It isn’t just that Donald Trump routinely thumbs his nose at the establishment, insults media figures he sees as unfair and bucks conventional wisdom.

It is that President-elect Trump is defying the will of the deep state, military industrial complex base of ultimate power in the United States. That is why he is treading dangerous waters, and risks the fate of JFK.

Trump publicly dissed the intelligence community assessments on Russian hacking; they retaliated with a made up dossier about the alleged Trump-Putin ‘golden shower’ episode.

Russians have compromising footage of Donald Trump paying prostitutes to piss on a bed #GoldenShowerGatehttps://t.co/AdQGhE2y06

— Loco Goose (@CrazyGoose) January 11, 2017

While it may be a silly falsehood, it may also be serving as a final warning that they get to script reality, not him.

Perhaps they want Trump to feel blackmailed and controlled by alluding to fake dirt, while reminding him of the real dirt they hold on his activities (whatever it may be).

Insulting the credibility of the intelligence community in a public way – as the man elected to the highest office in the land – is liable to ruffle a few feathers, and it could provoke a serious response.

Trump knows the power of the people he is taunting, but he may not be aware of where the line is between play in political rhetoric and actually irritating and setting off those who control policy.

There is plenty of Trump misbehavior that can be simply written off, or trivialized, but cutting into the war and statecraft narrative of the shadow government steering this deep state is a deviation too far.

It is one thing to play captain, but another to imagine that you steer the ship. They are happy for Trump to take all the prestige and privileges of the office; but not for him to cut into the big business of foreign conflict, the undercurrent of all American affairs, the dealings in death, drugs, oil and weapons, and the control of people through a manipulation of these affairs.

If President Trump takes his rogue populism too far, he will suffer the wrath of the same people who took out Kennedy… there are some things that are not tolerated by those who are really in charge.

And now leaders in the Senate are warning President-elect Trump about the stupidity of going against the national-security establishment.

As Jacob G. Hornberger warns:

In a truly remarkable bit of honesty and candor regarding the U.S. national-security establishment, new Senate minority leader Charles Schumer has accused President-elect Trump of “being really dumb.”… for taking on the CIA and questioning its conclusions regarding Russia.

“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you…. He’s being really dumb to do this.”

[…]

No president since John F. Kennedy has dared to take on the CIA or the rest of the national security establishment […] They knew that if they opposed the national-security establishment at a fundamental level, they would be subjected to retaliatory measures.

Kennedy… After the Bay of Pigs, he vowed to tear the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them to the winds. He also fired CIA Director Allen Dulles, who, in a rather unusual twist of fate, would later be appointed to the Warren Commission to investigate Kennedy’s murder.

Kennedy’s antipathy toward the CIA gradually extended to what President Eisenhower had termed the military-industrial complex, especially when it proposed Operation Northwoods, which called for fraudulent terrorist attacks to serve as a pretext for invading Cuba, and when it suggested that Kennedy initiate a surprise nuclear attack on the Soviet Union.

[…]

Worst of all, from the standpoint of the national-security establishment, [Kennedy] initiated secret personal negotiations with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev and Cuban leader Fidel Castro, both of whom, by this time, were on the same page as Kennedy.

[…]

Kennedy was fully aware of the danger he faced by taking on such a formidable enemy.

And to the extent that President Kennedy consciously stood up to the system, he paid the price for his attempt at independent wielding of power from the Oval Office.

It is a shuddering thought. A sharp lesson in history that must not be misinterpreted.

The implications for Trump are quite clear. If his refusal to take intelligence briefings, or follow CIA advice is serious, then serious consequences will follow. If Trump is serious about peace with Putin when they insist on war, there will be a problem.

There are several powers behind the throne that have wanted to ensure that presidents don’t let the power go to their head, or try to change course from the carefully arranged crisis-reaction-solution paradigm.

True peace is not good for military industrial complex business; true peace, without the persistence of grave threats, and plenty of sparks of chaos to back it up, cannot be tolerated.

As things have progressed today, making friendly with Putin, and calling off the war with Russia may simply be impermissible. If Trump is attempting to negotiate his own peace – and sing along with Frank Sinatra’s “My Way” at the inauguration, then he is in for a very rude awakening.

