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Are We In Peak Oil Demand?

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Estimates are widely varied, so how can we even begin to answer this important question?

No one seems to agree just exactly when POD (peak oil demand) will occur. Let’s look at some of the projections by major institutions in this regard. This is just a sampling to indicate the wide discrepancy in views.

OPEC says demand for oil will continue to rise into the early 2040’s, then peak and fall off towards the end of that decade. Most oil companies agree with those projections, while BP (British Petroleum) is probably the least bullish of the big oils seeing the mid-2030’s as the point of POD, with consumption hitting over 125 million bpd. Currently, we are around 100 MM bpd consumption. Of that consumption, 55% is burned in transportation, 30% of that is used in personal ground transportation, and 25% is in all other forms of transport: aircraft, ships, trains.

The IEA (International Energy Agency) predicts POD in the mid-2030’s, but that’s just one of its scenarios. It supplies a number of different views depending on conditions, such as the speed with which EVs are adopted, the impact of PHEVs, and ride-sharing services. However, even in its most aggressive scenario, peak ICE does not hit until the mid-2020s, while many others forecast peak ICE will have already occurred. The IEA also predicts that only 30 million EVs will be on the road in 2040.

GS (Goldman Sachs) sees POD in 2024. Its forecast is for demand to grow at 1.2 MMbpd for 2019 and 2020, respectively, 50,000 barrels per day lower than the earlier forecast.  This is the general consensus of most analysts, that POD will occur mid-decade.

The most aggressive view I could find regarding the onset of POD was from ARK Invest. Its view is that we are already in POD or very close to it. ARK believes that demand for oil will slow and stall at around 100 MMbpd, then plateau and begin to fall in just a few years. Moreover, ARK asserts that, in 2022, oil production will decline and never recover, with close to 30 million EVs on the road in 2024, 15 years sooner than big oil predicts.

If ARK’s view is correct, then we should already be seeing signs of falling production and/or lower prices for products produced from oil.

I think, contrary to what big oil and the preponderance of analysts say, ARK Invest is correct. We are seeing OPEC cutting production in an attempt to shore up the price of oil. The world is currently, and has been for some time, awash in the stuff. Prices have remained stubbornly low and while OPEC has said the world economy can take $100 a barrel oil, they can’t seem to get the price up to even $70 a barrel.

Big Oil wants to placate investors who have been fleeing the oil patch in record numbers. Investments in exploration companies have fallen off the table, and various projects for recovering expensive oil have been tabled or abandoned entirely, as the low price of oil makes these investments entirely speculative and likely to lose money.

The above are all signs we are in the period of POD already and things will likely only get worse, at least for the oil companies and their investors, who are none too happy with the market going up leaps and bounds while the oil sector does next to nothing.

OPEC already has plans to discuss lowering oil production again at its next meeting. Why, in the world of increasing demand that it describes, would this be necessary? Finally, saying that other uses for oil — such as increased aviation fuel and petrochemical demand — will replace the fall in demand for gasoline and diesel due to the proliferation of EVs and PHEVs is an argument based on wishful thinking more than it is akin to reality.

One might think that this decline in demand for oil was precipitated by the trade war between the U.S. and China, and while that has certainly been a factor in reducing demand, it’s just another paragraph in the story that is the disruption and decline in oil demand and use that we are currently just beginning to experience.

I think, in 2040, demand for oil will be down to around 60 MMbpd, almost half of what it is today.

What do you think?



174 Comments on "Are We In Peak Oil Demand?"

  1. dave thompson on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 9:59 am 

    Peak oil demand is an industrial deception built to BS the investor public.

  2. Anonymous on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 10:51 am 

    North Dakota just passed 1.5 MM bopd.

    http://www.startribune.com/north-dakota-oil-production-for-first-time-tops-1-5-million-barrels-per-day/566176321/

    Paging Art Berman, Rune Livkern, and “Piccolo”.

  3. Robert Inget on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 10:58 am 

    Demand shows no signs of flagging.
    ‘Oil Wars’ ongoing do in fact affect SUPPLY.
    Check out how many countries are involved in fighting over libya’s extra fine petroleum.

