[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he South was granted a dispensation to use their icons as ornaments. Its about time that that was clearly established for all and sundry.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')heriff’s Response to a 911 Call About the Confederate Flag Is AWESOME!

This afternoon, we received a call on a non-emergency line concerning Confederate flags being displayed in Oconee County. The caller believed the flags were on county property.

I personally went to check the location of the flags. They are on private property. One flag is the 1864 Confederate National Flag, and the other is the 1956 Georgia State Flag.

Even if they were on county property, such would not be a crime.

We are well known around here for being supporters of the Second Amendment. We’re pretty fond of the First Amendment as well. In fact, the only Amendment we really aren’t fond of is the 16th Amendment. (Now all you folks that didn’t pay attention in 7th grade Civics have to look that one up. I’m sneaky that way).

Chief Deputy Weems.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/sheriffs-response-to-a-911-call-about-the-confederate-flag-is-awesome/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ThePoliticalInsider+%28The+Political+Insider%29

[americandream]

Plantaganet

The word dispensation has a broad meaning in constitutional law and includes allowing the enemy to run for office, the courts in this instance will infer from the context that agreement was reached after defeat that the vanquished would run for office subject to acting and being seen to be loyal to the victors constitutional objects, subject of course to reasonable allowance being made for exceptional artefacts and reasonable beliefs.

Ordinarily following civil wars all attempts are made to erase the vanquished from history. In this instance the landowning class of the South who were seeking to dethrone the bourgeoisie class in the North.

[americandream]

Anyways I am going to end this discussion here as far as my participation goes. If you people think that it is alright to encourage public displays of something associated with slavery in increasing public presence in a country where you have a sizeable black population, one that has in recent times been harrassed and murdered under it, and one that is patently not pleased with their predicament going by what we see on the news from time to time, and that such a belief is reasonably founded, who am I to argue with you.

[Cog]

My flag is on backorder. This does not amuse me.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Ordinarily following civil wars all attempts are made to erase the vanquished from history.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'M')y flag is on backorder. This does not amuse me.

[Sixstrings]

Doing a civil war history post..

I liked how things used to be in the past, and civil war history was objectively presented -- just scholarly real history (think Ken Burns on PBS, not Nancy Pelosi shrieking on the House floor and Apple's CEO deciding all of history in one 140 character twitter tweet), we should have history without political bent or preaching one way or another but just presenting what the history was.

I'm concerned about history just being banned, that once that happens then there are no local historical societies anymore -- because the entirety of history somehow becomes politically incorrect -- and then PBS just doesn't air old documentaries anymore, and new ones don't get produced.

That museums get shut down, and historical sites and parks -- or that stone mountain is just "sandblasted off," etc.

So here's a couple historical youtubes.

Three minute video about ft. sumter and the startup of the war. It talks about the border states, and martial law declared in maryland with suspension of habeas corpus and then how that set off the supreme court and then they were arguing with Lincoln, then Lincoln packed the court with more justices:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')ort Sumter and the Civil War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv-pTU99RcY

[Withnail]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')
See that's what I mean by you are trolling, your purpose in this thread is not having a discussion of the issue -- you're british anyway, why would you care or be interested in it -- but you just want to make your usual anti-American positions.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Withnail', 'I')'m interested in American issues because Britain is a puppet state of America.

Obviously subject peoples are, indeed have to be, interested in what goes on in the imperialist state.

[Withnail]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')
Well.. it's all up to the UK, whatever role they want to have in world affairs.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Withnail', 'N')o, it's up to the US, unless or until the US is overthrown as hegemon.

[Withnail]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Withnail', 'N')o, it's up to the US, unless or until the US is overthrown as hegemon.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Withnail', ' ')Britain is a puppet state of America.....

[Withnail]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Withnail', ' ')Britain is a puppet state of America.....

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'O')K, if Britain is a puppet state of the USA, when will Britain get with the program and ban confederate flags in the UK?

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Withnail', '
')They are likely already banned ...

[Withnail]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Withnail', '
')They are likely already banned ...

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')img]http://www.duffelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/west-point-confederates-750x400.jpg[/img]

West Point Revokes Diplomas Of Confederate Graduates

WEST POINT, N.Y. ─ Following the decision of the South Carolina government to remove the Confederate flag from a state memorial, and the subsequent, nation-wide uproar over all things Confederate, West Point has announced that it will posthumously revoke the diplomas of all cadets who graduated from the Academy and fought for the South during the Civil War.

“This sends a clear message to slave-owners and those who would fight for such a horrific cause that 150 years after most of them died we will not tolerate such atrocities on American soil,” said Lt. Col. Thomas Jackson, a spokesman for the school.

When asked if this decision signaled a change in the Army’s stance on not changing the names of bases named after Confederate officers, most of whom graduated from West Point, Jackson replied that it did not. The cost of altering the signs, street names, maps, military shipping inventories, and other changes necessary to implement the removal just so people wouldn’t be offended would be astronomical, he explained.

“But this is no small matter,” he added. “A revoked graduate status means they will no longer be able to order transcripts, obtain early tickets for West Point football games, or receive their 10 percent discount at the Cadet Bookstore.”

The ceremony will be held next week, when cadets will symbolically burn hundreds of recreated, historically accurate diplomas in a bonfire at the cadet monument. After the diplomas are consumed in the blaze, the monument will be torn down, since it was built to honor Vincent Lowe, a cadet who died in an 1817 artillery misfire and had an uncle who once owned a slave, explained a source familiar with the event.

Jackson also said that USMA leaders are debating the merits of removing Gen. Robert E. Lee’s half of the Appomattox surrender document that ended the Civil War, currently stored in the Cadet Library.
http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/07/west-point-revokes-confederate-diplomas/

[Lore]

Brits are not so hung up on flags as those here in the U.S. You should know that Plant, being the world traveller you are?