If, on the other hand, he is the Trump card being played by this very same establishment, then things may develop according to the same ultimate objectives, albeit through a ‘wild card’ path styled after the ego of President Trump.

With Goldman Sachs and neocon advisors filling up his administration, Trump may be simply nudged in the right direction. But the intelligence community is not willing to take many chances – and there are clearly contingencies in place.

As SHTF has previously reported, the continuity of government “Doomsday” command-and-control planes were brought out after the election as a public show of power to Trump and the American people. The shadow government is real, and for now, maintains dominance.

“Mysterious” plane circling over Denver was “just” an E-6B Mercury “doomsday” plane https://t.co/SqJlBkdIqg pic.twitter.com/oE0BBWrhFL

— The Aviationist (@TheAviationist) November 17, 2016

Former congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul warned of the shadow government taking control of President Trump’s administration before it was even formed:

You know, we look at the president, we look at what he said, we look at what he might do, and we look at his advisors, but quite frankly, there is an outside source, which we refer to as a deep state or a shadow government. There is a lot of influence by people that are actually more powerful than our government itself, our president and on up. I mean, you take for instance how our government gets involved in elections around the world, whether it’s in the Middle East or Ukraine.

Trump is reportedly retaining his own private security, bucking the protocol of Secret Service detail… and this clearly a sign that he and his team have thought through security issues and the possibility of an inside job.

This is prudent, but these deep state guys have access throughout the system at every level. They are anywhere, and everywhere. Probably someone that Trump trusts. There are certainly many threats.

For the sake of the stability of this country, and President-elect Trump’s own life, let us hope that they stay several steps ahead of anyone who might want to do him harm.

This is eerie, but real.

. . . . . . . . . . . .

On a personal level, it seems wise to prepare for the possibility of widespread unrest due to political instability.

Tread carefully at the scene of the inauguration, and any high profile political gatherings or demonstrations.

Riots at the inauguration, or in cities throughout the country are possible, maybe even likely, as is an attempted assassination. Even if this scenario is a long shot, and taboo to even discuss, the role of the CIA in past coups, revolutions and uprisings is enough to warrant taking precautions.

There is an element of chaos present during this unprecedented transfer of power to the 45th president, and a wounded animal in the defensive-attack posture.

If you are at a protest, either as a participant, or as an observer, remain aware of the larger actions of the crowd, identify potential provocateurs and stay away from points of potential violence. Police could use anti-riot gear and spray the crowd, fire rubber bullet, use microwave heating or auditory devices, make mass arrests, or block off large portions of the city.

If anything significant happens, use any available phone or camera to film it, but be prepared for confiscation or technologies to wipe phones. An EMF shielded bag could block this; live stream or upload instantly to as many video platforms as possible, but they have been known to jam cell phone signals at mass gatherings and demonstrations. Make copies and store a physical copy, and several back-ups.

If you are at home, do not wait for the all clear signal from the authorities, shelter in place and prepare to ride out a storm, if something sensational or deadly takes place and panic spreads. Do not trust the media; and try to take notice if a coup has taken place, and constitutional authority subverted.

Read more:

“Beware of the Shadow Government”: Ron Paul Advises President-Elect

Is This The Coup In America? “U.S. Troops On Russian Border” To Start War Before Inauguration

Why Was A Mysterious Navy Plane Conducting “Secret Electronic Command/Control Drill” Over Denver?

The “Dead List”: Who The Secret Government Plans to Target Next

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108 Comments on "Will The CIA Assassinate Trump? Ron Paul Warns Of “More Powerful, Shadow Government”"

Boat on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:15 pm 



Oops military at almost 600 billion.

DerHundistlos on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:16 pm 



Pence would be worse.

makati1 on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:32 pm 



Boat, you don;t see much of reality so you have no idea. I did not say peace. I said no wars with China or Russia. I did say BAU++. Financial business.