    Cairo (AP) — Just days after declaring a “final,” decisive battle for the capital Tripoli, heavy fighting raged over a 24-hour period between rebel Libyan commander Khalifa Hifter and an array of militias loosely allied with the U.N.-supported government based there, officials said Saturday.

    The fresh bout of fighting comes after Hifter, the leader of the self-styled Libyan National Army, declared Thursday that the “zero hour” of the battle for Tripoli had begun, nearly eight months since he began his offensive to take the city.

    Mercenary fighters on both sides played a crucial role in the most recent offensive.

    The LNA media office shared footage of reinforcements arriving in Tripoli, including ground troops and armored vehicles, and of clashes in the southern areas. It said Hifter’s forces took control of al-Tawghaar town, just south of the city. However, Tripoli-based forces disputed the claim.

    The fighting has threatened to plunge Libya into another bout of violence rivaling the scale of the 2011 conflict that ousted and later killed longtime dictator Moammar Gadhafi. In the chaos that followed, the country was divided, with a weak U.N.-supported administration in Tripoli and a rival government in the east aligned with the LNA.

    Spokesman Ahmed al-Mesmari said the LNA also launched airstrikes overnight against an air base at the Air Force Academy in the western city of Misrata, targeting military warehouses allegedly housing Turkish-made drones used by Tripoli-allied militias.

    Misrata, in western Libya, is the country’s second largest city and is home to fierce militias who oppose Hifter and have been critical in defending Tripoli.

    The LNA’s media office also said it shot down a Turkish-made drone over the town of Ain Zara, just south of the capital. Hifter forces captured a major military camp from the Tripoli-allied militias and clashes were continuing around the camp, officials from both sides said.

    There was heavy fighting elsewhere around Tripoli in the new push by Hifter’s forces. Officials on both sides called this offensive “different” from previous ones in the past eight months.

    “It is a matter of days, and we will root out this corrupt and treacherous government,” an official within the LNA said. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief reporters.

    Since his troops marched toward Tripoli in April, Hifter has only been able to lay siege to the city, failing to claim it from the government of Prime Minister Fayez al-Sarraj. In past months, the battle lines have changed very little, with both sides dug in and shelling one another in the southern reaches of the capital. They have also sought support from their regional and international backers.

    U.N. experts saidin a 376-page report to the U.N. Security Council earlier this week that Jordan, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates are supporting the warring sides of Libya’s war, and have “routinely and sometimes blatantly supplied weapons, with little effort to disguise the source” in violation of a U.N. arms embargo.

    Hifter is backed by the United Arab Emirates and Egypt, as well as France and Russia, while the Tripoli-based government receives aid from Turkey, Qatar and Italy.

    “The Russian mercenaries are leading the battle (for Hifter’s forces) this time. There are hundreds of mercenaries on the front lines,” an official at the Tripoli-based government said. “But we will fight and beat them.” He also spoke anonymously.

    Libyan and U.S. officials had accused Russia of deploying fighters through a private security contractor, the Wagner Group, to key battleground areas in Libya in the past months. The Government of National Accord has documented between 600 and 800 Russian fighters in Libya fighting with Hifter forces.

    “The Russian fighters’ toughness, lethal techniques and coordination discipline have instilled fear in the anti-Hifter forces,” said Jalel Harchaoui, a Libya expert at The Netherlands Institute of International Relations. “Now, Hifter and all foreign states backing him have become dramatically more confident that Hifter’s brigades will enter Tripoli within the foreseeable future.”

    The report also said the presence of the Chadian and Sudanese fighters “has become more marked” in 2019, posing “a direct threat” to the security and stability to Libya.

    On Thursday, Hifter declared a final, “decisive battle” to take Tripoli, saying that “the zero hour has ticked.”

    The new push by Hifter came after Sarraj’s government signed a security arrangement and maritime deal with Turkey last month.

    The maritime deal would give Turkey access to an economic zone across the Mediterranean, over the objections of Greece, Egypt and Cyprus. All three have blasted the accord as being contrary to international law. The deal has added tension to Turkey’s ongoing dispute with Greece, Cyprus and Egypt over oil and gas drilling rights in the eastern Mediterranean. (30)

    As usual, our guy (Trump) is cozy with strongman and potential dictator Hifter.

