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Global Population Decline And Economic Growth

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Rising population was thought to be bad for our standard of living, with classic books such as Limits to Growth and Population Bomb projecting fewer resources per person and environmental collapse. A new book, Empty Planet, makes the forecast that world population will hit a peak and then decline. The authors take this as positive in general, with some challenges along the way. I want to focus on one downside of less population: fewer one-in-a-million people.

The old pessimists made very poor forecasts. Famine did not kill millions of people. The air in developed countries got cleaner, not dirtier. The world produced more food, not less. The prices of oil and other commodities did not soar persistently. The pessimists missed how technological improvement would enable the world to grow more food, use fewer finite resources per unit of production, and improve environmental quality all at the same time. Those technological improvements didn’t just happen, but were the result of people finding better ways to do things. The green revolution in agriculture is a good example, and owes much to one great scientist, Norman Borlaug. Behind many of the great innovations of the past century lie one person with brains, vision and drive.

There are many smart people in the world. Some, but not all, are also creative. And some of these, but not all, are highly energetic and ambitious in their goals. At the extreme, we have superstars in science, engineering, business and the arts who are one-in-a-million in developing valuable innovations. These people produce new ideas that millions of other people can use. This is a huge point: the benefits of the creative geniuses are enjoyed by the rest of us.

Nobel laureate William Nordhaus looked at business innovators and concluded that they were able to capture only two percent of the total social benefits of their innovations. The other 98 percent of the benefit was spread across consumers and workers. The whole world benefits from the great innovators.

At first glance, more population seems good, because with a larger population we’ll have more one-in-a-million people. But some of our one-in-a-millions never achieve their potential.

Consider a smart, creative, persistent person born in China in 1950. She was most likely born in a poor, rural province (where a majority of China’s population lived at that time). She had limited educational opportunities. She had to survive the famine caused by the Great Leap Forward and the displacements of the Cultural Revolution. She probably could not fulfill her potential. And the same goes for people in many other less developed countries. Much of the world denied opportunities to women, and various minorities were discriminated against in different countries. Add in challenges faced by gays and others who didn’t match dominant stereotypes, and the world clearly missed many of the potential gains possible from one-in-a-million people.

The economic progress of poorer countries, combined with liberalization of social attitudes in many countries, enables more superstars to achieve their potential. That is now helping the world progress. In this way, economic progress starts a virtuous circle in which those with superstar potential have a better opportunity to succeed, leading to even more economic progress. With economic progress usually comes educational progress.

Education is part of the broadening of opportunity that helps the superstars achieve their potential. Education also has a very large impact on population growth: More educated women prefer to have fewer children. One of the Empty Planet authors was interviewed by Wired and said, “We polled 26 countries asking women how many kids they want, and no matter where you go the answer tends to be around two.” They cite formal education as a big factor, and also the informal education that comes from better communication through smartphones and Internet access.

With lower birth rates, we’ll produce fewer one-in-a-millions, but we’ll nurture them better in terms of nutrition, education and job opportunities. Opportunity will spread outward from males of the majority ethnicity to all (or at least most) of the world’s population.

The long-term growth of the world’s standard of living depends on the interplay of these two forces. The lower population growth that seems likely is a negative when viewed as a simple numbers game, but not so bad when nurture is taken into account. We’ll know definitively in 50 or 100 years.

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122 Comments on "Global Population Decline And Economic Growth"

  1. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 4:08 pm 

    California has ‘extraordinary’ budget surplus, analysts say

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-has-extraordinary-budget-13392995.php

    Eventually, our Red State financial losers will need to pull their own weight.
    Put down the beer and Cheetos, get in the F250 and go to work rather than the store.

  2. Antius on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 5:38 pm 

    “What about building small hydro electrical damn
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njNYuEKW-ek

    The wind option seems complicated and unrealibale”

    A pumped storage type scheme is looking more attractive. It is relatively easy to turn the wind turbine into a water pump that can store energy in an elevated reservoir. The power can be recovered in a pelton wheel in a very controllable way.

    A few problems with pumped storage are the need for a large elevated reservoir and inevitable energy losses. The reservoir may be large – to store 10kWh of mechanical power at 10m head height, the reservoir must have volume of 360 cubic metres.

    None the less, this begins to look like a preferable option due to the difficulty of matching variable energy supply to intermittent loads.

