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Global Population Decline And Economic Growth
Rising population was thought to be bad for our standard of living, with classic books such as Limits to Growth and Population Bomb projecting fewer resources per person and environmental collapse. A new book, Empty Planet, makes the forecast that world population will hit a peak and then decline. The authors take this as positive in general, with some challenges along the way. I want to focus on one downside of less population: fewer one-in-a-million people.
The old pessimists made very poor forecasts. Famine did not kill millions of people. The air in developed countries got cleaner, not dirtier. The world produced more food, not less. The prices of oil and other commodities did not soar persistently. The pessimists missed how technological improvement would enable the world to grow more food, use fewer finite resources per unit of production, and improve environmental quality all at the same time. Those technological improvements didn’t just happen, but were the result of people finding better ways to do things. The green revolution in agriculture is a good example, and owes much to one great scientist, Norman Borlaug. Behind many of the great innovations of the past century lie one person with brains, vision and drive.
There are many smart people in the world. Some, but not all, are also creative. And some of these, but not all, are highly energetic and ambitious in their goals. At the extreme, we have superstars in science, engineering, business and the arts who are one-in-a-million in developing valuable innovations. These people produce new ideas that millions of other people can use. This is a huge point: the benefits of the creative geniuses are enjoyed by the rest of us.
Nobel laureate William Nordhaus looked at business innovators and concluded that they were able to capture only two percent of the total social benefits of their innovations. The other 98 percent of the benefit was spread across consumers and workers. The whole world benefits from the great innovators.
At first glance, more population seems good, because with a larger population we’ll have more one-in-a-million people. But some of our one-in-a-millions never achieve their potential.
Consider a smart, creative, persistent person born in China in 1950. She was most likely born in a poor, rural province (where a majority of China’s population lived at that time). She had limited educational opportunities. She had to survive the famine caused by the Great Leap Forward and the displacements of the Cultural Revolution. She probably could not fulfill her potential. And the same goes for people in many other less developed countries. Much of the world denied opportunities to women, and various minorities were discriminated against in different countries. Add in challenges faced by gays and others who didn’t match dominant stereotypes, and the world clearly missed many of the potential gains possible from one-in-a-million people.
The economic progress of poorer countries, combined with liberalization of social attitudes in many countries, enables more superstars to achieve their potential. That is now helping the world progress. In this way, economic progress starts a virtuous circle in which those with superstar potential have a better opportunity to succeed, leading to even more economic progress. With economic progress usually comes educational progress.
Education is part of the broadening of opportunity that helps the superstars achieve their potential. Education also has a very large impact on population growth: More educated women prefer to have fewer children. One of the Empty Planet authors was interviewed by Wired and said, “We polled 26 countries asking women how many kids they want, and no matter where you go the answer tends to be around two.” They cite formal education as a big factor, and also the informal education that comes from better communication through smartphones and Internet access.
With lower birth rates, we’ll produce fewer one-in-a-millions, but we’ll nurture them better in terms of nutrition, education and job opportunities. Opportunity will spread outward from males of the majority ethnicity to all (or at least most) of the world’s population.
The long-term growth of the world’s standard of living depends on the interplay of these two forces. The lower population growth that seems likely is a negative when viewed as a simple numbers game, but not so bad when nurture is taken into account. We’ll know definitively in 50 or 100 years.
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122 Comments on "Global Population Decline And Economic Growth"
onlooker on Sun, 24th Feb 2019 2:39 pm
Am I the only one insulted by what a load of BS this article is?. So, it is combining the idiosy of Juluan Simon referring to humans as the ultimate resource because of our intelligence and trickle down economics becoming popular during Reagan’s presidency. Wealth for the already rich will trickle down to the masses. Hey moron, the state of the world clearly refutes these points
Davy on Sun, 24th Feb 2019 3:10 pm
Onlooker, when Insee Forbes I know it is not worth a read.
onlooker on Sun, 24th Feb 2019 3:51 pm
Yes Davy, what can one expect from a publication founded by Steve Forbes an Oligarch
makati1 on Sun, 24th Feb 2019 5:26 pm
Since when is wasting more resources a positive?
Answer: When your capitalist income is threatened.
Richard Guenette on Sun, 24th Feb 2019 7:08 pm
The billionaires should stop complaining about paying taxes. If the rich don’t pay taxes, then maybe lower and middle class Americans should stop paying taxes as well (Just a suggestion).
makati1 on Sun, 24th Feb 2019 8:34 pm
There is “growth” in the East in more ways than one.