    Libya seeks to start another regional war where Syria
    didn’t quite.

    THE FACT that so many oil buyers are fighting over
    so little oil, as in Syria, is significant, in my view.

  4. Duncan Idaho on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 11:26 am 

    Libya has some of the best oil on the planet.
    Te greed heads have orgasms just thinking about stealing it.
    “the zero hour has ticked.”

  5. dave thompson on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 1:44 pm 

    There is no such thing as “peak oil demand”. Easy to prove because no matter how much oil is extracted, refined, and put on the so called “free” market, it will all and always be consumed.

  6. makati1 on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:11 pm 

    Third World Amerika….Read them and weep, Amerikans.

    https://www.dollarcollapse.com/welcome-to-the-third-world/

    “One upon a time, the US was a place where police came when you called, a basic safety net caught those who fell on hard times, and a lifetime of work was rewarded with a decent retirement. A First World country, in other words. To be born here was to win life’s lottery.

    But apparently this was an illusion fueled by borrowing and money printing, and now that we can’t borrow quite so much, many things we took for granted are going away.”

  7. Cloggie on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 5:33 pm 

    Germany getting tough with the US, threatens to impose tariffs on US shale gas in retalliation for the US Nord Stream 2 sanctions:

    https://www.rt.com/news/475895-nord-stream-germany-backfire/

    “‘We must show US that the jokes are over’: Top German MP says Berlin shouldn’t sit idle as Washington hampers its energy projects”

    That pipeline is going to be built.

  8. Sissyfuss on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 7:57 pm 

    We used to talk about POD on this site but it meant PeaK Oil Dynamics back then. Davy, who was the old oil manager that used to debate Shortonoil all the time? Drawing a blank but he knew the industry forwards and backwards.

  9. makati1 on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 9:09 pm 

    Davy knows shit, Sissyfuss. He is so delusional, he never gives a picture of the real world in his rants and word salads. He has regressed to trying to support the failing US with bullshit and putdowns while being the biggest Sino/Russophobe on this site. Best ignored.

  10. JuanP on Sat, 14th Dec 2019 10:46 pm 

    Sissyfuss, the person you are thinking of is “Rockman”.

  11. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 12:31 am 

    Clogg

    Germany getting tough with us?

    Remember what happened last time they tried that. (check your history)

    LOL

  12. Cloggie on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 2:26 am 

    Clogg

    Germany getting tough with us?

    Remember what happened last time they tried that. (check your history)

    You know shit about history. WW2 was Germany, raped by the rest of the world, by design as of 1933.

    This time it is going to be the US raped by the rest of the world… because US whitey has enough of third world USA. Countries divided in itself cannot “project power” onto the outside world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Outhk9KSnUo

    You got your arse kicked by North-Vietnam. Now you are facing the EU, Russia and China. Walkover.

    Boy, do we have scores to settle.

  13. print baby print on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 3:14 am 

    what present your kid ask for as soon as is 18.
    Driver license.
    Enough said about peak demand story .

  14. Dooma on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 4:17 am 

    Peak oil demand – anything to keep kicking the can down the road.

    Pipe dreams of automated cars and drones delivering packages. More BS to keep the masses from the truth.

    We have no substitute for the energy density of oil. Each year we use more & more. Not to mention our love-affair with plastics.

    Why at the beginning of this “article” do they separate the use of oil into transport (55%) and other forms of transport (25%), are they trying to make it sound like we don’t rely on oil for 80% of all transport?

    Finally: “longtime dictator Moammar Gadhafi”. This is typical American-Jew media propaganda. The man was loved by just about everyone in Libya. His downfall was to want to move from trading oil in USDs

  15. Davy on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:02 am 

    We have seen these articles on peak demand for some time but oil consumption growth continues. The key though is the rate of growth is stalling. We saw short periods of stall in the past but China stepped in with a huge draw on oil reserves to fuel its massive build out post 08 crisis. We don’t have China anymore. China is in a demand decline. I would say what happens in China is what will drive peak demand. The reason I say that is the rest of the world is either inconsequential or developed and low growth. China represents high growth and generally drives other high growth areas of Asia. That trend is ending with China’s decline. China’s decline is decline in growth just like oil. Imagine when actual decline happens. Oil is here to stay but it will now be in decline and concurrently in decline with a globalism that is faltering.