  3. I AM THE MOB on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 5:46 pm 

    ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ ASKS: IS IT STILL OK TO HAVE KIDS IN FACE OF CLIMATE CHANGE?

    https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-aoc-climate-change-have-kids-children-1342853?fbclid=IwAR1JtQbNp2tuP-A1egCEDJJf9d6Vale6ntYroQg9-iBIL3vNP3Ef5E8PVSk

  4. I AM THE MOB on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 5:52 pm 

    Duncan

    The more poorer those red state losers are the more crazy and mean they become..Which plays perfectly into the hands of the republiCON party..

    They don’t care though they think they think life starts when you die..

  5. Sissyfuss on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 7:09 pm 

    Green New Deal is quite the conundrum, necessary but impossible. The essential message is stop breeding and stop consuming. But you can’t lay it out like that. Like Obamacare, we need to agree to it before we can see the bottom line. Serious mitigation is needed but too onerous to contemplate. Maybe if we hit a wet bulb during spring training that wiped out half the teams. That would gather someones truncated attention for more than 30 seconds.

  6. makati1 on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 7:29 pm 

    Humans (and most other life forms) are on the slippery slope to extinction. The end is known. Only the time is still in question, but we seem to be speeding up the stampede to the cliff. If the US gets its war, the end may happen in the next decade or less.

    We are near, or have already, tripped some non-stopable events, like the thawing of permafrost, melting glaciers, Methane clathrate release, etc. There is no going back from this point. We are about a century too late. Best we can do is prep to ease the pain. Good Luck!

  7. FuelShortageComingYouAreDeadLoser on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 8:26 pm 

    Response to Antius.

    360 cubic meter is equal to 360 metric tonne. This is heavy weight and will required serious engineering to design the supporting structure.

    Maybe it is easier at this point to build steam boiler and power a electrical generator or a common drive shaft to power multiple accessories thought a leather belt like in old days

  8. Davy on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 5:49 am 

    “Massive Windstorm Spawns “Ice Tsunami” On Lake Erie”
    https://tinyurl.com/yyuwawae
    Authored by Mac Slavo via SHTFplan.com

    “An ice tsunami was spawned on Lake Erie by a massive windstorm which has resulted in the loss of power for thousands in the area. The ice storm took place Sunday across parts of New York and along Lake Erie, pushing large chunks of ice along lakeshore areas. Chunks of ice stacked up along the Niagara River Parkway along the lake forced the roadway to be closed in some sections after the ice tsunami hit. Ice mounds between 25 and 30 feet high could be seen in photos approaching people’s homes. Twitter users shared their accounts of what this ice tsunami looked like, and it is eerie.”

    “The ice tsunami along the Hoover Beach area of Hamburg, New York spurred a voluntary evacuation for residents there. “Residents in Hoover Beach can expect the Woodlawn FD to come door to door accounting for residents,” town officials said in a Facebook post. The weather system had also generated the strong winds that toppled trees and fallen branches which took out power lines across the region Sunday and into Monday as winds gusted to 60 mph or higher. “We’ve had storms in the past but nothing like this,” Hoover Beach resident Dave Schultz told WGRZ. “We’ve never had the ice pushed up against the walls and right up onto our patios… it’s in my patio, the neighbor’s patio, and the patio after that.”

  9. Davy on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 6:04 am 

    “How Artificially Brightened Clouds Could Stop Climate Change”
    https://tinyurl.com/yxsysmku
    BBC Future Now

    “Marine stratocumulus clouds are particularly important, covering around 20% of the Earth’s surface while reflecting 30% of total solar radiation. Stratocumulus clouds also cool the ocean surface directly below. Proposals to make these clouds whiter – or “marine cloud brightening” – are amongst the more serious projects now being considered by various bodies, including the US National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine’s new “solar geoengineering” committee.”

    “But his latest design, he believes, is ready to build: an unmanned hydro-foil ship, computer-controlled and wind-powered, which pumps an ultra-fine mist of sea salt toward the cloud layer. “Spraying about 10 cubic metres per second could undo all the [global warming] damage we’ve done to the world up until now,” Salter claims. And, he says, the annual cost would be less than the cost to host the annual UN Climate Conference – between $100-$200 million each year. Salter calculates that a fleet of 300 of his autonomous ships could reduce global temperatures by 1.5C. He also believes that smaller fleets could be deployed to counter-act regional extreme weather events.”

    “One of the strengths of marine cloud brightening is it can be very gradually scaled,” says Wanser. “You [can] get a pretty good grasp of whether and how you are brightening clouds, without doing things that impact climate or weather.”