“Physical gold has flown from West to East. …India has imported about 15,000 tonnes of gold since 2001. There are more than 25,000 tonnes of private gold held in India. There are at least 17,000 tonnes of gold held in China, not including the gold holdings of the Chinese central bank. Gold has flowed from the West into India and China, sometimes overtly, sometimes covertly….Some of the gold that the Western central banks still claim that they hold is in fact not there at all. It has been leased out in London, sold and shipped abroad, and now sits in China or India,…”
https://www.bullionstar.com/blogs/ronan-manly/australias-gold-at-the-bank-of-england-rt-com/
The US has no gold, just lies, like everything else it claims.
Uncle Joe your crazy relative on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 12:41 am
My bunkers are ready with my specially selected sex dwarves.
42 weeks of clam chowder and netflix means you guys are zombies and I will be the king of a new world!
Just another typical anti american faggot on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 12:44 am
Yeh those americuns are jus’ full of lies lies damned lies and statifics man!!!
Not like any of those other perfect cuntries where the rainbows end and the birds chirp sweetly all day!
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 4:59 am
“The US has no gold, just lies, like everything else it claims.”
The US has the largest gold reserve in the world and you can’t stand that can you makato. LOL
Cloggie on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 5:03 am
The DailyMail has discovered new Brexit developments:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6741953/May-meets-Merkel-Egypt-summit-amid-Brexit-scramble.html
Interesting, in a first intuition this 21 months delay could very well materialize in the current political environment.
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 5:16 am
Egypt was appearing to be in the beginnings of a failing state with its overpopulation without exports to support this growth. This may change that calculus. Some solar farms would improve that calculus even more.
“Egypt Is Shaping Up To Become A Real Energy Hub”
https://tinyurl.com/y5cbbly4
“After years of a major slump, partly due to continuing payment and security issues, the Pharaohs are again back in the top league. Continuing concerns about security in Egypt’s Western Desert or the Sinai no longer seem to be a breaking point for investors. At the second day of EGYPS2019 the announcement of five onshore and offshore licenses by EGPC, as presented by Egypt’s minister of energy Tarek El Molla, has created a very bright future for the North African oil and gas producer. The success story of the offshore deepwater gas field Zohr, operated by Italian oil major ENI, could be supported further by positive results from current exploration efforts in the offshore Noor field. If expectations are met, a new gas hub could be in the making, combining Cypriot and Israeli production with Egypt’s existing LNG infrastructure.”
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 5:32 am
“Morgan Stanley: China’s Current Account Deficit Will Be The Most Important Turning Point In 2019”
https://tinyurl.com/y6djcgo7
“China’s transformation from a surplus current account economy to deficit, we highlighted several observations, most notably that of UBS which wrote that the upcoming loss of China’s current account cushion, softening domestic activity, and upcoming tariffs mean that “for the first time in 25 years, China would have to make a choice between external stability and growth.” To be sure, China is still an export powerhouse – after all, it is China’s massive trade surplus with the US that is arguably the reason for the ongoing trade war between the US and China. However, it is China’s declining trade balance with the rest of the world that is of bigger concern in this context. As a reference, China’s trade surplus has shrunk by a third in just three years: in 2015, the country exported around $150 billion worth of goods more than it imported each quarter. In the third quarter of 2018, the goods trade surplus was just $100 billion. Going back to China’s core transformation, we also noted that a key driver behind China’s declining current account is that after having long been the world’s heavyweight saver and a huge buyer of foreign assets like Treasurys, the world’s most populous nation is now a big spender, and in early 2018, China got more of its growth from consumption than the U.S., the global king of consumer spending where some 70% of economic growth is due to consumer spending. And as China’s increasingly wealthy population spends more at home and abroad, its total trade surplus with the rest of the world has shriveled to a fraction of its former size. In other words, China is rapidly becoming the next US.”
“And since as we described previously, “China’s internal resources will no longer be sufficient to fund its desired growth”, Morgan Stanley is inclined to believe that whether Beijing wants to or not, this dramatic transformation will force a further gradual opening up of the economy, because in order to maintain its growth, in the future, “foreign investors will be chipping in more than ever before.”