DerHundistlos on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:34 pm 



@ Davy

You claim the Dems received thrashing. That statement does not square with reality. Despite widespread dislike for Billary, she managed to win the popular vote by more than 3.000.000 votes. Regarding congress, the Repubcons outmaneuvered the Dems. by gerrymandering districts. The Cons do not have a mandate.
All of the talk about a Trump assassination is being planted by the Trump campaign in order to elicit sympathy. Look what happened at Trump’s news conference when the room was packed with paid staffers to create the illusion that he has the support of the media.

makati1 on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:34 pm 



Boat, BTW: The military budget plus “extras” comes to morethan one trillion, not 600 billion. And, if truth be known, probably closer to double that $600B. If you believe government numbers you are a fool.

DerHundistlos on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:57 pm 



TRUMP ASSUMES PRESIDENCY WITH LOWEST EVER APPROVAL:

Just over a third of Americans approve of President-elect Donald Trump, according to a new poll released hours before his inauguration.

The survey from Fox News showed that 37 percent of Americans approve of Trump ahead of his inauguration, while 54 percent do not.

GregT on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:57 pm 



Boat,

Go play in traffic.

DerHundistlos on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:58 pm 



BTW, the poll was conducted by Fox Noise. Can’t blame this one on those damn liberals.

Sissyfuss on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 8:00 pm 



That’s 600 billion,Boater. And that’s on top of the 6.5 trillion lost inventory.

Boat on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 8:02 pm 



Der………

Wow actual facts about the election. Once you got past the 3 million it was a little one sided on the spin but nevertheless surprising.

GregT on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 8:37 pm 



“TRUMP ASSUMES PRESIDENCY WITH LOWEST EVER APPROVAL”

Get over it already. Donald Trump is the current President of the United States. Don’t like the democratic process? Move to North Korea, or STFU.

GregT on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 8:50 pm 



@ Boat-retard,

“Wow actual facts about the election.”

Actual facts about the election? No matter how much you huff and puff, hold your breath until you’re blue in the face, or how big your temper tantrums become, Donald Trump is your president, and commander in chief. Grow the fuck up already.

DerHundistlos on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 9:57 pm 



@ Greg T Are you serious about the election being a “democratic’ process? In a true democracy, it’s one man and one vote, not some archaic electoral college that determines the winner.

No, I won’t “shut the fuck up”, but continue to raise holy hell. Too bad facts are the source of such inconvenient truths for you.

DerHundistlos on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 10:02 pm 



Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, declared (as if a do nothing congress is a badge of honor) that the 113th Congress will not protect a single new acre of public land as a Park, National Monument or Wilderness Area. Last years congress was the first ever in 72 years of tradition that failed to expand land’s open to the public and to protect flora and fauna. To exacerbate the Republican War on the Natural World, a bill is sailing through congress that would, for the first time in the history of the US, begin selling off “surplus” public lands to the highest bidder.

GregT on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 11:01 pm 



“No, I won’t “shut the fuck up”, but continue to raise holy hell.”

Then I wish you all of the best of luck Derhund, and hopefully you don’t land yourself in prison. You live in a democratic society, yet you continue to make an attempts to undermine that ideology, honestly buddy, what the fuck is wrong with you? Not playing with a full deck?

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 1:26 am 



Greg Hunter about inauguration day:

http://usawatchdog.com/weekly-news-wrap-up-12017-greg-hunter/

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 1:32 am 



Turkey to become Sultanate:

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/tuerkei-parlament-billigt-recep-tayyip-erdogans-verfassungsreform-a-1131055.html

Erdogan needs to win referendum to push it through, likely will succeed.

Erdogan could be with us until 2034. Enough time to set up his neo-Ottoman empire.

The good news: Europe got finally rid of this pain in the neck.

Denial on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 1:57 am 



Wow! I am shocked at all these trump lovers….I am amazed that they were saying the world was doomed when Obama was president and now the Trust fund boy is in office all is well…..Is going to pull something out of his Ass Greg T that I don’t know about….please do tell because you seem to be so far up his that you must know….

It does not matter who is office! Repeat it does not matter who is in office we are in massive decline globally and some trust fund boy that has never worked a day in his life is not going to fix it….

