status?

What the hell kind of personal issues do you have that would make you spew such horseshit?
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby roccman » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 10:30:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'I')f the former than I would say they have to keep up appearances (saving the homes of the "little guy")

What a profound insult to anybody who ever put on a firefighter's helmet. You actually think fire departments prioritize by wealth and social status?

What the hell kind of personal issues do you have that would make you spew such horseshit?



Absolutely Zardoz...

The rich have always been prioritized over the poor why does this come as a shock to you?
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby Ferretlover » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 10:33:31

What is the water situation at or near the fires? What is being used to combat the fires-water, foan, or a combination?
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby holmes » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 12:26:01

It is good to see your all ok, Jato...
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby jato » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 13:38:51

The Witch fire hit my town today. The FD is doing a kick ass job on saving the houses which are defendable. Rich/poor did not enter the equasion.

More pics and comments later tonight.... (hopefully)
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 14:37:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'I')f the former than I would say they have to keep up appearances (saving the homes of the "little guy")

What a profound insult to anybody who ever put on a firefighter's helmet. You actually think fire departments prioritize by wealth and social status?

What the hell kind of personal issues do you have that would make you spew such horseshit?
I concur with this. The firefighters will do what they can and they don't discriminate by wealth.
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby holmes » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 14:42:39

God bless the FD's. To believe they discriminate is ludicrous.
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby eXpat » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 15:17:25

jato & PenultimateManStanding, stay safe and take care.
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 16:37:57

update: 513,000 people evacuated.
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 17:23:19

My thoughts are with you guys, PMS and Jato. Be safe.
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 17:37:14

Thanks for all your good wishes, but jato is much more danger than I am. Aside from that, I've lived in this town for 53 years and never seen anything like this. Things are changing.
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby Chuckmak » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 17:46:42

to those out there...PLEASE BE SAFE AND GET OUT IF ASKED!
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby UncoveringTruths » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 17:58:51

If you were close to foreclosure would you light up your house if a fire were near?

Just thought I would throw that out there!

PO members Stay safe! I'm sure my cousin is in there fighting these fires somewhere.
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby jato » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 19:09:53

My family, my house and I are going to be okay. I took these this morning:

Structure on Rincon Reservation



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Brush next to road (Rincon)



Structure on Rincon



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Ash on the hood of my car parked at my home.



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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby Zardoz » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 20:07:11

More evacuations and new fires

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here was no official figure for the number of people forced to flee, but the fires were being called the state's largest evacuation crisis. San Diego officials said they had ordered 346,000 homes evacuated. At more than two people per home and with evacuations elsewhere, that could mean more than 700,000 people have fled to shelters, hotels, relatives and friends.

The extent of the damage was widespread, with more than 400,000 acres burned. More than 1,500 homes and other structures were destroyed, 1,300 in San Diego alone.


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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby Daculling » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 20:22:50

Thanks for the images Jato. As PMS knows Lake Hodges area was my boyhood home. Looks like it burned from the maps. Don't take any unnecessary risks. Let us know if you need anything.
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby Troyboy1208 » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 22:35:28

This is getting worse and worse by the minute it seems...MSNbc is reporting one million people under evacuation and the streets are clogged with people trying to leave. I hope they dont get trapped
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Re: Nearly 250,000 flee fires in San Diego area

Unread postby Zardoz » Tue 23 Oct 2007, 23:11:28

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