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Re: Hi everyone! From Melbourne, Australia..

Unread postby elisse37 » Sun 13 Jul 2008, 07:26:47

until we start to see the effects of the decline of oil production, of course, did I have to spell it out, I thought this was what this site was about, if not, please let me know ohanian, and I will go some where else... obviously it is going to affect Australia and NZ in different ways to the US.
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Re: Hi everyone! From Melbourne, Australia..

Unread postby elisse37 » Sun 13 Jul 2008, 07:38:57

BTW, I don't care if the pope is a virgin :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Hi everyone! From Melbourne, Australia..

Unread postby ohanian » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 03:10:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('elisse37', 'u')ntil we start to see the effects of the decline of oil production, of course, did I have to spell it out, I thought this was what this site was about, if not, please let me know ohanian, and I will go some where else... obviously it is going to affect Australia and NZ in different ways to the US.


We are already seeing the effects of the decline of oil production.

It's called high oil prices.

It's like the fall and decline of the roman empire.

You cannot point to a single day and say "On the day, the roman empire declined."
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hi from new member in the Poconos, Pennsylvania

Unread postby girlscout » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 16:11:03

Hi everyone. I've been lurking around these forums for several months now, and finally decided to sign up for an account.

Like everyone else here, I'm sure, I've been finding myself watching the news and events of the past several years unfold, and getting a little bit more nervous about the future. For a long time, I toyed with the idea of becoming better prepared for a post-Peak Oil world, and worried that I was, perhaps, jumping into a fringe element. However, I've realized that it's best to be prepared for any scenario. In my part of the world, that could be losing power for 3 weeks because of a severe ice storm (happened a few years back) or being stuck in your car for 9 hours in a snowstorm waiting to be dug out by the plow (happened to my brother's ex). Having extra supplies on hand and a bit of a backup plan is handy even for these "little" emergencies, even if the bigger doo doo never hits the fan.

Lately I've been reading everything I can get my hands on regarding peak oil, survival textbooks, gardening, food preservation, and other topics - thank you interlibrary loan! My husband began to think I was a little loony for the choice of reading material, but over recent discussions, I think he also understands why it would behoove us to prepare for anything that life may throw at us. We can certainly hope that life will remain cushy and comfy and nothing is going to change, but as someone once said, hope for the best and plan for the worst, right?

Anyway, it's nice to finally join you all, and I look forward to jumping in and participating in the forums discussions. I've already learned so much just by lurking here. Thank you!

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Re: hi from new member in the Poconos, Pennsylvania

Unread postby RonMN » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 16:29:29

Welcome girlscout!

It sounds like you have a good attitude about prep work & a good mental handle on things.

Hope for the best but plan for the worst is a great way to view things.

Glad to have you onboard.
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Re: hi from new member in the Poconos, Pennsylvania

Unread postby Cashmere » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 17:02:49

Welcome . . .
as for this . . .
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')even if the bigger doo doo never hits the fan.

Stop dreaming kid. I want to believe that this is all a bad dream too, but let's look at the last 3 days:

2nd biggest bank failure in history, U.S..
50% of mortgage industry on the verge of nationalization.
Stock markets down huge in the last 6 months.
CDS on U.S. treasuries signaling danger.

Sorry, it's hitting the fan now, it's just going to get worse.

Stop having doubts.

Remove all doubt.

Your gut is right. Trust your gut, which is telling you to prep like a fiend.

You are right.
Massive Human Dieoff <b>must</b> occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where <b>you</b> live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
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Re: hi from new member in the Poconos, Pennsylvania

Unread postby Kingcoal » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 17:39:06

Hello, girlscout, welcome. I'm in Allentown, not far away.
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Re: hi from new member in the Poconos, Pennsylvania

Unread postby girlscout » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 18:47:18

Thanks everyone.

Yeah, I know... I'm just trying to be optimistic, but I don't see things getting better anytime soon. This has all been a lonnng time coming.