Holy shiiiittt it never seems to amaze me how a trustfunder can transform him self into a working mans hero

Greg T and others I will no disregard everything you say from here on out….I didn’t realize you were a “Plant” just of another species……

makati1 on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 2:45 am 



Denial, that “trust fund boy” is a billionaire who got there by knowing how to negotiate and run a business. Something the last 5 presidents had no clue about. ‘Work’ can be done without sweat if you are intelligent enough.

Trump is going to shake up TPTB if he is not assassinated first. They are already into Valium big time. I only hope he can keep the world out of the war TPTB want so bad, with nuclear armed powers, China and Russia.

I don’t give a damn if he “makes America great again” or not. It is too late for that, I think, no matter who is pulling the strings. America is scheduled to fail from its own debt, laziness and greed. But he might just keep it from being destroyed totally by war. Time will tell.

DerHundistlos on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 3:19 am 



@ Greg T

You’re suggesting/hoping that I will, “land myself in prison” for having the temerity to reference a Fox News poll that Thumper was sworn in as president with the lowest approval rating ever? How subversive, oh my, oh my. And such statement, “undermines that ideology”!!

Ok, you win. I promise to flog myself 100 times as penance, and I promise never again to utter a word of criticism of our dear leader. Feeling better I hope.

Now whose playing with less than a full deck…..

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 3:23 am 



Masses of jobless migrants who hate Christians and whoes talents extend to asking for handouts and free socialised medical care…
How many innocents died under Islam’s thundering truck wheels? This HAS to stop.

Yeah, but how joe?

How about opening your war archives and tell the truth about WW1 and WW2 for a change, rather then keeping these lies alive, all in the interest of those who want to wipe your kind out and for whom your (Anglo) kind is nothing but a tool to advance their interests (a project that at least in the US has been temporarily halted). You will have to jump over your own shadow, joe. Do you have that largesse?

Hint: it wasn’t Dolfie who wanted to wipe you out, somebody else wants that.

http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/soros-fergie12.jpg

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 3:44 am 



@joe

Statement made by Christopher Dodd, one of the chieftains behind the Nuremberg scam:

“You know how I have despised anti-Semitism. You know how strongly I feel toward those who preach intolerance of any kind. With that knowledge — you will understand when I tell you that this staff is about seventy-five percent Jewish. Now my point is that the Jews should stay away from this trial — for their own sake.
“For — mark this well — the charge ‘a war for the Jews’ is still being made and in the post-war years it will be made again and again.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/Nuremberg/Thomas_Dodd_ltr.html

Right mr Dodd. That charge will indeed be made… because that is the truth, that’s why. And no Nuremberg scam of yours will in the long run hide that fact that after 1933, exactly as Mel Gibson said it was, every US war was a war instigated by the [cough] “neocons” (including entry US in WW1… for Balfour/Palestine).

http://tinyurl.com/z3qqcgm

Perhaps, with the current “German-British president” in place, a president who is open about and proud of his roots, these things can be said and we Euro’s in Europe and America can finally get our act together and come to terms with history… in order to seriously begin to organize our mutual defense against those who want to wipe us Euro’s out.

#DrainTheSwamp

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 3:53 am 



Oops, it was Thomas Dodd, not his son Christopher.

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 4:15 am 



https://magazin.spiegel.de/SP/2017/4/149131037/index.html

Anne Applebaum, prominent member of the US deep state, or rather globalist deep state maffia, keeps trying to drive a wedge between US/EU and Russia by falsely claiming that Russia could invade “parts of Eastern Europe” again.

That’s how they operate: divide and conquer.

Nothing would suit her interests more than organizing a war in Europe against Russia and let all these whities kill each other.

http://tinyurl.com/gte5pn7

For Anne, the Trump presidency is a disaster. It is.ROFL.

He won with the aid of a massive Russian intelligence operation, and by propagating lies about Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Liar. These massive Trump gatherings alone proved that the “real Americans” had enough of your vision of America, an America that only serves your interests. America as a precursor of a world without borders, identity, nations… a world owned by your tribe. “Rural America” scored a temporary victory, let’s ensure that the victory is permanent. Not in the least in the interest of Europe. Europe has always looked straight through your intentions; Russians (illiterate serfs of the Czar in 1917) and Americans (nation of immigrants with weak sense of ethnic identity) had to go through a painful learning process first.