  16. Davy on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:04 am 

    “His downfall was to want to move from trading oil in USDs”

    His downfall was for treating people like shit and getting weak. There was then the evil Hillary Clinton and corrupt Obama’s apparatus that took advantage of that. US dollars were not a big issue.

  17. Cloggie on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:25 am 

    “His downfall was for treating people like shit and getting weak. ”

    Liar. As Dooma said, Khadaffi was popular in Libya. It was the best run country in Africa, although the competition there is not exactly stiff.

    Khadaffi was brought down by French kike Sarkozy and his “philosopher” sidekick kike Bernard-Henri Lévy, obviously after receiving the nod from Washington:

    https://www.france24.com/en/20120606-libyan-war-brought-you-bernard-henri-levy-sarkozy-clinton-obama

    “The Libyan War, brought to you by Bernard-Henri Levy”

    https://observer.com/2015/05/why-does-everyone-hate-bernard-henri-levy/

    “Why Does Everyone Hate Bernard-Henri Lévy?”

    https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/Commentary/Opinion/2011/0325/Bernard-Henri-Levy-War-in-Iraq-was-detestable.-War-in-Libya-was-inevitable

    “Bernard-Henri Levy: War in Iraq was detestable. War in Libya was inevitable.”

    Hahaha. The real reason why Khadaffi was brought down was because he refused to bow for the ZOG-US empire. Can’t have that.

    Thank God, Russia and China are meanwhile strong enough to keep ZOG at a distance. And getting stronger by the day. To my pleasant surprise posted the Bobster an article about how Russian-European mercenaries are helping a anti-UN Hifter warlord to victory.

    Syria-2.0.

    I love it!

    Here Levy tarted by protesters:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LavzJ95O7n0

    LOL

  18. Davy on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:31 am 

    “Liar. As Dooma said, Khadaffi was popular in Libya. It was the best run country in Africa, although the competition there is not exactly stiff.”

    Liar, tell that to the other people that Khadaffi brutalize and didn’t bribe. We saw first hand the hatred for the scumbag when they pulled him out of the drainage pipe like a trapped dog. The US & Europe were wrong to destroy that country but Khadaffi like Syria were places that created the environment for a revolution. Just the type of place the deep state US/Europe likes to exploit when they resist global leadership

  19. Cloggie on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:35 am 

    “Liar, tell that to the other people that Khadaffi brutalize and didn’t bribe”

    He this is stinking Muslim-Africa, inhabited by IQ80 racial trash, what do you expect?

    Spare me your self-serving American hypocrisy. Libya has been turned into a hellhole NOW, because of western intervention, just like Iraq and Syria.

    “We saw first hand the hatred for the scumbag when they pulled him out of the drainage pipe like a trapped dog.”

    These were just another warlord tribe, smelling their chance to take over from Khadaffi. And you want to turn these sodomizers into human rights champs?

    Disgusting hypocrite.

  20. Cloggie on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:37 am 

    Why the UN needs to be abolished and replaced by something Eurasian:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7793253/PETER-HITCHENS-reveals-evidence-watchdog-suppressed-report-casting-doubt-Assad-gas-attack.html

    “PETER HITCHENS reveals fresh evidence that UN watchdog suppressed report casting doubt on Assad gas attack”

    Kosher lies and nothing else. Thank God Amurrica is turning into an impotent third world cuntry, that will automatically fall apart, problem solved.

