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Are We In Peak Oil Demand?

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Estimates are widely varied, so how can we even begin to answer this important question?

No one seems to agree just exactly when POD (peak oil demand) will occur. Let’s look at some of the projections by major institutions in this regard. This is just a sampling to indicate the wide discrepancy in views.

OPEC says demand for oil will continue to rise into the early 2040’s, then peak and fall off towards the end of that decade. Most oil companies agree with those projections, while BP (British Petroleum) is probably the least bullish of the big oils seeing the mid-2030’s as the point of POD, with consumption hitting over 125 million bpd. Currently, we are around 100 MM bpd consumption. Of that consumption, 55% is burned in transportation, 30% of that is used in personal ground transportation, and 25% is in all other forms of transport: aircraft, ships, trains.

The IEA (International Energy Agency) predicts POD in the mid-2030’s, but that’s just one of its scenarios. It supplies a number of different views depending on conditions, such as the speed with which EVs are adopted, the impact of PHEVs, and ride-sharing services. However, even in its most aggressive scenario, peak ICE does not hit until the mid-2020s, while many others forecast peak ICE will have already occurred. The IEA also predicts that only 30 million EVs will be on the road in 2040.

GS (Goldman Sachs) sees POD in 2024. Its forecast is for demand to grow at 1.2 MMbpd for 2019 and 2020, respectively, 50,000 barrels per day lower than the earlier forecast.  This is the general consensus of most analysts, that POD will occur mid-decade.

The most aggressive view I could find regarding the onset of POD was from ARK Invest. Its view is that we are already in POD or very close to it. ARK believes that demand for oil will slow and stall at around 100 MMbpd, then plateau and begin to fall in just a few years. Moreover, ARK asserts that, in 2022, oil production will decline and never recover, with close to 30 million EVs on the road in 2024, 15 years sooner than big oil predicts.

If ARK’s view is correct, then we should already be seeing signs of falling production and/or lower prices for products produced from oil.

I think, contrary to what big oil and the preponderance of analysts say, ARK Invest is correct. We are seeing OPEC cutting production in an attempt to shore up the price of oil. The world is currently, and has been for some time, awash in the stuff. Prices have remained stubbornly low and while OPEC has said the world economy can take $100 a barrel oil, they can’t seem to get the price up to even $70 a barrel.

Big Oil wants to placate investors who have been fleeing the oil patch in record numbers. Investments in exploration companies have fallen off the table, and various projects for recovering expensive oil have been tabled or abandoned entirely, as the low price of oil makes these investments entirely speculative and likely to lose money.

The above are all signs we are in the period of POD already and things will likely only get worse, at least for the oil companies and their investors, who are none too happy with the market going up leaps and bounds while the oil sector does next to nothing.

OPEC already has plans to discuss lowering oil production again at its next meeting. Why, in the world of increasing demand that it describes, would this be necessary? Finally, saying that other uses for oil — such as increased aviation fuel and petrochemical demand — will replace the fall in demand for gasoline and diesel due to the proliferation of EVs and PHEVs is an argument based on wishful thinking more than it is akin to reality.

One might think that this decline in demand for oil was precipitated by the trade war between the U.S. and China, and while that has certainly been a factor in reducing demand, it’s just another paragraph in the story that is the disruption and decline in oil demand and use that we are currently just beginning to experience.

I think, in 2040, demand for oil will be down to around 60 MMbpd, almost half of what it is today.

What do you think?

insideev


174 Comments on "Are We In Peak Oil Demand?"

  1. Davy approves this message on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:07 am 

    Naturally, the DavySkum is a Trump ally. Liars and hypocrites of a feather always flock together-lol/

    Please announce to the world your unflagging support for Trump. You are helping the resistance in ways you can’t imagine wonders. I know that you have galvanized me to do everything in my power to make damn sure your orange fat man goes down in ignominious defeat in 11 months.

    Remember folks, a vote for Trump is a vote for Davy!!!!

  2. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:09 am 

    “JuanP on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 6:58 am “They hang out all day long sipping cocktails and eating caviar. Surrounded by hot young women scantily clad in bikinis.”
    Well not sure where juanPee got this but pretty well sums up what matter in his life. Boring ugly south Florida with its decadence and ugly enhanced women that look grotesque with the fake boobs. JuanP lives this life because he is a do nothing South American maggot.