Why don’t you go to Israel, Anne, and set up shop in a Kibbutz. We don’t need your self-serving “intellectualism”.

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 4:44 am 



http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/anne-applebaum-interview-about-president-donald-trump-a-1130988.html

full interview with Anne Applebaum, the smart face of the globalist left:

Ironically, yes: Steve Bannon, the White House chief strategist, appears to imagine an alliance between Trump, Le Pen, Geert Wilders and Nigel Farage. Call it the populist international, a fraternal association of the nationalist right, binding people who want borders, across borders.

Exactly right, that’s what the western right wants.

I wrote an article a year and a half ago arguing that we may be reaching the end of the liberal world order. At that time that idea seemed to many people a little hysterical. It seems less hysterical now. We should be worried.

Home run. Liberal order is out, identitarian multi-polar world of “birds of a feather” is next. Soros out, Huntington in.

Trump is extremely bellicose, as we know, and the Russians have made no bones about the fact that they have nuclear weapons. They talk about them now all the time.

Yeah sure. Your neocons spoke about a winnable nuclear war all the time. If Putin and Trump are buddies, the risk of a nuke war isn’t that big, wouldn’t you not agree?

Btw, nukes are your invention.

http://tinyurl.com/jdmofga

I don’t want to predict calamity. But I am afraid of a new Russian occupation of parts of Eastern Europe.

Completely ridiculous. Russia wants to be part of Europe. It doesn’t have the power nor the will to conquer it. McCain is not that wrong in mockingly portraying that Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country. It is just that Russia has very smart and determined leadership and a national-orthodox vision for Russia. I wouldn’t be surprised if Putin would end his political life as the new Czar.

peakyeast on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 5:49 am 



Trump just needs to reduce the wage for military service to: Shelter and meal…

And mandatory military service if one hasnt found a job within 1 year or in prison. .. No delete the prisoners they are cheap reliable labor.

Problems solved – useless feeders and breeders and violent/stupid (also called patriots) people weeded out and ready for the meat-grinder.

some sarcasm may be present or not…

Davy on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 7:31 am 



Trump haters are shocked because they think there are answers. They think their liberals have answers and the last 8 years were answers. These complainers are just like the people they are criticizing. These failures are the reason Trump is now in power. Their Obama and his establishment were a failure. This is true domestically and internationally. You liberals can’t get that through your dense skulls. Trump will fail but in my opinion his failures may bring some benefit in failure. Maybe a smaller world because the excesses of globalism are slowed. He may have taken WWIII off the table. The neoliberals and neoconservative cabal were so happy to peruse war with Russia. Hillary was going to get us killed. Obama was working on it. What I am saying is called making the best of a failure that is Trump. Accepting failure that is Trump and getting your shit together with a real alternative.

The neoliberal and neoconservative establishment were all complicit in this corruption of power and disregard for why they were given the rights to govern. You liberals allowed a candidate like Hillary that was likely the most corrupt ever to attempt the presidency. This corruption went to the very core of our society with the media, the elite, and big business. It was pay to play and it was about a public figure with a very different private persona. Most on this board don’t love Trump. We are honest about the alternatives and the whiners are not. The whiners fail to see the failures. They fail to accept defeat from those failures.

Who friggen cares if he is a “trust funder”. Everyone in DC including the beloved liberal leaders are part of the same elite class that are “trust funders”. The whiners are just angry and blinded from seeing reality. Whiners, you lost man. Your leadership was and is a failure. I suggest you and your pissed off movement of losers go back to the drawing board and come up with a legitimate alternative. Midterms are just months away. Get your shit together and quit your whining. I am getting so sick of the snowflaky whining. The entitlements and the fake political correctness all wrapped up in corruption and delusions of a failed American dream. Your liberals killed this dream just like the neocons did when they were in power. Both movements are and were a failure. Trump resulted from your failure and you deserve him because of it.