“We think that the weight of CNY in global FX reserves will rise too, from 2.5% (excluding China’s reserves) to 5-10% over the next 5-10 years, bringing around US$40 billion a year of inflows. This view tends to generate plenty of debate. Many investors see little prospect of the renminbi taking a greater share of reserve assets without full currency convertibility and capital mobility. We agree that without deep reforms, CNY will struggle to raise its share significantly. However, this share is tiny relative to China’s economic importance, and a modest increase is not unrealistic.”
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 5:39 am
“Why A US-China Trade Deal Is Not Enough”
https://tinyurl.com/y68ssq8p
Authored by Minxin Pei, via Project Syndicate,
“If the US and China fail to reach a comprehensive trade agreement, bilateral trade will plummet, and the unraveling of the US-China economic relationship would accelerate. But even if an agreement is reached, that unraveling will continue, because, at its core, the trade war has always been about security.”
“True, the US has legitimate complaints about China’s trade practices, including its violations of intellectual-property rights, which, after more than a decade of failed diplomatic engagement, warrant a tougher stance. But if the US and China were not strategic adversaries, it is unlikely that the US would initiate a full-blown trade war that jeopardizes trade worth over a half-trillion dollars and billions in corporate profits. While China may lose more from such a conflict, American losses will hardly be trivial. The US is prepared to sacrifice its economic relationship with China, because the risks posed by the two powers’ conflicting national interests and ideologies now overwhelm the benefits of cooperation. At a time when China, which has been rapidly gaining on the US in terms of international influence, is pursuing an aggressive foreign policy, America’s emphasis on engagement is no longer tenable.”
“Likewise, for China, the trade war has exposed the strategic vulnerability created by overdependence on US markets and technologies. Chinese President Xi Jinping will not make the same mistake again, nor will any other Chinese leader. In the coming years, China, taking advantage of any lull in the trade war, will also work to reduce drastically its economic dependence on the US. But, however compelling the strategic rationale may be for China and the US, the economic decoupling of the world’s two largest economies – which together account for 40% of global GDP – would be disastrous. It will not only fracture the global trading system, but also eliminate any constraints on the Sino-American geopolitical rivalry, raising the risk of potentially devastating escalation.”
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 5:45 am
“Demographics, Debt, & Debasement: A Picture Of American Insolvency”
Authored by Chris Hamilton via Econimica blog,
https://tinyurl.com/y3creh7h
“Conclusion: The US Treasury is telling you that between the federal debt and unfunded liabilities, the US is $75 trillion in the hole and despite rising tax receipts, record stock and real estate valuations…the US is bankrupt. Of course, the US can never “technically” go bankrupt as it will issue new debt at an accelerating rate to pay the old debt…but this has been the “end times” for every empire. Debasement (or Modern Monetary Theory, as it is currently being rebranded) is the functional equivalent of national bankruptcy, the only means to pay the bills is creation of new debt at an accelerating rate. The US situation and reaction is not unlike most of the developed and developing nations of the world, as I detailed recentlyHERE. Still, ideally, a mature and sophisticated nation would stop and reconsider its priorities about now, determine how to go about a functional bankruptcy, share the pain, and start over. Unfortunately, we appear more interested in scapegoating, trade wars, walls, and countering with calls for socialism. This may not go well.”
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 5:48 am
“Hurricane Irma survivor’s unusual new home”
https://tinyurl.com/y5kg7q2l
“Rob DePiazza’s Florida home was destroyed by Hurricane Irma. Rather than relocating, he decided to reconstruct his house… out of steel shipping containers.”
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 5:55 am
“Global Trade Pain Stings Export Economies From Japan to Germany”
https://tinyurl.com/yy5wxzqf
“From Japan to Germany, from economic numbers to profit warnings, there’s no shortage of evidence that the world is feeling the pain of a slump in trade. In Asia, South Korea and Japan reported declines in exports, while European powerhouse Germany is seeing manufacturing shrink the most in six years. Shipping giant Maersk said Thursday that profit will fall short of expectations, and Chief Executive Soren Skou said the outlook for this year is bleaker.”
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 5:58 am
“New Economic or Financial Crisis” in the Eurozone Could Start in Italy: French Government Frets”
https://tinyurl.com/y2j5ojxs
“Don’t underestimate the impact of the Italian recession.” This was the stark warning from French Economy Minister Bruno Le Marie in an interview with Bloomberg News. “We talk a lot about Brexit, but we don’t talk much about an Italian recession that will have a significant impact on growth in Europe and can impact France because it’s one of our most important trading partners.” Italy’s economy as measured in real GDP shrank for two quarters in a row, which puts it into a “technical recession”:
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 6:11 am
This fits the tribal forum here. LOL
“What’s Been Lost: The Value of Being Reasonable”
https://tinyurl.com/y3bl4u8k
“Just about the only thing the virulent proponents of various extremes can agree on is that anyone attempting to be reasonable is a mortal threat that must be neutralized or destroyed.”