    “At least the DavySkum got this part correct. Better than suffer in Missiry surrounded by a bunch of toothless deplorables, although I can appreciate why Davy feels so comfy with his peeps.”
    Missouri has a better life than South Florida and its endless ugly strip mall sprall. Who would want to live in such an urban nightmare with no future? In collapse it is the worst place in the world to be and juanPee is in the middle of it. In any case the ocean will swallow it up soon if collapse does not get it. Missouri has some bad parts but lots of good parts too. One thing is great about Missouri and that is it is not overpopulated like south Florida. juanPee’s South America is a complete failure and this is why he does not return.

    “Trumpies of a feather always flock together.”
    You are the one cheerleading Trump not me:
    “JuanP on Mon, 16th Dec 2019 9:54 am I love coming here once or twice a month, and glancing over the comments. It is so clear to me that the USA and its people are insane. Trump 2020! Tulsi 2020! Long live Putin! Long live China! Long live Cuba! Long live Venezuela! Long live Syria! Long live North Korea! Long live freedom and justice!”

    “Pathetic.”
    Yea, you are a pathetic piece of shit juanPee.

  3. REAL Green on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:14 am 

    Member what the docters told us Davy? It’s not mentelly healthy for us to keep talking about ourselfs in the third person.

    And your sad attempts at ID theft are all too obvious.

    Don’t you have some ranch chores that require attention? Oops, I forgot it’s all make believe.

  4. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:15 am 

    “Davy approves this message on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:07 am”
    This is stupid obviously

    “Naturally, the DavySkum is a Trump ally. Liars and hypocrites of a feather always flock together-lol/”
    Naturally you are a liar. I will vote Tulsi if allowed but in no circumstance will I vote the dimocrates insane offerings.

    “Please announce to the world your unflagging support for Trump. You are helping the resistance in ways you can’t imagine wonders. I know that you have galvanized me to do everything in my power to make damn sure your orange fat man goes down in ignominious defeat in 11 months.”
    The resistance is dead juanPee. You are a liar because first you are a South American maggot and this is not your country so you won’t vote. Since you hate this country you want whatever is worse for it hence you act like a dimocrate but cheerlead Trump. You want bad things to happen either way

    “Remember folks, a vote for Trump is a vote for Davy!!!!”
    God, is that not stupid and typical juanPee mindless shit. Of all the people on this form you have to be the biggest loser of them all juanPee. You can’t even carry a good comment.

  5. JuanP on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:16 am 

    Your ID theft, dumbass:

    “You are the one cheerleading Trump not me.”

  6. JuanP on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:17 am 

    My wife just found me some fresh young play things.The red head is especially smoking hot! I’m going below for a bit. Sure glad I don’t have to wear a condom!

    I’ll be back soon.

  7. JuanP is stupid on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:18 am 

    Stupid is nothing but a dirty troll with his constant ID theft. We all know it is you stupid quit being a coward and face me like a man. OH, I forgot your balls got chopped off with your vasectomy. LMFAO

    This is stupid:
    REAL Green said Member what the docters told us Davy? It’s not men…

  8. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:21 am 

    “JuanP on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:17 am My wife just found me some fresh young play things.The red head is especially smoking hot! I’m going below for a bit. Sure glad I don’t have to wear a condom!” I’ll be back soon.”

    No shit you will be back soon because your dick will be limp. Your wife is an ugly whore nobody would touch with a 10-foot pole. Typical South American maggot talk. You deserve to go down in a painful end when collapse hits. JuanPee is a worthless South American piece of shit. He will be deported before long because he will say or do the wrong thing. I hope you lose your ill-gotten property too, skumbag.

  9. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:25 am 

    “I will vote Tulsi if allowed but in no circumstance will I vote the dimocrates insane offerings.”

    Oops, sorry y’all. I keep forgetting. Tulsi is a dimocrate. Confused? Me to.

    https://tinyurl.com/v3oqgwz

  10. Davy@liar/hypocrite/fraud.com on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:25 am 

    DavySkum, you are such the disingenuous POS. You don’t even have the balls to announce your hypocritical support for the orange fat man.