    “This October, to challenge the US National Academies report, a Manifesto Against Geoengineering was signed by over 100 civil society and indigenous peoples groups, calling for a ban on all geoengineering experiments due to “risks that geoengineering poses to biodiversity, the environment and livelihoods”. Surprisingly, Burns has a lot of sympathy for that view: “It would be dangerous to deploy solar geoengineering and stop emissions reduction efforts – because if greenhouse gases were to continue to rise, you would need more and more solar geoengineering every year to offset that… basically pushing the Earth’s system even harder, in an experimental way that hasn’t been done before.”

  10. Davy on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 6:18 am 

    “Concrete is tipping us into climate catastrophe. It’s payback time”
    https://tinyurl.com/y39nz3er
    Faster than Expected

    “Nearly 6% of all UK greenhouse gas emissions, and up to 8% of the world’s, are now sourced from cement production. If it were a country, the cement industry would be the third largest in the world, its emissions behind only China and the US.”

  11. Davy on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 6:23 am 

    “A World Without Clouds”
    https://tinyurl.com/y39nz3er
    Faster than Expected

    “Now, new findings reported today in the journal Nature Geoscience make the case that the effects of cloud loss are dramatic enough to explain ancient warming episodes like the PETM — and to precipitate future disaster. Climate physicists at the California Institute of Technology performed a state-of-the-art simulation of stratocumulus clouds, the low-lying, blankety kind that have by far the largest cooling effect on the planet. The simulation revealed a tipping point: a level of warming at which stratocumulus clouds break up altogether. The disappearance occurs when the concentration of CO2 in the simulated atmosphere reaches 1,200 parts per million — a level that fossil fuel burning could push us past in about a century, under “business-as-usual” emissions scenarios. In the simulation, when the tipping point is breached, Earth’s temperature soars 8 degrees Celsius, in addition to the 4 degrees of warming or more caused by the CO2 directly.”

    “But vastly more important and more challenging than high clouds are the low, thick, turbulent ones — especially the stratocumulus variety. Bright-white sheets of stratocumulus cover a quarter of the ocean, reflecting 30 to 70 percent of the sunlight that would otherwise be absorbed by the dark waves below. As the CO2 level ratchets up in the simulated sky and the sea surface heats up, the dynamics of the cloud evolve. The researchers found that the tipping point occurs, and stratocumulus clouds suddenly disappear, because of two dominant factors that work against their formation. First, when higher CO2 levels make Earth’s surface and sky hotter, the extra heat drives stronger turbulence inside the clouds. The turbulence mixes moist air near the top of the cloud, pushing it up and out through an important boundary layer that caps stratocumulus clouds, while drawing dry air in from above. Secondly, as the greenhouse effect makes the upper atmosphere warmer and thus more humid, the cooling of the tops of stratocumulus clouds from above becomes less efficient. This cooling is essential, because it causes globs of cold, moist air at the top of the cloud to sink, making room for warm, moist air near Earth’s surface to rise into the cloud and become it. When cooling gets less effective, stratocumulus clouds grow thin.”

  12. BBC Future Now on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 7:23 am 

    Dearest dumbass Davy,

    Can I use BBC content?

    We receive a large number of requests from people and organisations that wish to use BBC content, including whole programmes, clips, photos and content from bbc.co.uk.

    When you need permission

    To use any of the following things…
    • Whole shows
    • Clips
    • Photos
    • Content
    • Our logo and other branding
    • Anything else that’s protected by copyright…you’ll need to get permission.

    Although sometimes we won’t be able to give you permission because we don’t always own the copyright.

  13. juanP noise on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 7:40 am 

    BBC Future Now on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 7:23 am

  14. peakyeast on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 7:40 am 

    We are nearing the “crazy eddie” moment (A mote in gods eye)

  15. peakyeast on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 7:59 am 

    That article makes the same faulty bordering on insane conclusions of human welbeing as the dead swedish statician.

    “Those technological improvements didn’t just happen, but were the result of people finding better ways to do things. The green revolution in agriculture is a good example, and owes much to one great scientist, Norman Borlaug. Behind many of the great innovations of the past century lie one person with brains, vision and drive.”

    They happened by over exploitation of natural resources, extinction of other species, insane worldwide polution, and at the cost of everybodys future.

    Dumb fucks don’t understand the price paid for having so many useless breeders because the real price is shifted into the future.

  16. DerHundistLos on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 4:09 pm 

    Great Barrier Reef Only Mammal Species Declared EXTINCT:

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/australia-rat-extinction-climate-change_n_5c6dca24e4b0e37a1ed47b1c

  17. makati1 on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 5:44 pm 

    Dumbing Down Amerika!