“The value of being reasonable has been lost, and I think there are three sources of this erosion: Though few will admit it publicly, the awareness that the economic pie is slowly but surely shrinking is seeping into the collective unconscious / subconscious.”
“Being reasonable is a direct challenge to the extreme positions that have become the defining litmus-test virtue-signaling within each tribe.”
“As my friend GFB has explained, the corrosive incivility of the online digital world has been normalized to such a degree that it has infiltrated the real world”
“being reasonable in an increasingly unreasonable era. In terms of signaling one’s loyalty and fervor, extremism pays dividends within the tribe while being reasonable will get you shunned or ejected from the tribe.”
“Reasonable people have no tribe, as being reasonable is intrinsically averse to the simple certainties that define tribes.”
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 6:31 am
“China’s Supergrid Faces One Major Problem”
https://tinyurl.com/y2ojmxjb
“China’s renewable power generation capacity—including hydro—reached over 38 percent of total newly installed capacity at the end of last year. The country is clearly the world leader in wind and solar power additions as it seeks to move away from coal as quickly as possible. But it has yet to solve its problem with what the industry calls curtailment, or the waste of renewable power due to grid limitations. China is solving this problem with supergrids. China has 22 ultrahigh-voltage power transmission projects in operation: an emerging supergrid that could, among other things, reduce the waste of renewable energy by linking the regions that produce it to the regions with the highest rates of electricity consumption,”
“The ultrahigh-voltage grid is unique in that it combines DC with AC lines, with the DC lines transporting the electricity over great distances at reduced rates of waste and the AC parts of the grid distributing the electricity to regional grids and individual consumers. The grid is unique, Fairley says, but it’s not without its problems. For one thing, there is worry among some engineers that the nature of the supergrid increases the risk of cascade blackouts. For example, Fairley explains, if the DC line of the 8-GW ultrahigh-voltage line that carries electricity produced by the wind and solar farms in northwestern China’s Gansu region to the east failed, the blackout would spread across the regional AC grids causing a lot more problems than if the country’s grid continued to be fragmentary.”
DerHundistLos on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 7:53 am
“The US is $75 trillion in the hole and despite rising tax receipts, record stock and real estate valuations…the US is bankrupt.”
Huh? Federal tax receipts have fallen substantially since Trump assumed office (FY 2017) and the OMB predicts ever lower revenues for the federal government, which explains why the federal budget deficits will exceed $1 trillion for FY 2019.
Antius on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 8:31 am
An update on the design of the wind powered workshop. To recap: in 18 months’ time I will be moving house to another location in northern England. I intend to build a metal and wood workshop that is powered directly by the wind. A vertical axis wind turbine will power machinery within the workshop via a rotating shaft that passes through the workshop. Individual machines will draw mechanical power from the shaft through disc clutches, which will transmit power to the machines through belts or rotating steel shafts.
Some specifics. Individual machines have different mechanical power requirements. Some of the machines that I intend to include within the workshop:
Bandsaw = 250W
Pillar drill = 350W
Wood turning lathe = 350W
Milling machine = 600W
Table saw = 1500-1800W
Bench grinder = 150W
Air compressor = 700W (1HP)
Chest freezer = 500-600W
Washing machine = 1200W (spin cycle)
Grain mill = 100W (dependant on size)
Rock dust mill (for producing fertiliser) = dependant on size
Water pump = dependant on head and volumetric flowrate.
Some issues with powering machinery directly from the wind: (1) Wind is highly variable. Sometimes there is insufficient power to operate some machines, sometimes there is an overabundance of power; (2) Machines operate at specific speeds, but the speed of the wind turbine is proportional to wind speed.
There are a number of ways of dealing with the first problem.
(a) One option would be storage of wind energy by pumping water into a higher reservoir and recovering power by allowing it to fall through a waterwheel. One of the strengths of this approach is that it would allow an occasionally used workshop to draw power from a much smaller wind machine. A workshop used for a few hours per day could draw power from a wind machine providing only one tenth of its average power. However, this requires an elevated topography and implies both building work to build the reservoir and additional complication to the design. It also implies substantial energy losses – maybe about a third of the harvested wind power.
