[Mesuge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NTBKtrader', 'T')he only way to avoid fascism is to kill all the white people.

[grabby]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', '
')
Keep dreaming grabby, there's plenty of oil left for TPTB to implement mitigation to their liking. One thing TPTB don't get enough of is credit, oh right they're incompetent.

[greenworm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') hope you don't honestly believe that.

[rwwff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grabby', 'i')nevitable when the "destroyer of worlds" is released.. Google this phrase along with "oppenheimer".

[greenworm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') was asking whether you believed that you had successfully avoided eating any GMO food. I'm not sure its even possible.

[Kingcoal]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'T')here's some hope in the midst.

This guy, Aaron Russo, has been trying to get his private well researched documentary about the corrupt central banking system in the US into a mass-theatrical release to no avail for a while now. He's finally managed to get contracted for a limited release. I'm just suprised how far it's got, considering it's an obvious threat to people in high places.

http://www.fromfreedomtofascism.com/

This one's worth keeping an eye on, that's for sure!

[mmasters]

I saw the premiere of Freedom to Fascism tonight in New York. The movie is being released in a "limited release" this weekend. Here in New York it is being released in 2 theatres, one on the upper east side and one on the lower east side. Otherwise it is being released in 5 or 6 other cities (see the website). I encourage everyone to see it that possibly can. The more attention this thing gets the better for any possibility it may have to get a mainstream release (like An Inconvienient Truth or Farenheight 911).

Far as the film it was a little under 2 hours and excellent to say the least. It covered everything from the income tax fraud; to the police state this country moving towards; the corrupt central banking system (the crux of the film); the defunct political system; future laws; erosions of Civil Liberties; Executive Orders; RFID chips; and even coming around to the Bilderburg Group/CFR Globalists. The arguements are well spoken and constructed to the point the average person could well gain a reasonable understanding of it all.

The audience was definitely riled up - afterwards the reactions were mixed. Some were alarmed and frantic, others showing signs of denial, some overwhelmed and then some like myself that sat quiet and already understood most everything being presented.

I think this Russo guy is doing a really noble thing and has some balls to go to the lengths he has in presenting this. I for sure hope he makes some kind of dent in the public eye. On the other hand, I am not too hopeful of this thing starting any kind of revolution, but it might cause enough of a stir to void some of these future "police state" measures being put into law. In any case I wish him the best and encourage everyone to see it.

[jupiters_release]

I saw this tonight and wasn't very impressed. The information is good but presented way too dramatically. Taking a more academic approach would do better at educating viewers. At the end he says we need to demonstrate, march, protest, and practice civil disobedience which I think is really bad advice. Grassroots activism cannot touch the Federal Reserve and preaching that insults our intelligence. We're so close to TSHTF enjoying whatever harmony and culture we have left is a much wiser choice imo.

[Chuck]

shortonoil wrote;

Some analysis project that the FED will soon reach “cross over”- the time when it can not create enough money to service the country’s present $43 trillion bond issuance, and become insolvent.

Can you explain that, links maybe?
I cannot see any limit in/to the amount of money "creation".

[lateralus]

I love how most people believe that the Federal Reserve is some kind of government institution, but is in fact nothing more than a privately owned corporation. The American government exists to serve that private business. That makes the public whores to a pimp.

Give them bread and circuses.

Politicans know who their masters are...and it is not the American people. That's why I laugh at the "left wing/ right wing", Republican vs. Democrat "debate". Its a sham pure and simple and the mainstream media, which are nothing more than corporations owned by said larger corporation, is the spoon that feeds.

"The regional Federal Reserve banks are not government agencies. ...but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations." -- Lewis vs. United States, 680 F. 2d 1239 9th Circuit 1982

[greenworm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat's why I laugh at the "left wing/ right wing", Republican vs. Democrat "debate".

[Mesuge]

Well, the movie has an importat message but lets face it the majority knows who ordered the slaughter of JFK/MLK/RFK and have you seen any riots lately about it? That will be the same withe any limited exposure of the FED - in the end people will just mumble about how it was great in the old days without the RFID chips and that's all..