    “A new bill under consideration would adjust the current grading scale, making a score of 85 an A and a score of 70 a B….The old scale was a 10 point scale, meaning students would need to score a 90 for an A, 80 for a B, etc. If passed, the new grading scale would go into effect for the 2019-20 school year.”

    https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/education/nc-lawmakers-consider-bill-that-would-change-school-grades/

    41% is still passing! Wow! Slip slidin’ faster and faster. Go Trump!

  18. makati1 on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 9:20 pm 

    “Trump Folds on Trade War With China”

    “Trump has rapidly become the Appeaser-in-Chief. …It’s all about getting re-elected, not about changing the dynamic….Trump will run a $1.2 trillion deficit in 2019. …Tariffs are simply a tax on the domestic population. And anyone telling you otherwise is an idiot, a politician or both, like Trump.”

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2019/02/26/trump-folds-on-trade-war-with-china/#more-192441

    “And it is ultimately why anyone who argues that China is the one vulnerable in trade talks is a buffoon. When you are the one with the debt problem you are the one without leverage.

    China’s debt is private. The U.S.’s debt is public. Private debt can be written off. Public debt? Not if you want to remain the world’s ‘indispensable nation.’ (In other words, if you want to stay out of the 3rd world shit hole designation.)

    MOB, did you read that last paragraph? Do you still insist that China’s debt problem is bigger than that of the US? If you owe the IRS $1,000, it is a lot different than if you owe your mother the same $1,000. She can forget it. The IRS will not. LOL

  19. DMyers on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 9:43 pm 

    Mak, the 85 scale has been adopted by most districts for years. What we need to be concerned about is the “Alive and Breathing” standard that has gained a growing following. The only test needed in this grading concept is condensation left after blowing on a mirror.

    If you can put a spot of breath on that mirror, you haven’t died of boredom. Celebrate the survivors. They must have learning something, however incalculable it might be.

  20. makati1 on Tue, 26th Feb 2019 9:50 pm 

    DMyers, that is why the US is going down the shitter. Just look at the quality of our recent “leaders”. 325 million Americans and we get … Bush Jr, Obama, and now Trump. AO-C is in the wings for 2024. Scary!

    And Trump hopes to compete with the Russians and Chinese? LMAO

  21. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 1:05 am 

    “Concrete is tipping us into climate catastrophe. It’s payback time”
    https://tinyurl.com/y39nz3er
    Faster than Expected

    “Nearly 6% of all UK greenhouse gas emissions, and up to 8% of the world’s, are now sourced from cement production. If it were a country, the cement industry would be the third largest in the world, its emissions behind only China and the US.”

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/08/06/renewable-cement-production/

    ENCI in Maastricht, the Netherlands, has shown that it is possible to bring down emissions with 90%.

  22. Antius on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 4:02 am 

    Tommy Robinson just got bitch-slapped by the globalist Jewish elite that run Britain.

    http://tinyurl.com/y6j4dth9

    It really is time for Englishmen to organise a decent underground movement and make moves to take their country back.

  23. Davy on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 5:33 am 

    “Oops, Imports by China, Emerging Asia Plunge Most Since 2008”
    https://tinyurl.com/y3xooh9k

    “Imports by China and other emerging Asian economies in December plunged to the lowest level in two years, in the steepest one-month plunge since 2008, after having already plunged in November, according to the Merchandise World Trade Monitor, released on Monday by CPB Netherlands Bureau for Economic Policy Analysis, a division of the Ministry of Economic Affairs. For November and December combined, imports by China and other Emerging Asian Economies plunged 13%, the steepest two-month plunge since November and December 2008 (-18%). In point terms, it was the largest plunge in the data going back to 2000:”

    “Clearly, something is up in China, and it bubbles to the surface in unsettling bits and pieces on the demand side. The official data on the economy still look blindingly rosy, with the GDP-growth-by-fiat-numbers still at over 6%, copy-and-paste with slight variations to make it look natural. But the relentless accumulation of awful tidbits on the demand side are starting to paint a different picture.”

  24. Davy on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 5:45 am 

    “Wind Power Capacity Worldwide Reaches 600 GW, 53,9 GW added in 2018”
    https://tinyurl.com/y2srd5g6

    “The overall capacity of all wind turbines installed worldwide by the end of 2018 reached 600 Gigawatt,”

    “The year 2018 was mainly characterised by new dynamics: While the European wind farm markets were on a decline, with most European states showing weak development, including Germany, Spain, France and Italy.”