Trump is what results from failure. Get your shit together and offer and alternative. The whining is getting old. This is all the young today can do is whine. Blame and complain is alive and well without a solution. You know what that equals? Blame and complain without a solution is just more of the same failure. It is circular and will end in the same way. Trump will fail no doubt. You don’t make something great that is already a failure. I would love for there to be a new force of change who realistically faces the existential decline and decay ahead. I am all for an alternative to Trump. The problem is there are no realistic alternatives. At least Trump is a force of destructive change for a failed system. That is a success in failure in my book but you whiners can’t hear that because you can’t understand failure. If you did we would not have had a failure like Obama. Hillary was the most horrible candidate of corruption ever put forward. She was more of the same failure.

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 7:34 am 



Inauguration day, the pictures:

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/donald-trump-die-ersten-stunden-als-praesident-fotostrecke-144443.html

Trump speaker says that meeting with Putin will not happen too soon, not in the coming months.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump-wladimir-putin-grundsaetzlich-zu-treffen-bereit-a-1131066.html

“Now worries, he only wants to deal”
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump-der-us-praesident-stellt-europa-eine-falle-kommentar-a-1131052.html

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 7:41 am 



“Erdoganistan”

Meanwhile in Western-ally Turkey, Erdogan is only one referendum away from dictatorship:

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/tuerkei-erdogan-der-staat-das-bin-ich-a-1131074.html

Islam and democracy, hahahaha.

For the hakhbars, democracy, that’s for sissies and a clear sign of lack of resolve of its leaders.

Modernity and liberalism are sinking away in the waves of history. The future, that’s for Tradition, if necessary from the 7th century. And the West will soon have a distinct 19th century quality about it itself.

http://tinyurl.com/zxwdfgp
Nice Spiegel dynamic cover.

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 9:55 am 



The timing could not have been better: jubilant Euro-populists/nationalists celebrating the Trump inauguration and sense that their time is coming. Congress today in Koblenz/Germany with Marine le Pen, Frauke Petry, Geert Wilders and others:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTEpgWBXxhM

In a couple of years, the West will have underwent a metamorphosis, comparable to the one that occurred in Eastern Europe, after 1989.

The 20th century was the century of leftist globalism, thanks to the victory of those over nationalism:

http://tinyurl.com/hxx7v6a

The 20th century is over.

Boat on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 10:30 am 



greggiet,

Of course Trump is the prez you idiot. I am not anti Trump like I was not anti Hillary. Neither was a good option but the only ones on the ballet. The black prez did a much better job than his predecessor GW but both were underwhelming to say the least.
There are some things I like about Trump or at least the idea of Trump. He may put Americans above multinational corporations and control their spending. If he slows or stops immigration, a plus. Opening federal lands to drilling would be a plus.
My main pet issue is the deficit and the debt. Trump will be a failure and only exacerbate a huge problem. Going back 5 presidents only on Clintons watch was there an honest attempt to live within a budget.

Davy on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 10:55 am 



Boat, Clinton live within budget?lol. Only becuase he was blessed with a unique crossing point of several trends. That condition was not his making it was just his blessing to be part of. In any case he initiated spending and debt by gutting financial rules and initiating a trend of bubble economics that finally culminated in the 08 crisis.

peakyeast on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 11:03 am 



@Boat: As I understand it the debt is not so much the presidents fault as it is the fault of the ones who votes on the budget (and its deficit) and let it pass..

Please explain to me why it is the president that is at fault when it comes to the budget?

GregT on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 11:16 am 



“The black prez did a much better job than his predecessor GW but both were underwhelming to say the least.”

Because both of them were beholden to the deep state Boat. By now you should know who they are, but given your track record of absolute stupidity, I highly doubt it. Trump paid for his own campaign, and is not owned by anybody. Whether Trump is the real deal or not remains to be seen, but at this conjecture, it certainly appears that he is. The deficit, and the debt, are the direct result of the fiat monetary system owned by the same people that have owned every single US president since JFK, and many before him. If Trump has any hope in hell of making America great again, he needs to end the fed, and allow the American people to coin their own currency as laid forth in the constitution.