[roman]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7215293198 An interview with filmmaker Arron Russo talking about his documentary: "America: From Freedom to Facism"

He makes a tangible link to how the USA works, particularly the federal reserve, our constitutional laws in regards to income tax, and how American government has turned into a 'Corporacracy' (which he explains is the original meaning of "fascism"), showing our true rights as individuals has been masked by our living in a debt-latent society.

He doesn't speak of Peak Oil, but much of what he says can be extrapolated to conditions relating from peak oil. Towards the end he notes that the government knows things are becoming an end-game, that they have planned for a state of martial law -- (He claims there are 800 federal internment camps hidden across the USA.)

[Fergus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roman', 'h')ttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3254488777215293198

An interview with filmmaker Arron Russo talking about his documentary: "America: From Freedom to Facism"

He makes a tangible link to how the USA works, particularly the federal reserve, our constitutional laws in regards to income tax, and how American government has turned into a 'Corporacracy' (which he explains is the original meaning of "fascism"), showing our true rights as individuals has been masked by our living in a debt-latent society.

He doesn't speak of Peak Oil, but much of what he says can be extrapolated to conditions relating from peak oil.

Towards the end he notes that the government knows things are becoming an end-game, that they have planned for a state of martial law -- (He claims there are 800 federal internment camps hidden across the USA.)

[perdition79]

I don't know if there's 800 internment camps, but supposedly there's enough capacity for over 3 million people. Halliburton had the contracts on them.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/fe ... ncamps.htm

btw, 'freedom to fascism' was a good documentary. Real good. Even if it was played in the smallest auditorium in the largest theater in tampa, on a damn DVD player (wasn't even on film!)

Of course the usual conspiracy theory/red pill crowd showed up, everybody already knew the material presented, and most of us were laughing at the revealing truths designed to make the typical oblivious American soil himself. Some guy was handing out fairtax.org handbills.

The one thing that got me about this movie was that most of it was fact, and the speculation about our horribly oppressive totalitarian future society was held until the end of the movie.

[Carlhole]

film
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('www.fromfreedomtofascism.com', ' ')AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM Synopsis
Determined to find the law that requires Americans to pay income tax, Aaron Russo (THE ROSE, TRADING PLACES) sets out on a journey. Neither left- nor right-wing, this startling examination exposes the systematic erosion of civil liberties in America. Through interviews with US Congressmen, a former IRS Commissioner, former IRS and FBI agents, tax attorneys and authors, Russo connects the dots between money creation, federal income tax, voter fraud, the national identity card (becoming law in May 2008) and the implementation of radio frequency identification (RFID) technology to track citizens. A striking case about the evolving police state in America.

[qwerty]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'h')ttp://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3719132275557884702&hl=en-CA

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('www.fromfreedomtofascism.com', '
')AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM Synopsis

Determined to find the law that requires Americans to pay income tax, Aaron Russo (THE ROSE, TRADING PLACES) sets out on a journey. Neither left- nor right-wing, this startling examination exposes the systematic erosion of civil liberties in America. Through interviews with US Congressmen, a former IRS Commissioner, former IRS and FBI agents, tax attorneys and authors, Russo connects the dots between money creation, federal income tax, voter fraud, the national identity card (becoming law in May 2008) and the implementation of radio frequency identification (RFID) technology to track citizens. A striking case about the evolving police state in America.

[seahorse2]

Guys,

Believe facts, don't simply believe something you hear. Here's a site that debunks all these common misconceptions about the IRS and unconstitutionality of the tax system, including the alleged unconstitutionality of the income tax.

Tax System

[TommyJefferson]

Thanks Seahorse. Interesting link.

I liked this quote:

"The Seventh Circuit has made the following observation:

"Some people believe with great fervor preposterous things that just happen to coincide with their self-interest."

Ha! Reminds me of me sometimes.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse2', 'G')uys,

Believe facts, don't simply believe something you hear. Here's a site that debunks all these common misconceptions about the IRS and unconstitutionality of the tax system, including the alleged unconstitutionality of the income tax.

Tax System