    “The by far largest wind power market, China, installed an additional capacity of 25,9 Gigawatt and has become the first country with an installed wind power capacity of more than 200 Gigawatt. It has re-taken the growth path after a no-so-strong year in 2017 when a comparatively modest 19 Gigawatt were installed. China continues its undisputed position as the world’s wind power leader, with an accumulated wind capacity of 221 Gigawatt. The second largest wind energy market, the USA, saw an increase in new capacity from 6,7 Gigawatt in 2017 to 7,6 Gigawatt in 2018, in spite of less ambitious national climate and energy targets. This positive development is certainly not only a result of the economics of wind power, but also of strong and comprehensive support on the state and municipal level. Soon, the US will be the second country after China reaching an installed capacity of more than 100 Gigawatt.”

  25. makati1 on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 7:41 am 

    Did you read the article Davy? Did you understand that imports to Asia are low because there is a tariff war underway? But, did you notice that there was not a significant export loss by Asia? And, the drop was across the Asian board, not just China.

    ““Emerging Asia” includes China, Hong Kong, India, South Korea, Indonesia, Malaysia, Taiwan, Thailand, the Philippines, Pakistan, and Singapore.”

    “US, Japan, the Euro Area, and “other” – imports in December were about flat year-over-year, while exports fell 1.2% year-over-year.”

    So, the US is still importing as much as always, and China is buying less American stuff. That makes the trade deficit even larger for the US. The opposite of what Trump said. Go Trump! LOL

    BTW: “China’s debt is private. The U.S.’s debt is public. Private debt can be written off. Public debt? Not if you want to remain the world’s ‘indispensible nation.’” https://www.theburningplatform.com/2019/02/26/trump-folds-on-trade-war-with-china/#more-192441

  26. Davy on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 8:28 am 

    Read the article again makato, it is talking the demand side of the equation. It is talkin Asian imports that tell a much better economic story. Your problem is agenda blindness and lack of economic education. Your binary search of good or bad numbers that support your home team always causes you to trip and fall. You just can’t believe your loving Asia is the center of the global slowdown. The tariff issues are not even that big of an issue yet. They could be if this largest round of negotiations fall apart.

  27. Schop alsjeblieft de anti-Amerikaanse hond aka fmr-paultard die ik van graniet heb on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 9:52 am 

    makato
    u said something ‘brilliant flashes’ n u r not a war pig
    i fail to see ur logic

  28. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 9:54 am 

    @Antius – for inspiration and historic examples of British resistance against the youknowwho:

    https://www.amazon.com/Churchills-Secret-Enemy-Jonathan-Pile-ebook/dp/B00859GZJI/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=churchill+enemy&qid=1551282037&s=gateway&sr=8-4

    Written by a leftist, but gives nevertheless a good picture of the 1939 environment in the runup to WW2 and the battle between Churchill and his jewish handlers, who wanted the war and British nationalists, who wanted to prevent that.

    Another interesting figure is Archibald Ramsey, prominent member of the Right Club. Here an excellent BBC doc (!) about him and Tyler Kent:

    https://youtu.be/ppVzp-Mtq0E

    The BBC basically admits that Churchill and Roosevelt were plotting for WW2.

    Ramsey and Kent were very close in sabotaging the jews and their WW2.

    Having said that, I think an overthrow of ZOG is more likely to happen in the US than in the UK.

  29. OAC_AKA_fmr-paultard on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 10:29 am 

    makato u said i’m sock of supertard
    i’m generally an admirer of supertard
    i’m anti anti-“sky daddy” and anti jihad lovin’

    i’m not a blind follower of supertard. moving water around to lead goats to better pasture is a genius invention that need to be recognized

  30. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 12:03 pm 

    “Schop alsjeblieft de anti-Amerikaanse hond aka fmr-paultard die ik van graniet heb on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 9:52 am ”

    This is a wild attempt at “Dutch”:

    –>

    “Please kick the anti-American dog aka frm-paultard that I have of granite”

    Wtf???

  31. Antius on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 12:20 pm 

    –” for inspiration and historic examples of British resistance against the youknowwho”

    Many Thanks. I will give these a read.

  32. Antius on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 1:22 pm 

    The great crisis of our time is close to bursting. Get ready for a rerun of 1929.

    https://tinyurl.com/y575c37q

  33. makati1 on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 5:19 pm 

    No Davy, it is not my problem but yours. You have an extreme case of Sinophobia due to your country’s successful brainwashing system. It is usually accompanied by its sister disease, Russophobia. The symptoms are a bad case of hypocrisy and denial.