(b) The second option is to store mechanical energy within a flywheel attached to the shaft. This would only allow energy to be stored for a period of hours, and it implies capital costs and energy losses due to friction.
(c) A third option is to size the wind turbine such that discretionary loads from operating machines are generally covered a high proportion of the time. Excess energy when the wind is blowing strong or machines are not in use will be absorbed by slew loads, such as a chest freezer, mills, washing machine and maybe a heat pump. These will connect and disconnect from the shaft via a set of governors that engage when shaft speed increases beyond a set point.
My chosen option is a combination of (b) and (c).
The second problem stems from the efficiency profile of a vertical axis wind turbine. The machine is at its most efficient when the tip speed matches or is slightly lower than the wind speed. However, the machines within the workshop generally require specific rotational speeds. For the lathe for example, some operations require very specific speeds and over speed could be damaging. However, applying slew loads and braking the turbine tip speed beneath the wind speed, would have a negative impact on the efficiency of the system. The solutions to this problem are to either (a) Take the hit and accept lower efficiency; (b) Install a gear box between the turbine and the workshop. The problem with the second option is that an automatic gear box would build a lot of complexity (and cost) into a system whose strength lays in its simplicity. My preference is a compromise solution: a manual gearbox with at most 3 gears and acceptance that at higher wind speeds, the system efficiency may suffer.
I have carried out some research into the wind conditions where I live. The wind rose for my area tells me how many hours each year I can expect wind speeds in excess of specific set points at a height of 10m. Results: for a 16 square metre vertical axis wind machine, with a flat efficiency profile of 25%:
Power will exceed 180 watts some 60% of the time;
Power will exceed 650 watts 37% of the time;
Power will exceed 1850 watts 20% of the time;
Power will exceed 4500 watts 8.8% of the time.
To ensure that most machines are supplied at least 60% of the time (~600 watts); I therefore need a wind turbine with a swept area of at least 53 square metres. Definitely something that I need planning permission for. During periods of high wind, the VAWT will natural shed load via friction with the air. In addition, the slew loads will engage automatically as shaft speed increases. These need to be arranged such that each engages progressively as shaft speed increases. The chest freezer would be first; the various mills would engage in series if shaft speed remains high. As a last resort, I could attach a water brake to the system that would absorb excess energy as friction within the water. This would dump waste heat into the workshop.
Sissyfuss on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 9:05 am
Forbes the hammer sees every problem as a nail. They equate population as an economic function that doesn’t need reduction for fear of lowered profits. They are waiting for the invisible hand to bitch-slap the multitudes back into their 1950s mindset of reachieved greatness, Limits to Growth be damned.
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 9:27 am
“Just about the only thing the virulent proponents of various extremes can agree on is that anyone attempting to be reasonable is a mortal threat that must be neutralized or destroyed.”
I prefer to use the words moderated and neutered.
JuanP identity theft on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 9:47 am
Not Davy
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 9:27 am
Antius on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 9:58 am
JuanP get a life or just fuck off. You are adding nothing worth reading to this board.
Davy, stop responding to him. You keep feeding the troll.
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 10:25 am
I was planning on announcing I am going to ignore JuanP for a few days just to give the forum a rest. Let’s say until Thursday. We will see how it goes. I am still going to indicate identity theft but no other responses. It is ashame we have to deal with children here.
JuanP on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 10:58 am
Anti-US
Fuck off with your biased commentary. You are about as objective as my nut sack. After all, Davy is a fellow right-wing Trumptard. That says it all.
Nice sneaky try appearing above it all, while implying it’s all one sided. You’re an obvious biased fraud.
JuanP on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 11:01 am
Anti-US
I forgot to mention get a life or just fuck off. You are adding nothing worth reading to this board, although your wingnut right-wing rantings are at times, in small doses, mildly entertaining.
JuanP on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 11:03 am
Anti-US
Be specific and tell us what postings you attribute to me.
DerHundistLos on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 11:16 am
‘Terrifying’: There’s a rapid loss of biodiversity that’s placing global food supplies at risk of ‘irreversible collapse’
https://www.alternet.org/2019/02/terrifying-theres-a-rapid-loss-of-biodiversity-thats-placing-global-food-supplies-at-risk-of-irreversible-collapse/
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 11:46 am
Hi Juan,
I noticed it’s been quite a while since you last posted anything here at PO dot com. How’s the community outreach going? Anything new on the permaculture scene you’d like to share with us all?