GregT on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 11:51 am 



“No, I won’t “shut the fuck up”, but continue to raise holy hell. Too bad facts are the source of such inconvenient truths for you.”

Which facts would those be Derhun? The ‘facts’ that you are so quick to regurgitate, that have been spoon fed to you by the MSM?

It’s no wonder why your country is in such serious trouble. A democracy will only ever work with a well informed populous, and you are a prime example of the not well informed.

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 12:05 pm 



Trump paid for his own campaign, and is not owned by anybody.

Boat, it is Clog University Time. The University that comes without college debt.

Homework for today. First read this article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1234154/Trump-Repub-Jewish-Coalition-don-t-want-money.html

Next try to figure out why Trump said to the Republican Jewish Coalition that he didn’t need their money.

What does that mean?

Does that mean that every Republican candidate who is not a billionaire like Trump DOES need the RJC money?

a. Yes
b. No

Next question… does a Republican candidate need the money of the Southern Baptist Republican Committee?

Does the the Southern Baptist Republican Committee exist in the first place?

a. Yes
b. No

How about the Chinese Republican Committee?
The Islamic Republican Committee?

What does it mean to get money from someone?

Say boat, that you have a Hamburger flipping job at MacDonald’s. That’s quite conceivable, isn’t it. Is it possible to at the same time flip Hamburgers at Burger King, while being paid by MacDonald’s?

a. Yes
b. No

So what does it mean when Trump says that he doesn’t need somebodies money?

a. he doesn’t need to dance to the tune of RJC
b. he will get a free holiday to Israel
c. It doesn’t mean anything at all

Apneaman on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 12:13 pm 



Clogo, why not just catch a flight to DC, go to the white house and suck Trumps cock and get it over with? You’re like a teenage girl at an Elvis concert.

Apneaman on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 12:17 pm 



Trump Calms Nerves Before Inaugural Address By Reminding Himself He’s The Only Person Who Actually Exists

http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-calms-nerves-inaugural-address-reminding-him-55095

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 12:18 pm 



Friday, why don’t you organize a revival of the North-American Communist Party, together with Fuss.

http://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-young-pioneer-ussr-live-223896.jpg

At least we continental Europeans will know where to shoot during the Great Unraveling, after Trump.

Cloggie on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 12:25 pm 



Fuss & Friday:

https://twitter.com/Etymology01/status/822200437910609920

Boat on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 12:26 pm 



Yeast,

Go to whitehouse.gov. Trump says the military needs strengthened. The air force has a budget of over 160 billion. Over double than the entire Russian military. Trump wants to increase spending. The US navy is around 260 billion per year. This is more than the Chinese and Russians spend on their militaries combined. Trump thinks we need more spending. This is just one small example of how presidents set spending patterns. He ran on that issue and won. He did not run on the 100’s of billion paid out on interest for the debt per year, the result of overspending. As interests rates rise and the deficit jumps ever higher we will eventually get a candidate who looks towards fiscal responsibility. He will get at least one vote. Lol

GregT on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 12:29 pm 



“He did not run on the 100’s of billion paid out on interest for the debt per year, the result of overspending.”

Wrong again kevin. There is no good reason why there should be any interest owed, on fiat money that is created out of thin air. You’re exposing your level of stupidity again.

Boat on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 12:37 pm 



PS,

Trumps military vision also includes a new state of the air missile defense system. So in conclusion Trump wants more planes more ships and more missiles. I am sure this will be welcome news to ISIS who Trump claims needs be taken out. Sounds like BAU to me.

GregT on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 12:39 pm 



“Sounds like BAU to me.”

Not only are you dumb, blind, and stupid kevin, you are obviously deaf as well.