    Two months of data, screwed up by Trump’s tariff tantrums, US government shutdowns and major holidays, is NOT indicative of anything except American hypocrisy and propaganda.

    All you want to see is bad news about China. Well, sorry, but China will be there and functioning long after the US goes down the shitter. Ditto for the Philippines. Both have cultures and histories many times longer than the Us experiment. Asia is NOT the West.

  34. makati1 on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 5:27 pm 

    Antius, yes the storm is on the horizon. They will try to print their way out, but it will fail.

    Gold is likely to be the new/old money when the dust settles. Or a gold backed currency. That is why Russia and China are mining and buying all they can get. Recently, most central banks are buying gold. Many countries are bringing their gold home where they control it, not the US or UK. I doubt that the Us has the gold it claims. Ditto for the UK. Ouch!

    As for the article, I always look for the spin. (Who signs the paycheck) This article is from a “financial advisor” so I take it with a grain of salt. They are selling something.

  35. Davy on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 5:59 pm 

    “No Davy, it is not my problem but yours. You have an extreme case of Sinophobia due to your country’s successful brainwashing system.”
    My reports are balanced and point to all sides in decline. You on the other hand have this delusional opinion the East is rising and west is falling. I laugh every day the news comes through and your hollow agenda is proved wrong. Day after day you are proven wrong. It is hilarious.

    “ It is usually accompanied by its sister disease, Russophobia. The symptoms are a bad case of hypocrisy and denial.”
    Liar, I admire the Russians and Putin. I challenge you to show a comment that is otherwise. Now I do correct your blaringly embellished or outright deceptive comments with balance and moderation when you talk your Sinophile and Russophile shit. In those cases I am spraying some Febreze over your stink.

    “All you want to see is bad news about China. Well, sorry, but China will be there and functioning long after the US goes down the shitter. Ditto for the Philippines. Both have cultures and histories many times longer than the Us experiment. Asia is NOT the West.”
    Bullshit makato, I see bad news everywhere you are the binary delusionist or should I say blind delusionist who only sees bad news in the US. You are one wacked out old man.

  36. Davy on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 6:01 pm 

    “Gold is likely to be the new/old money when the dust settles. Or a gold backed currency.”

    OH Boy makato is talking gold backed currencies again. LOL

    “I doubt that the Us has the gold it claims. Ditto for the UK. Ouch!”

    The US has more gold than China, Makato. That must hurt, huh.

  37. Davy on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 6:11 pm 

    “Enraged India Amassing Tanks, 14,000 Bunkers Along Pakistan Border”
    https://tinyurl.com/y2qwqfq2
    Zero Hedge

    “Meanwhile at a time Pakistani officials and media appear to be positively celebrating, and while the prime minister makes what India will surely take as disingenuous calls for deescalation, it appears preparations for war are underway. The Daily Mail reports: “India is preparing for war with the construction of 14,000 bunkers to protect families on the Pakistan border as Islamabad invokes the spectre of nuclear conflict, telling India ‘better sense’ is needed. The “better sense” remark came during Khan’s televised statement. He said: “If escalation begins from here, where will it go?” And referencing the worrisome fact that each side possesses some 150 nuclear warheads, Khan added: “Can we afford any miscalculation with the kind of weapons that we have and you have?” After which he concluded, “I once again invite India to come to the negotiating table,” so that “Better sense should prevail.”

  38. makati1 on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 6:25 pm 

    Davy, you can deny and pretend the world is the way you want it to be. It changes nothing.

    The world is turning away from the terrorist banana republic called America. All that comes out of the US are lies, hypocrisy and warmongering. You are getting to experience what, in history, is know as a failing empire. Enjoy!

  39. makati1 on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 6:39 pm 

    Today in Amerika:

    “In Washington, Regime Change Is Truly and Urgently Needed!”
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/in-washington-regime-change-is-truly-and-urgently-needed/5669831

    “Russia Regards the “Indo-Pacific Region” as an “Artificially Imposed” Pro-US Concept’
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-regards-indo-pacific-region-artificially-imposed-pro-us-concept/5669705

    “US-backed Opposition Activists Caught on Video Throwing Molotov Cocktails at Aid Truck on Venezuela Border”
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/opposition-throwing-molotov-cocktails-aid-truck-venezuela-border/5669884

    “The Doomsday Scenario for the Stock and Housing Bubbles” (US)
    http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/

    “Fed Tightening And Crumbling Fundamentals Expose The Recovery Lie”
    http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3667-fed-tightening-and-crumbling-fundamentals-expose-the-recovery-lie

    And on and on. Slip slidin’…

  40. makati1 on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 6:58 pm 

    Does ANYONE have an article ref that shows one POSITIVE thing about the US today that is not lies or propaganda? I have been looking for one for weeks and have not had any luck. What does that say about the US?