  21. Davy on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:39 am 

    “China’s “Moment Of Reckoning” Arrives: $38BN State-Owned Giant Announces Largest Dollar Bond Default In Two Decades”
    https://tinyurl.com/wptlrwg zero hedge

    “Two weeks ago we previewed what we said would soon be a D-Day for China’s bond market, as a massive commodities trader and Global 500 state-owned enterprise was set for an “unprecedented” bond default. As of last week, this historic default is now in the history books after Tewoo, the closely watched Chinese commodities trader, became the biggest dollar bond defaulter among the nation’s state-owned companies in two decades, in what Bloomberg called a “moment of reckoning” for Beijing as China struggles to contain credit risk in a weakening economy, as bond defaults hit an all time high and are set to keep rising in the coming years. Last Wednesday, Tewoo Group announced results of its “unprecedented” debt restructuring, which saw a majority of its investors accepting heavy losses, and which according to rating agencies qualifies as an event of default. As a result of the default, until recently seen as virtually impossible for a state-owned company, investors’ perceptions are undergoing a dramatic U-turn about government-owned borrowers whose state-ownership had for years offered an ironclad sense of security. No more: The fact that a state-owned enterprise such as Tewoo has now defaulted on repaying its dollar bonds in full, confirms that Beijing will no longer bail out troubled SOEs, let alone private firms, perhaps due to the strains imposed by the economy which while growing at just below 6%, is slowing the most in three decades. It also raises concerns over the Chinese province of Tianjin, where Tewoo is based, following a series of rating downgrades and financing difficulties suffered by some of the city’s state-run firms. The metropolis near Beijing also has the highest ratio of local government financing vehicle bonds to GDP in China.”

  22. Davy on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:47 am 

    “Liar, tell that to the other people that Khadaffi brutalize and didn’t bribe”He this is stinking Muslim-Africa, inhabited by IQ80 racial trash, what do you expect?”
    There you go with your simpleton racist IQ explains everything

    “Spare me your self-serving American hypocrisy. Libya has been turned into a hellhole NOW, because of western intervention, just like Iraq and Syria.”
    I admit the US was wrong you don’t admit wrong doing of your Eurotards and further you blame the US along with denial. Who is the hypocrite? I think that is clear like most of your disgusting one sided chauvinistic comments.

    “We saw first hand the hatred for the scumbag when they pulled him out of the drainage pipe like a trapped dog.” “These were just another warlord tribe, smelling their chance to take over from Khadaffi. And you want to turn these sodomizers into human rights champs?”
    Who is You?? You Europeans wanted change there also except for the ones who were being bribed by Khadaffi. China and Russia with luacrative dealings didn’t want change. Everyone stinks when it comes to Libya. I admit it but others like you hypocritically finger pointers.

    “Disgusting hypocrite.”
    FRAUD

  23. Davy on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:49 am 

    “Why the UN needs to be abolished and replaced by something Eurasian:”

    There the cloggo goes with his fantasy Eurasian thingy. cloggo, there is no PBM Eurasian thingy. That is in your perverted mind. Wake up to reality.

  24. Where is stupid??? on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:50 am 

    stupid up yet?

  25. REAL Green on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 6:16 am 

    “All The Good (Under-the-Radar) News About Renewable Energy”
    https://tinyurl.com/ww9bkqk clean tecnica

    “NREL ran the numbers for solar power in a newly published article in the journal iScience under the title, “Sunny with a Chance of Curtailment: Operating the US Grid with Very High Levels of Solar Photovoltaics.“ The question is, how much solar can the US grid integrate before running into trouble? NREL looked at a 2050 scenario under which the nation’s three main power grids operate on 55% solar PV. The researchers concluded that “a system with 55% PV could plausibly support all U.S. energy needs,” as long as there are correspondingly high levels of curtailment and energy storage systems. Curtailment is currently viewed as a bug, but under the 55% scenario it would act as a feature. “While curtailment is often seen as a barrier for integrating solar into today’s power system, it would be the ‘new normal’ in this future,” NREL concludes. “Even with high levels of storage, model results showed significant curtailment during many spring days—and showed that curtailment could actually increase system flexibility.” For that matter, over in the Netherlands they are looking at opportunities for monetizing output that would otherwise be curtailed, namely, by using renewable energy to “split” hydrogen from water. As a zero emission energy carrier, hydrogen can be transported and stored indefinitely.”