Apneaman on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 12:45 pm 



clogqueer, you know most boys grow out of their hero worship if and when they become men. They may still admire their for a particular skill or accomplishment or two, but to see such adolescent, homo erotic Trump idolization is both disgusting and pathetic. Only those stuck in adolescence fawn over and bow and scrape ….. to anyone. Of course what else should we expect from the Dutch famine baby who was deprived of proper nutrition by mommy & daddy’s Nazi over lords? The number of physical and psychological disorders the hunger babies had to deal with for their entire lives is well documented in the medical literature. Normally, I would have a bit of empathy for someone who had that dropped on them through no fault of their own, but you are such a fucking creep and weasel that you don’t rate any. You know, people could tell me to fuck off all day and it’s not that big of a deal, but the kind of people I cannot stand are lying, game playing word and fact twisting shit stains like you.

Davy on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 1:00 pm 



The status quo (BAU) is reality. Without it growing and healthy we are in trouble and heading for failure. It is in systematic decline and this is why we are here every day talking about unpleasant issues. Trump is not going to change the status quo much on some levels. What he is going to do is disrupt the establishment that is taking the status quo in dangerous directions. He is going to hinder and slow up the status quo wealth transfer. He is going to do this through nationalism with managed trade and controlled borders. He is going to cause destructive change by disrupting a trend that we call globalism.

His inaugural speech said as much. Look how the neoliberals in Europe reacted. They said it wasn’t a speech it was a declaration of war. It was a harsh speech without the usual uplifting tone. He sprinkled some of that in but on the whole it was a dark speech about a country that has been gutted by a corrupt establishment. It really goes further than that it is about a global system that has gutted a world where the rich have gotten richer and poor poorer.

Trump will succeed in failure. That is the best you can do in this day and age. You cannot expect anyone to succeed without failure anymore. It becomes more of a matter of which successes are less failure in a general atmosphere of failure. I like to refer back to the eastern front in WWII where the Germans won many tactical battles while still losing the war. Once the Germans where stopped at the gates of Moscow and winter approached the war was decided. The rest was success in failure until final failure.

Davy on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 1:15 pm 



Here is the epitome of the hypocrisy of the neoliberal snowflaky America. Disgusting!

“America’s Real ‘Division’ (Summarized In 100 Seconds)”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-21/americas-real-division-summarized-100-seconds

“According to the mainstream media, Trump’s a divisive fascist; Trump supporters are violent, misogynist bigots; but anti-Trump ‘protestors’ are saving America from its racist self, and “love trumps hate.” Watch the following 100 seconds and decide for yourself…”

{Watch video}

“A Trump supporter puts out a fire started by others, and calls for peace… Is swiftly punched in the face by anti-Trump ‘protesters’.”

peakyeast on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 1:58 pm 



@Boat: I understand your argument. But that one wants to spend more on one item – is not the same as saying there should be fiscal irresponsibility. That is the decision of those who put the actual “plan” and “numbers” together and votes it through.

GregT on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 2:41 pm 



Given the rather large contribution by the MIC to the overall US economy, it wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense to simply shut it down. Now would it?

It would appear, at least, that Trump has decided that national defence, is better than national offence, and if current indications are of any relevance, the biggest threat to national security is from the brain dead American populous themselves, rather than from the made in USA islamic fundamentalist militarism. If the people continue down the path of destruction of their own homeland that they are currently on, expect martial law.

Apneaman on Sat, 21st Jan 2017 4:55 pm 



Who better to get advice from on national “defense” than a mercenary.

NOTORIOUS MERCENARY ERIK PRINCE IS ADVISING TRUMP FROM THE SHADOWS

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/17/notorious-mercenary-erik-prince-is-advising-trump-from-the-shadows/

Mercenaries are good. Good for putting down insurgencies and protests from regular folks.

Like environmentalists who have the gall to even cause so much as an all but meaningless hiccup to the Cancer.

Cops At Standing Rock Now Using Missile System?

http://www.anonews.co/dapl-missile-system/

I guess I’m the only one around here who has noticed how emboldened the new cancer crew has become since Cheeto got elected.

Maybe big daddy Cheeto will do his best to halt the excessive aggression towards Russia seeing how it appears they are so busy getting ready to go to war on anyone who opposes them within the US. Y’all will have to forgive Cheeto for gutting those few remaining fragments of the US constitution. He can’t help it and besides, bombing the village to save it is as American as apple pie.