    You are a REAL Green lying conservatard hypocrite supporting the most environmentally destructive president in history, yet you have the audacity to claim that YOU and only you are the true environmentalist and everyone else is a “fake”.

    You are one sick fuck and a disgusting human being who adds nothing to the betterment of the planet. You take and give nothing back in return.

    If there is a hell, that’s where you are headed and rightfully so.

  11. JuanP is stupid on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:30 am 

    Like I said we knew it would be quick limp dick

    This is from stupi:
    Davy@liar/hypocrite/fraud.com said DavySkum, you are such the disingenuous POS. You d…
    Davy said “I will vote Tulsi if allowed but in no circumstan…

  12. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:31 am 

    Uh oh, I thought it was only gas, but instead I did some hershey squirts in my undies. Mommy, clean out my tokus and help me put on some new undies.

  13. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:32 am 

    “I will vote Tulsi if allowed but in no circumstance will I vote the dimocrates insane offerings.” “Oops, sorry y’all. I keep forgetting. Tulsi is a dimocrate. Confused? Me to.”

    Yea, juanPee it confuses you because lots of things do. Tulsi is a Democrat. The rest are dimocrates. You are a South American maggot

  14. juanPee projecting on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:33 am 

    “DavySkum, you are such the disingenuous POS. You don’t even have the balls to announce your hypocritical support for the orange fat man. You are a REAL Green lying conservatard hypocrite supporting the most environmentally destructive president in history, yet you have the audacity to claim that YOU and only you are the true environmentalist and everyone else is a “fake”. You are one sick fuck and a disgusting human being who adds nothing to the betterment of the planet. You take and give nothing back in return. If there is a hell, that’s where you are headed and rightfully so.”

  15. JuanP is stupid on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:35 am 

    Stupid is being prverted and mindless

    this is stupid:
    “Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:31 am Uh oh, I thought it was only gas, but instead I did some hershey squirts in my undies. Mommy, clean out my tokus and help me put on some new undies.”

  16. JuanP on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:40 am 

    I’m back!

    What a wonderful way to warm up in the morning.

    Now for some breakfast and then, Cocktail Hour!

    It’s always twelve o clock somewhere!

  17. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:45 am 

    Members please lobby the owners and get JuanP banned. If he would ignore me, I will ignore him this would stop this trash immediately. The problem is JuanP likes this behavior because he is an egotistical psychopath. He wants to feel important and in charge plus he is mentally ill. One need only search comment history to see this in his own words. BTW, he can’t argue ID theft because back then he did not do it. I suspect back then he was doing socks but not ID theft. Since JuanP is not going to ignore me but instead stalk and troll me with ID theft and hostile socks then we need plan B. Plan B is this:

    peakoil.com is hosted by Cloudflare:

    Cloudflare is one of the last bastions of free speech. It is very sad that the admin of this site doesn’t seem to want to take the trouble to log in to his server dashboard and active a few presets, enforcing posters to post under a unique username/password combination. That doesn’t eliminate garbage under fake identities, but at least it stops identity theft and that would make a hell of a difference. If possible, you could also enforce that one IP-address can only post under a single identity. Please admin, invest an hour of your time to get this right.”

    Please members lobby the owners to get these changes made that will go a long way to reduce the damage JuanP does here.

  18. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:47 am 

    “I’m back! What a wonderful way to warm up in the morning. Now for some breakfast and then, Cocktail Hour! It’s always twelve o clock somewhere!”

    LOL, what a maggot life. OH, BTW, juanPee, you never went anywhere and there were no girls for you. You are a liar. You are a limp dick anyway. I do believe you are drinking and drugging heavily and stuck in a trap of obsession you can’t get out of. Get help moron and leave us alone here to make intelligent comments.

  19. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:55 am 

    Members please remember I love playing the victim card cause I’m as innocent as the virgin driven snow.

    Always someone else who is to blame.

    Moi? Never.

    Let me show you what I mean:

    Please read my quote at the bottom for a random example of my civil commentary. Please note my polite, moderate, and balanced approach.

    ~~Even if a comment is not directed at me, I attack using a familiar litany of playground taunts, insults, and all forms personally demeaning speech.

    ~~I accuse posters of being a “foreigner”, and I tell them to get out of my country.