  26. REAL Green on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 6:17 am 

    In this article we see a level where the grid saturates and that is 55%. In some places like northern Europe the excess can be exported to other areas so some small areas can brag about high renewable penetration but they only have this because of lower penetration elsewhere. The other point worth mentioning is curtailment. This poses a significant issue with ROI. This is one of the reason renewables costs are so under reported. Once over 55% the cost of other option drives the overall renewable cost up dramatically. Storage is not a force yet except for short term storage. Zero emission energy carriers like hydrogen are exciting but no game changer either. They will provide expensive alternatives to curtailment. Our cheerleading techno optimist will try to hype the dropping cost of making hydrogen but he falls short of mentioning the holistics of hydrogen and the economy. A hydrogen economy means a new one and we can’t afford the one we have now.

    One issue not discussed and so important is intermittency and behavior. If areas would agree to embracing intermittency and live with the consequences much more could be done. This includes curtailment issues but also lack of power during low power periods. These periods could be both long term and short term. Certain industries could be arranged to take advantage of curtailment. This is deeper than hydrogen production. This could be many different kinds of industry that adjust to predicted intermittency with flexible production both with curtailment and low power. Households could adjust too with flexible usage. This is especially true of rural areas.

  27. REAL GREEN on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 6:59 am 

    good read:

    “Nuclear waste disposal drilled deep into earth’s crust”
    https://tinyurl.com/ws4jfkw energy skeptic

  28. Sissyfuss on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 8:28 am 

    Rockman, of course. Thank you Juan. You are a scholar and a gentleman. Rockmans knowledge of the oil business was outstanding.

  29. JuanP is stupid on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 8:32 am 

    This is from stupid. he is up being stupid and boring. He loves to damage and destroy the truth. He belongs in a confinement of some kind. I wish we could ban him and of course deport him.

    This is stupid:
    Sissyfuss said Rockman, of course. Thank you Juan. You are a scho…

    EneergyMan said Well said Anal. The world is done with these retar…

    ANAL REAPER said I pray Greta Thunberg gets RAPED. She is a puppet…

  30. Cloggie on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 9:03 am 

    “Rockman, of course. Thank you Juan. You are a scholar and a gentleman. Rockmans knowledge of the oil business was outstanding.”

    Indeed. Thanks to him I understood by December 2012 that that Heinberg-peakoil thingy was not going to happen and that civilization had at least a decade more time.

    By now I know that the UCG potential is so enormous that I stopped worrying a world running out of fossil fuel.

    Enough to fry us all.

  31. Davy on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 11:42 am 

    JuanPeePee is our worstest arch enemy of y’all. He hurt our widdle feelings so bad we like to pretend we can ban him from our country and our board. somewheres deep down inside our fragile widdle ego we no that’s not going to happen. But it’s the only way we no to help stop us having another widdle emotional meltdown.

    Were REAL Sorry.

    We can’t help ourselfs.

  32. JuanP is stupid on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 12:03 pm 

    stupid is active today of course ruining the place for everyone else. fuckface

    this is from stupid:
    Davy said JuanPeePee is our worstest arch enemy of y’all. He…

    Davy said ““Potential”, yea I have the “potential” to win th…

    John said PeakOilDemandIsBS on Sun who give a fuck what you…

    Jeff BATTISTINI said “Electric cars have the potential to reduce global…

    PeakOilDemandIsBS said “Electric cars have the potential to reduce…

    Cloggie said “Rockman, of course. Thank you Juan. You are a sch…

    John said Will peak oil actually matter? In the next 5 years…

    Sissyfuss said The fact that emissions show no real sign of dimin…

    TIKIMAN said If you don’t understand peak oil you may be…

  33. Davy on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 12:28 pm 

    Oops, sorry for getting all triggered and losing my widdle temper again y’all. And for the childlike REAL Bad cussin wurds.

  34. JuanP on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 12:44 pm 

    Davy said Oops, sorry for trolling endlessly and making a mockery of the place (sarc). Its my fault but who cares I hate people and I am special.

  35. JuanP is projecting on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 12:47 pm 

    “Davy said Oops, sorry for trolling endlessly and making a mockery of the place (sarc). Its my fault but who cares I hate people and I am special.”