Take care and all the best old friend.
Cloggie on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 12:00 pm
The three posts above are by the mobster, not JuanP. Juan would never call someone a “Trumptard”, as he voted or at least sympathized with Trump because the alternative was much worse.
Antius on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 12:39 pm
My apologies to the wrongly accused. This board is too often shitted up with junk comments posted by people attacking other people they have never met. They don’t seem to realise that no one cares who is right or wrong.
JuanP identity theft on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 12:46 pm
Not Davy
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 11:46 am
JuanP identity theft on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 12:47 pm
Not Antius
Antius on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 12:39 pm
Davy on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 12:49 pm
“Cloggie on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 12:00 pm
The three posts above are by the mobster, not JuanP. Juan would never call someone a “Trumptard”, as he voted or at least sympathized with Trump because the alternative was much worse.”
cloggie, just stay out of it you enable the bad behavior.
Antius on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 1:21 pm
The delusional one has spoken Cloggie. You should be very afraid.
LOL!
Sissyfuss on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 1:25 pm
Here’s a premise more ominous than a Lovecraftian tale; the govt is convinced runaway warming is taking place and they suggest a nuclear winter to stall it. Thinking that they’re impervious to extinction why not remove several billion useless eaters. Possible?
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 1:28 pm
Trump kissed campaign worker without her consent, lawsuit claims
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-lawsuit-kiss-woman-consent-campaign-election-florida-court-election-a8796046.html
Who are you going to trust?
The fake blond with big tits..
Or
The Campaign worker
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 1:30 pm
After Putin’s warning, Russian TV lists nuclear targets in US
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/russian-state-tv-here-are-the-us-targets-that-putins-hypersonic-nukes-will-be-able-to-reach-in-less-than-5-minutes-2019-02-25?link=sfmw_fb&fbclid=IwAR0q-nR0VP8waahymoXpfwh59K56gWzmD4fi2wl9Z_-S1smRzBdd2YQ9p-w
Oh Puty..
Don’t make us George Bush this button, over nothing..
LOL
kervennic on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 1:38 pm
It takes billions of people to get one Donald Trump. This is perfectly true.
If you reduce the number you might get people like Lincoln or some nerds like Benjamin Franklin. F..ing Boring !
FuelSortageCommingYouAreDeadLoser on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 1:41 pm
Just one suggestion to Antius.
What about building small hydro electrical damn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njNYuEKW-ek
The wind option seems complicated and unrealibale
Antius on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 1:42 pm
Mob suddenly appears just minutes after I get ‘sock puppeted’. Looks like Cloggie was correct. Mob has obviously finished masturbating over Taylor Swift and having exhausted his prostate over the pin up poster in his mum’s basement, he turns his seedy eye to the Peak Oil website and wanks all over that too. Just remember Mob, spoiled little rich girls usually carry guns and aren’t interested in fat kikes that still live with mummy and cannot hold down a job.
The Truth Shall Set DavySKUM Free on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 2:01 pm
Davy, you seem to have all the answers when in fact you don’t know jack shit. You speak with certainty when you are instead speculating based on preconceived notions.
I am DavySkum, here me roar.
The Truth Shall Set You Free on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 2:03 pm
Apologies: Above message directed at Cloggentard.
Davy right on this one. Keep your kike nose out if it, dumbass.
Cloggenkike on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 2:04 pm
Apologies: Above message directed at Cloggentard.
Davy right on this one. Keep your kike nose out if it, dumbass, Cloggenkike.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 2:10 pm
“Marxism taught me what society was. I was like a blindfolded man in a forest, who doesn’t even know where north or south is. If you don’t eventually come to truly understand the history of the class struggle, or at least have a clear idea that society is divided between the rich and the poor, and that some people subjugate and exploit other people, you’re lost in a forest, not knowing anything.”
—Fidel Castro
FuelShortageIsComingYouAreDeadLoser on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 2:13 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmHY9DkD1Hw
Personally I think we should used car alternator and battery as much as we can after the collapse.
What about car alternator in series to generate 120 v.
Sissyfuss on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 2:13 pm
Mob, stop triggering the vets.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 25th Feb 2019 3:51 pm
Trump a ‘Delusional Madman’ Who Will Destroy US Economy: David Stockman
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-delusional-madman-destroy-us-230112147.html