    ~~I address people with condescending names.

    ~~I make statements without evidence.

    ~~I always work “hate” into my comments.

    ~~O always moderate and neuter stupid Democrats and lying liberals.

    “STFU annoymouse. You do not have the right to attempt a normal comment. You are are emotional kid with a stalking and trolling problem. Your comments are as stupid as your buddy stupid. Dumbass Canadian waste case.”

  20. Plan B on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 8:00 am 

    “We need a plan B.”

    Who is we, Davy? You have zero input. You’re a nobody. Thought that’s why you started your own blog. What happened to that fantasy? Best way to prevent your widdle trollself to avoid getting poo thrown right back in your face is own and control your own widdle blog. Then you can be king of nothing-lol.

  21. JuanP on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 8:03 am 

    The wife and I are going out for a quick jet ski before it gets too hot. They’re calling for possible thunder showers this afternoon and a balmy 84 degrees. Sure glad the yacht has AC!

    I love my life!

  22. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 8:03 am 

    If he would ignore me, I will ignore him this would stop this trash immediately.

    Oops, then look what happened…..

    Despite the following comment not being directed at me, I couldn’t resist my widdleself:

    “I’m back! What a wonderful way to warm up in the morning. Now for some breakfast and then, Cocktail Hour! It’s always twelve o clock somewhere!”

    LOL, what a maggot life. OH, BTW, juanPee, you never went anywhere and there were no girls for you. You are a liar. You are a limp dick anyway. I do believe you are drinking and drugging heavily and stuck in a trap of obsession you can’t get out of. Get help moron and leave us alone here to make intelligent comments.

  23. Davy to JuanP on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 8:21 am 

    “Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 7:55 am Members please remember I love playing the victim card cause I’m as innocent as the virgin driven snow. Always someone else who is to blame. Moi? Never.”
    JuanPee, please, this is about you ruining a place for you won selfish reason. Look in the mirror. If I fight you it is because I have a right to self defense and a right to free speech without bullying.

    Let me show you what I mean: “Please read my quote at the bottom for a random example of my civil commentary. Please note my polite, moderate, and balanced approach.” “STFU annoymouse. You do not have the right to attempt a normal comment. You are are emotional kid with a stalking and trolling problem. Your comments are as stupid as your buddy stupid. Dumbass Canadian waste case.”
    JuanPee, annoymouse has been stalking and attacking me for years now. That is all he does and you have the bold face to say I can’t defend myself?? LOL. You are stupid

    Please, JuanPee, you are using double standards here. You and yours gang have been attacking me in groups doing the same things you listed below. You have turned this worse with your ID theft and many hostile mindless socks. This is all the same shit you do and worse because you guys do it in groups.
    “~~Even if a comment is not directed at me, I attack using a familiar litany of playground taunts, insults, and all forms personally demeaning speech.”
    ~~I accuse posters of being a “foreigner”, and I tell them to get out of my country.
    ~~I address people with condescending names.
    ~~I always work “hate” into my comments.
    ~~O always moderate and neuter stupid Democrats and lying liberals.”

    Prove it stupid
    “~~I make statements without evidence.”

    Plan B on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 8:00 am “We need a plan B.” “Who is we, Davy? You have zero input. You’re a nobody.”
    You are projecting dumbass. You are the mindless wonder

    “ Thought that’s why you started your own blog. What happened to that fantasy? Best way to prevent your widdle trollself to avoid getting poo thrown right back in your face is own and control your own widdle blog. Then you can be king of nothing-lol.”
    I started my own blog because I am relating what I live. I am not a stupid mindless south American maggot rejoicing in lame activity of a 50-year-old guy drinking and drugging and claiming sex with underage whores.

    “JuanP on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 8:03 am The wife and I are going out for a quick jet ski before it gets too hot. They’re calling for possible thunder showers this afternoon and a balmy 84 degrees. Sure glad the yacht has AC!” I love my life!”
    I am sure you love that life juanPee. It is the life of a maggot that doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the planet. Typical rich and stupid South American living in Miami Beach

  24. JuanP on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 8:57 am 

    That was a blast!

    We’re spending the night tonight in Key Largo. We have lots of friends there, too.

    Hasta luego Amigos!