  36. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 4:06 pm 

    Millennials Are Leaving Religion And Not Coming Back

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/millennials-are-leaving-religion-and-not-coming-back/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

  37. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 4:08 pm 

    Brazil to move its Israel embassy to Jerusalem – Bolsonaro’s son

    https://www.rt.com/news/475960-brazil-move-embassy-jerusalem-netanyahu/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=push_notifications&utm_campaign=push_notifications

    Looks like we know who is pulling the string of the so called ‘populist’..

    I never would have guessed. The right never gets tired of being the kikes whipping boys.

  38. Cloggie on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 4:34 pm 

    “I never would have guessed. The right never gets tired of being the kikes whipping boys.”

    World-renowned Zionist Adolf H.would have been in favor of moving the German embassy to Jerusalem too.

    The only thing right-wingers care about is that the jews are in Israel and not here.

    Perhaps you reread your posts to figure out why that would be the case.

    Forget it, rhetorical. Self-reflection is not your fort. Too busy conquering the world for your tribe, eh?

    Michael Ledeen:

    “”every now and again the United States has to pick up a crappy little country and throw it against a wall just to prove we mean business.””

    “[W]e are an awesome revolutionary force. Creative destruction is our middle name. We tear down the old order every day, in business and science, literature, art and cinema, politics and the law. Our present enemies hate this whirlwind of energy and creativity, which menaces their traditions and shames them for their inability to keep pace. Seeing America undo old conventions, they fear us, for they do not wish to be undone. They cannot feel secure so long as we are there, for our very existence – not our policies – threatens their legitimacy. They must attack us in order to survive, just as we must destroy them to advance our historic mission.”

    But your game is over. You lost Europe in Wannsee and the USSR under and after Stalin. And now you are going to lose America, the slowest boat of them all.

    Yeehaw!

  39. makati1 on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:15 pm 

    We actually agree on this one, Cloggie. Maybe this generation is intelligent after all.

    Religion: Fairy tales for the weak and uneducated, started by the power hungry to control the serfs and live a fancy lifestyle. No proof needed, only “faith”. They even controlled kings and pharaohs.

    My preacher uncle lived a secure, comfortable life without ever actually working. The churches, here in the Philippines, are beautiful monuments, often situated in poor neighborhoods and financed with promises of some fictional paradise after. Ditto for most of the world, including the US.

  40. Anonymouse on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:21 pm 

    Not sure who the kloggkosher is trying to fool, but hooknose rodent there, is a creationist mak.

    Its just all part of the persona, and act he puts on. IE not to be taken seriously, at all.

  41. makati1 on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:32 pm 

    Interesting thought, Anon. I don’t try to sort out the various insanities on here. I just comment on some of the posts for what they say. I realize we have some serious mental problems commenting on PO, with Davy leading the parade.

  42. Anonymouse on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:38 pm 

    I have lots of interesting thoughts and desires mak, if you know what I mean

  43. Anonymouse on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:41 pm 

    No kidding eh? All the exceptionalTARD does these days is wail at any comment he doesn’t like(which is all of them) by pulling out one of his (many) stupid sock handles and call you ‘juanp’.

    Then he partially quotes the comment, calls [you] juanp, and then waits for the chance to do it again. Pure nuttery.

    Its ‘stupid’ if you ask me, and by stupid I mean, hes gone completely mad. Someone needs to send a van, guys in white suits with butterfly nets out to his cabin the ozarks.

    Sooner the better.

  44. makati1 on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 5:45 pm 

    anon, have I told you I have a live in? He is a great person and lets me live in his house for free.

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  46. makati1 on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 7:26 pm 

    Davy, your bullshit is getting really smelly. I do not have a “live in”. I have a business partner. I share a house with him and share expenses. I have no need to “own” anything and prefer not to. No responsibilities or money trails for the US to follow. All cash.

  47. JuanP on Sun, 15th Dec 2019 7:40 pm 

    mak, if you troll Davy he is going to troll you back. That is what he does to me. If you ignore him he will ignore you. The problem is yourself, Anonymouse, and I can’t ignore Davy. The problem is with us not Davy. So, mak, we are the smelly ones

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    supertard mak, it is ok to like guys. I am out

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