  41. Cloggie on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 8:08 pm 

    Red Ice reporting on the right-shift in Europe and notably Italy:

    https://youtu.be/wiQwmNxxdKM

    Are you ready for war? Because this globalist libtard empire is going down hard. Italy and France and Poland are currently the focal point of the white insurrection in Europe. Wait until Germany topples.

  42. Antius on Wed, 27th Feb 2019 8:42 pm 

    Jeff Bezos discusses his vision of human future in space.

    https://tinyurl.com/yycu9t6a

    Bezos envisages a future in which the majority of human beings live in space colonies away from the surface of any particular planet. Most people will likely continue to live in near Earth space for a long time to come. Space industries will ultimately replace most Earth based heavy industry, with Earth focusing on design and service activities.

    The richest men on the planet are now focusing their attentions skyward. My own vision is closer to Bezos’ than it is to hat of Musk. In the near term, I very much doubt that settling Mars will be practical. It is too far away and getting there is altogether too costly. The moon on the other hand is only a few days away and is likely to be the source of materials for any industrial expansion into space. It is no coincidence that both Chinese and Indian space ambitions focus on the moon, with an ambition for human settlement.

    Personally, I am sceptical that chemical rocket vehicles have the capacity to do the job. I suspect that some breakthrough in nuclear propulsion may be needed to allow the sort of heavy lift we need to get serious quantities of industrial infrastructure into space. The sort of space colonies that Bezos envisages will weigh millions of tonnes. Not things that can be built without a lot of heavy equipment.

  43. makati1 on Thu, 28th Feb 2019 2:40 am 

    “The Freedom Fairy”

    “For some time, it’s been apparent that the former “free world” countries (the US, EU, Canada, Australia, Japan, etc.) have been on a downward progression – socially, politically and economically. At this point, even those who don’t understand the decline intellectually, feel in their gut that this is not going to end well. …

    And so, for the more ‘advanced’ voter – the one who understands that the political, economic and social system are spiraling downward, the most natural tendency seems to be to irrationally hope that the Freedom Fairy will come along, wave the magic wand, and send the country back to a time when most everyone worked for a living, took responsibility for themselves, paid their own way and built a strong, productive society….

    And that’s the tragic truth. The former free, productive society has been whittled away. It no longer exists and it’s not coming back.

    https://internationalman.com/articles/the-freedom-fairy/

    “And what, then? Well, that’s an even tougher question to deal with. Because, at that point, he must accept that if, a) his country has reached its sell-by date and, b) it’s going to take him down with it, his only hope is to bow out of the system that he realizes is on the verge of swallowing him up. If he doesn’t wish to become collateral damage, his only choice is to pursue the freedom he cherishes in a location where it still exists.”

    Get out of Dodge now, like I did. The walls are going up and the gates are closing.

  44. Davy on Thu, 28th Feb 2019 4:59 am 

    “Get out of Dodge now, like I did. The walls are going up and the gates are closing.”

    I would rather be here makato than overpopulated self destructing Asia. I am here with family instead of alone like you.

  45. Antius on Thu, 28th Feb 2019 5:25 am 

    “I would rather be here makato than overpopulated self-destructing Asia. I am here with family instead of alone like you.”

    Davy, that is your choice of course. And no part of the world is without its problems; growing totalitarianism is a global phenomenon. So is shrinking disposable income resulting from falling EROI of fossil fuels. No country can completely escape these problems. But nothing I have seen in the past few years leads me to believe that the US will be a comfortable place for any white person to live a decade from now. As the pie shrinks and demographic change entrenches the power of your Zionist rulers, they are certain to attempt to subsidise pet socialist projects by taking wealth from the likes of you. Get ready for new restrictions on speech and gun control as well. I know this because I know that your rulers will attempt to remove any remaining threats to their authority. A new democrat controlled America will remove any illusion that you are anything other than an abused cash-cow, for projects that provide no benefit to you.

    I like you, love my country and would like things to be better. But I refuse to pretend that things are different from what they are. It is not patriotic doing so; quite the opposite. A true patriot would fight the tyranny that keeps his people under the yoke. He does not go along with it just to bask in the glory of dominating the world. All too many British colonials used to do that. And look where it got them.