I have a son that is almost 8 months old, and I worry about his future. A big part of the reason that I want to be prepared for anything life throws at us is him.

Oddly enough, I've always been interested in survival skills, and felt like someday we were going to be heading to a harder world... even when I was a child. It probably has something to do with growing up in the 1970s and witnessing odd and even license plate days at the gas stations.

In college, I wrote a paper on the theory of evolutionary potential about 12 years ago, and this was the first I really starting to learn about peak oil. Societies that are based up one resource will eventually fall when that resource is limited or access to it removed. These societies also tend to become more specialized with time, and with this specialization, people lose the basic skills they once had to survive. This is evident in the fact that today most folks in the U.S. would have no clue how to go about procuring food if the grocery store closed its doors, and couldn't do half the things that were common in their grandparents' generation.

It frightens me that our lifestyle is balanced in such a fragile way on the prospect of cheap oil. Well, I don't need to go into all of this, as I'd be preaching to the choir here. And yes, I am prepping like a fiend. I'm just glad that I've gotten my hubby on board, as this makes it a lot easier. Even a little thing like picking up some extra food for storage each time we go out for groceries is a step in the right direction...

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Re: hi from new member in the Poconos, Pennsylvania

Unread postby katnipkid » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 19:38:34

Thank you for sharing that info on how bad the winter can be in the mountains. I have been through that part of PA. The northern part of PA is beautiful. I knew that the winters up there were bad, but didn't know just how bad. Wow. Stuck for 9 hours, and no power for 3 weeks. Yikes!
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Re: hi from new member in the Poconos, Pennsylvania

Unread postby Ferretlover » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 20:48:59

Welcome, girlscout, to PeakOil.com!
Try to read as much as you can, when you can. Also remember to take breaks-the topics here can be quite overwhelming at times.
Check the "how to get around on this site without losing your mind" (in the welcome section) for great posting tips.
Feel free to ask questions as they arise, and don't forget to check your mail (the message option above).
Finally, don't let panic get to you-we have time. Not a lot, but we still have time to prepare. :)
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Re: Hi everyone! From Melbourne, Australia..

Unread postby alokin » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 00:21:37

Australia still seems to be quite far away from all the mess. Today I saw petrol for $1.49 - who will save really with this price?
As for the roosters it is forbidden and it works as long as nobody complains. If your chicken run is visible from the street or for the neighbours you should get a rooster who does not really look like a rooster, there are lots of people who can't tell them apart.

I hope that these stupid regulations are falling soon. We have lots of traffic noise, airplanes and industry, why complaining about a little crowing? That's too stupid.
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Re: Hi everyone! From Melbourne, Australia..

Unread postby elisse37 » Wed 16 Jul 2008, 07:58:44

ohanian, you are right, my wishes for answers were way too optimistic, plus I was very grumpy the other night when I responded, apologies for snapping.

alokin, we paid around $1.59 per litre today, but I agree that Australia is far away from the mess...
We had a neighbour with a rooster a few years ago and it was loud, but I think we could exercise a bit of control, like just getting in a roo for a few weeks to do the bizz then popping him on the bbq.... or maybe we could borrow one... ultimately I would rather live further from town on more land where it would not be a problem.
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Just want to introduce myself

Unread postby CherBear1983 » Wed 16 Jul 2008, 12:04:11

I just joined this forum, I've been reading a lot of the posts that people have made and I'm glad that I found this website and hopefully I can learn more about this topic. I've been hearing about "Peak Oil" for the past couple of years but never really understood what it meant; I knew that oil was a non-renewable resource that would eventually run out, but I never knew much about the effects that Peak Oil will have. I've been googling my brains out for the past few weeks and am amazed at what I've been learning, and wondering why I'm not hearing more about this in the media. Also, I've tried to talk about this with my friends and family but they are getting irritated with me and they don't want to hear about Peak Oil anymore, and most of them don't believe that it is true!! My boyfriend thinks that it will happen in 600 years.
So I am really glad to find a place where I can discuss without irritating anyone (hopefully) :D
So I'm 25 years old, from Newfoundland, Canada ... currently living in South Korea though, as an English teacher (and yes I am aware of the amount of oil that is used to transport me halfway across the world, but I always walk everywhere or take the bus! :)
I don't think I will ever own a car ... I've been thinking about buying a bike though ...
Anyway, that's me. I hope I can be a valuable contribution to the discussion but I don't know much about this topic yet so be patient!! :)
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Re: Just want to introduce myself