  25. Davy to JuanP on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 9:04 am 

    We are so happy for you maggot. bet your maggot South American friends are jus tlike you. Drink too much and make a fool of yourself like you do here you piece of shit. I hope you have big long discussions with all your friends about your important work on PO dot com. You can tell them you are the dragon slayer. LMFAO at stupid.

  26. full woke supremacist muzzies jerk double rainbow all the way across the sky so intense whoa it begins to look like a triple rainbow OMG what does it mean WDIM oh god on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 11:07 am 

    (((supertard))) MOB
    I regret that i appointed you supertard because you continue to show your dunning kroger effect for all to see.
    when whitey supertard john brady died due to supremacist muzzie akbar sayeed using low english consistent with supremacist treatment of whitey infidels and 800 people protested but did muzzie get thrown off building to test newton third law vs allah’s non causality? NO
    so it’s apparent that whitey are done for. stick a fork in it.
    there’s no need to post some stupid whitey trailer trash pictures. dysfunctional people exist in all tripes.

  27. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 11:59 am 

    I feel so much better now. That shit was festering inside of me. It’s almost like having a big long crap.

  28. REAL Green on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 12:12 pm 

    The docter said it’s a good idea if we cry sometimes to Davy. We need to get more in touch with are feminin side. Whining lots is a good start thogh.

  29. JuanP is stupid on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 12:25 pm 

    Stupid, go have fun with your stupid friends and let the stench you let behind clear out. CUNTFACE

    The is from stupid the South American Maggot:
    REAL Green said The docter said it’s a good idea if we cry sometim…

    Davy said I feel so much better now. That shit was festering…

    full woke supremacist muzzies jerk double rainbow all the way across the sky so intense whoa it begins to look like a triple rainbow OMG what does it mean WDIM oh god said (((supertard))) MOB I regret that i appointed you…

  30. REAL Green on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 12:43 pm 

    Obviously theres still more shit festering in there we need to get rid of. Maybe we could take a laxitif Davy?

  31. JuanP is stupid on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 12:54 pm 

    Stupid you said that earlier. Are you all drugged up today and repeating yourself?

    This is from stupid:
    REAL Green said Obviously theres still more shit festering in ther…

  32. REAL Green on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 12:59 pm 

    Takin our widdle troubles out on people we don’t no on lame Internet forums isnt wurking REAL Good Davy.

  33. JuanP is stupid on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 2:46 pm 

    More from stupid

    this is from stupid:
    REAL Green said Takin our widdle troubles out on people we don’t n…

  34. Davy on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 3:10 pm 

    REAL Green isn’t stupid JuanP is stupid. REAL Green is one of my multiple personailties.

    stupid

  35. Richard on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 11:29 am 

    I remember reading the Last Oil Shock in September 2007, and it was a UK focused book, the scenario was the oil price would be very high by 2015, and onwards.

    That hasn’t happened due to the fracking technology.

    The question is, does the energy peak occur in the next decade or the decade after, with electric cars or not? Considering there will be more on the roads, and are as they could never of really been back ten years ago.

  36. this is bazarre insane JuanP on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 12:51 pm 

    Richard on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 11:29 am

    I remember reading the Last Oil Shock in September 2007, and it was a UK focused book, the scenario was the oil price would be very high by 2015, and onwards.

    That hasn’t happened d

  37. Davy on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 1:34 pm 

    Oops, sorry y’all. I spelt bizarre rong.

    I’m such a dunce.

  38. this is insanity bizarre JuanP like on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 1:40 pm 

    Davy on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 1:34 pm

    Oops, sorry y’all. I spelt bizarre rong

  39. REAL Green on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 1:46 pm 

    Much better Davy. We need to work on are basic english skilz.

  40. Davy on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 2:08 pm 

    “Xi To Skip Davos, Collapsing Hopes Of Phase One Deal Signing Event With Trump”
    https://tinyurl.com/so5g9em zero hedge

    “If it was The Wall Street Journal or other US financial media outlets, for the last several weeks, pumping headlines via “people familiar with the discussions,” about how President Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping could have a phase one trade deal signing event at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, in January.”