  46. Davy on Thu, 28th Feb 2019 5:43 am 

    “Davy, that is your choice of course. And no part of the world is without its problems; growing totalitarianism is a global phenomenon. So is shrinking disposable income resulting from falling EROI of fossil fuels. No country can completely escape these problems. But nothing I have seen in the past few years leads me to believe that the US will be a comfortable place for any white person to live a decade from now.”
    Geeze, Antius, where did I say things were awesome here? They have always been hard where I live. You and your “white” shit. You project your European problems on me all the time. You have no idea what life is like here. You have never been to Missouri. We don’t have a color problem around here. In the big cities nothing much has changed in KC and STL. Same shit with blacks and whites. Same gang shit in a few city blocks that there was when I was young.

    “As the pie shrinks and demographic change entrenches the power of your Zionist rulers”
    Fuck your Jew baiting. Jews don’t run our lives around here and they don’t run the US. You and your ZOG goofballs can whine and howl all you like about the Jews in the US. They are here and have power along with multiple other power centers. They have particular power in some areas and not in other areas. Except for a small pocket of Jews in STL there are very few in Missouri.

    “they are certain to attempt to subsidise pet socialist projects by taking wealth from the likes of you. Get ready for new restrictions on speech and gun control as well. I know this because I know that your rulers will attempt to remove any remaining threats to their authority. A new democrat controlled America will remove any illusion that you are anything other than an abused cash-cow, for projects that provide no benefit to you.”
    The socialist will destroy the Democratic Party effort to take back Washington just wait and see. The idiotic Green New Deal shit and the uncovered corruption in the media and the justice department of the left is making people disgusted. The wild tax the rich to death and spend spend spend mentality of the rabid left will backfire. The left and socialist have pockets of power just like the Jews. They will not go away but they have zero chance of succeeding across the country.

    “I like you, love my country and would like things to be better. But I refuse to pretend that things are different from what they are. It is not patriotic doing so; quite the opposite. A true patriot would fight the tyranny that keeps his people under the yoke. He does not go along with it just to bask in the glory of dominating the world. All too many British colonials used to do that. And look where it got them.”
    I admire your scientific and engineering understanding. You have a pretty good economic grasp. When it comes to social and political issues you are lost in your bias and false assumptions. You are as bad as makato and the clogged in this regards. You guys are emotionally blinded and have no respect in my eyes for balanced and intellectual understanding on those issues.

  47. Davy on Thu, 28th Feb 2019 6:41 am 

    “When it comes to social and political issues you are lost in your bias and false assumptions.”

    “You guys are emotionally blinded and have no respect in my eyes for balanced and intellectual understanding on those issues.”

    Oops, sorry guys. I was projecting again.

  48. Anonymouse on Thu, 28th Feb 2019 7:31 am 

    The exceptionalturd says…

    “I am here with family instead of alone like you.”

    Translation: I am here with the goats that are still alive and have not yet managed to escape.

  49. Truth Buster on Thu, 28th Feb 2019 8:27 am 

    Classic Davy Republican Right-Wing BS:

    “The socialist will destroy the Democratic Party effort to take back Washington just wait and see.”

    Sure, we have history as a guide. Thanks to Democratic leadership, the country adopted two classic and wildly popular socialist programs in the form of Social Security and Medicare. True, your side has been attempting to undermine both programs for years. If the Republicons eliminate Social Security and/or Medicare it will be the final nail in the Republicon coffin “just wait and see”.

    “the uncovered corruption in the media and the justice department of the left is making people disgusted.”

    That’s what you have been claiming for years, yet the only corruption that surfaces is Republicon greed and corruption with the latest example being widespread Republicon voter fraud in North Carolina. Naturally, the Davy’s of the world have nothing to say about this, which is telling since he has spent the last number of years screaming about voter fraud.

    “spend spend spend mentality of the rabid left will backfire.”

    Surely, you meant to reference the record budget deficits being accumulated under the Trump administration. FY 2019 budget deficit will exceed $1 trillion and subsequent deficits will continue to increase substantially due to the Republicon tax cut for the very rich.

  50. Davy on Thu, 28th Feb 2019 8:55 am 

    “Anonymouse on Thu, 28th Feb 2019 7:31 am ”

    anon, when is he last time you had an intelligent comment? When was the last time you mustered an on topic comment that was intelligent? You are another one that needs to leave you are just background noise. LUNATIC baby millennial is all you are. You and MOB need to get a room and JO together.

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