Unread postby kpeavey » Wed 16 Jul 2008, 12:08:42

Welcome aboard.
Here's a start on your homework:
Peak Oil 101, An Introduction to Peak Oil
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever."
-George Orwell, 1984
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twenty centuries of stony sleep were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, and what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
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Re: Just want to introduce myself

Unread postby Homesteader » Wed 16 Jul 2008, 12:19:50

Welcome!

Great to have a Newfoundlander on the board. I ran a fishing camp in Labrador for four years and some of my guides were from Newfoundland.

While we considered a school in S. Korea my wife and I leave next month to teach in Kuwait. The schools superintendent is from Nova Scotia.

Read, learn all you can, ask questions and plan accordingly.
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Re: Just want to introduce myself

Unread postby coyote » Wed 16 Jul 2008, 13:05:20

Hi CherBear.

As tough as it is to discuss peak oil with people now, it was a lot tougher a few years ago, when gas was barely two bucks a gallon.

They're catching on - slowly. Eventually it'll be common knowledge. We have from now until then - whenever that might be - to prepare ourselves. Make sure to spend lots of time in the Planning for the Future forum.

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Unread postby Shaka » Wed 16 Jul 2008, 16:04:59

It's that state with the big mountains incase anyone was wondering. :P

Been lurking for a while now and decided I might as well join.

I'm a 19 year old female, lived in Colorado most of my life. I'm not currently working becuase of a medication I'm currently on, but hopefully by the end of the month I will be able to.
I'm not going to a college either. I have no desire to, and there's nothing I wish to learn, that would require a good college degree. Plus it's just to expensive.

I still live at home to, not just because of the medication but because it's cheaper. I hope that once I get a job I'll be able to pay for my own things. I'm already doing my best to live "Green" of course. Always been a huge nature fan.

I hope to eventually own at least 1 acre of land, and get myself a small compact home. Haven't really decided what kind though. I don't need a large home, always hated large buildings anyways. A cheap one would be nice. I've been looking at Tipis, Yurts, and even Sheds.

I like it here already. :D
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Re: Just want to introduce myself

Unread postby CherBear1983 » Wed 16 Jul 2008, 20:45:15

Thanks for the welcomes and the info. I will be doing my homework!! :)

Homesteader, are you going to an international school? I have been in Korea for almost a year now, but just at a hagwon. It is almost time for me to return to Canada but I plan to come back here again in a few months.
I was surprised to meet someone on this forum who has been to NL. I meet a lot of people online who haven't heard of it.
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Re: Just want to introduce myself

Unread postby Homesteader » Wed 16 Jul 2008, 22:28:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CherBear1983', 'T')hanks for the welcomes and the info. I will be doing my homework!! :)

Homesteader, are you going to an international school? I have been in Korea for almost a year now, but just at a hagwon. It is almost time for me to return to Canada but I plan to come back here again in a few months.
I was surprised to meet someone on this forum who has been to NL. I meet a lot of people online who haven't heard of it.


Yes we will be at an international school.

We flew to camp out of Labrador City. In my estimation the Labrador Plateau is one of the great places on the planet.
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Unread postby Mannta » Thu 17 Jul 2008, 22:24:51

Hi everyone! I've been lurking for awhile reading the site on my phone most of the time, but I'm finding out I read this site more and more at home, so I finally decided to post. I'm from texas and preparing for the worst.

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