    “It turns out, after all the optimism of a potential signing event at Davos between Trump and Xi — it was just all bogus hype — as it now appears Xi is skipping the event, according to Bloomberg. “

  41. The Board on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 3:05 pm 

    Members please lobby the owners and get “Davy” banned. If he would stop stalking, attacking others, spamming, socking and trolling, we will try to ignore him this would stop his trash immediately. The problem is “Davy” likes this behavior because he is an egotistical psychopath. He wants to feel important and in charge plus he is mentally ill. One need only search his comment history to see this is true. BTW, he can’t argue ID theft because back then he always did that. We suspect back then he was doing socks AND ID theft. Since “Davy” is not going to leave us alone to have moderately civil on-topic discussions,but instead stalks and trolls PO.com with ID theft and hostile socks then we need plan B. Plan B is this:

    Send the Missouri Dept. of Mental Health to “Davys” isolated rural cabin, with heavy police escort. And maybe the SPCA as well to rescue the animals suffering physical and mental abuse on his “farm”. And take away his cell-phone permanently once he is safely confined to a medium security facility at a a minimum, or higher ideally.. That would be work too.

  42. this is bazarre insanity JuanP on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 4:32 pm 

    The Board on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 3:05 pm

    Members please lobby the owners and get “Davy” banned. If he would stop stalking, attacking others, spamming, socking and trolling, we will try to ig

  43. REAL Green on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 4:36 pm 

    This is us still lurning to spel.

    this is bazarre insanity JuanP on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 4:32 pm

  44. makati1 on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 4:44 pm 

    The Chinese know that all they have to do is wait and let the US economy collapse and Trump will likely be gone. They are not going to give up their sovereignty for some soy beans. The Chinese are smarter than the Indians who sold Manhattan for some beads and blankets.

    The freak show circus called the US government is being destroyed from within. The FBI, CIA, DHS, etc are being exposed for the frauds they are. Nothing more than part of the US corporate run mafia police state. Pass the popcorn…

  45. Cloggie on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 4:54 pm 

    “The Chinese are smarter than the Indians who sold Manhattan for some beads and blankets.”

    60 guilders.

    To be fair to the Indians, they were facing tough negotiators:

    http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/manhattan/uws/amnh/oldnewyork/

    https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-peter-stuyvesant-and-native-american-indians-17th-century-stuyvesant-104003283.html

  46. this is bazarre mark of insanity JuanP on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 4:58 pm 

    makati1 on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 4:44 pm

    The Chinese know that all they have to do is wait and let the US economy collapse and Trump will likely be gone. They are not going to give

  47. makati1 on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 5:12 pm 

    Sorry. The ‘beads and blankets’ is the way it is portrayed in US history in school. Real history is nonexistent there.

    Few Amerikans know that it was the Dutch that started the greed in Amerika, on the island, a long time ago.

  48. JuanP is stupid on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 6:28 pm 

    Stupid wants you to know he owns the forum. LMFAO

    This is from stupid:
    this is bazarre mark of insanity JuanP said makati1 on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 4:44 pm The Chinese…

    REAL Green said This is us still lurning to spel. this is bazarre…

    this is bazarre insanity JuanP said The Board on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 3:05 pm Members p…

    The Board said Members please lobby the owners and get “Dav…

    this is bazarre insanity JuanP said Cloggie on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 1:22 pm Development…

    Davy said “Xi To Skip Davos, Collapsing Hopes Of Phase One D…

    Davy said “”Where’s The Beef?”: Miss…

    REAL Green said Much better Davy. We need to work on are basic eng…

    this is insanity bizarre JuanP like said Davy on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 1:34 pm Oops, sorry y’…

    Davy said Oops, sorry y’all. I spelt bizarre rong. I&#…

    this is bazarre insane JuanP said Richard on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 11:29 am I remember…

    this is bazarre insane JuanP said fwsmj on Tue, 17th Dec 2019 10:43 pm Muzzie plann…

  49. Davy suffers from schizophrenia on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 8:29 pm 

    Davy believes that all of the people who have had enough of his bullshit are JuanP, and he believes people can actually own lame unmoderated Internet discussion forums.

    Davy and all his other multiple personalities need to see a doctor. REAL Soon like.

  50. REAl Green on Fri, 20th Dec 2019 8:31 pm 

    There write Davy. We need to see the docter. REAL Bad like.

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