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It isn’t just that Donald Trump routinely thumbs his nose at the establishment, insults media figures he sees as unfair and bucks conventional wisdom.
It is that President-elect Trump is defying the will of the deep state, military industrial complex base of ultimate power in the United States. That is why he is treading dangerous waters, and risks the fate of JFK.
Trump publicly dissed the intelligence community assessments on Russian hacking; they retaliated with a made up dossier about the alleged Trump-Putin ‘golden shower’ episode.
Russians have compromising footage of Donald Trump paying prostitutes to piss on a bed #GoldenShowerGatehttps://t.co/AdQGhE2y06
— Loco Goose (@CrazyGoose) January 11, 2017
While it may be a silly falsehood, it may also be serving as a final warning that they get to script reality, not him.
Perhaps they want Trump to feel blackmailed and controlled by alluding to fake dirt, while reminding him of the real dirt they hold on his activities (whatever it may be).
Insulting the credibility of the intelligence community in a public way – as the man elected to the highest office in the land – is liable to ruffle a few feathers, and it could provoke a serious response.
Trump knows the power of the people he is taunting, but he may not be aware of where the line is between play in political rhetoric and actually irritating and setting off those who control policy.
There is plenty of Trump misbehavior that can be simply written off, or trivialized, but cutting into the war and statecraft narrative of the shadow government steering this deep state is a deviation too far.
It is one thing to play captain, but another to imagine that you steer the ship. They are happy for Trump to take all the prestige and privileges of the office; but not for him to cut into the big business of foreign conflict, the undercurrent of all American affairs, the dealings in death, drugs, oil and weapons, and the control of people through a manipulation of these affairs.
If President Trump takes his rogue populism too far, he will suffer the wrath of the same people who took out Kennedy… there are some things that are not tolerated by those who are really in charge.
And now leaders in the Senate are warning President-elect Trump about the stupidity of going against the national-security establishment.
In a truly remarkable bit of honesty and candor regarding the U.S. national-security establishment, new Senate minority leader Charles Schumer has accused President-elect Trump of “being really dumb.”… for taking on the CIA and questioning its conclusions regarding Russia.
“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you…. He’s being really dumb to do this.”
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No president since John F. Kennedy has dared to take on the CIA or the rest of the national security establishment […] They knew that if they opposed the national-security establishment at a fundamental level, they would be subjected to retaliatory measures.
Kennedy… After the Bay of Pigs, he vowed to tear the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them to the winds. He also fired CIA Director Allen Dulles, who, in a rather unusual twist of fate, would later be appointed to the Warren Commission to investigate Kennedy’s murder.
Kennedy’s antipathy toward the CIA gradually extended to what President Eisenhower had termed the military-industrial complex, especially when it proposed Operation Northwoods, which called for fraudulent terrorist attacks to serve as a pretext for invading Cuba, and when it suggested that Kennedy initiate a surprise nuclear attack on the Soviet Union.
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Worst of all, from the standpoint of the national-security establishment, [Kennedy] initiated secret personal negotiations with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev and Cuban leader Fidel Castro, both of whom, by this time, were on the same page as Kennedy.
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Kennedy was fully aware of the danger he faced by taking on such a formidable enemy.
And to the extent that President Kennedy consciously stood up to the system, he paid the price for his attempt at independent wielding of power from the Oval Office.
It is a shuddering thought. A sharp lesson in history that must not be misinterpreted.
The implications for Trump are quite clear. If his refusal to take intelligence briefings, or follow CIA advice is serious, then serious consequences will follow. If Trump is serious about peace with Putin when they insist on war, there will be a problem.
There are several powers behind the throne that have wanted to ensure that presidents don’t let the power go to their head, or try to change course from the carefully arranged crisis-reaction-solution paradigm.
True peace is not good for military industrial complex business; true peace, without the persistence of grave threats, and plenty of sparks of chaos to back it up, cannot be tolerated.
As things have progressed today, making friendly with Putin, and calling off the war with Russia may simply be impermissible. If Trump is attempting to negotiate his own peace – and sing along with Frank Sinatra’s “My Way” at the inauguration, then he is in for a very rude awakening.
If, on the other hand, he is the Trump card being played by this very same establishment, then things may develop according to the same ultimate objectives, albeit through a ‘wild card’ path styled after the ego of President Trump.
With Goldman Sachs and neocon advisors filling up his administration, Trump may be simply nudged in the right direction. But the intelligence community is not willing to take many chances – and there are clearly contingencies in place.
As SHTF has previously reported, the continuity of government “Doomsday” command-and-control planes were brought out after the election as a public show of power to Trump and the American people. The shadow government is real, and for now, maintains dominance.
“Mysterious” plane circling over Denver was “just” an E-6B Mercury “doomsday” plane https://t.co/SqJlBkdIqg pic.twitter.com/oE0BBWrhFL
— The Aviationist (@TheAviationist) November 17, 2016
Former congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul warned of the shadow government taking control of President Trump’s administration before it was even formed:
You know, we look at the president, we look at what he said, we look at what he might do, and we look at his advisors, but quite frankly, there is an outside source, which we refer to as a deep state or a shadow government. There is a lot of influence by people that are actually more powerful than our government itself, our president and on up. I mean, you take for instance how our government gets involved in elections around the world, whether it’s in the Middle East or Ukraine.
Trump is reportedly retaining his own private security, bucking the protocol of Secret Service detail… and this clearly a sign that he and his team have thought through security issues and the possibility of an inside job.
This is prudent, but these deep state guys have access throughout the system at every level. They are anywhere, and everywhere. Probably someone that Trump trusts. There are certainly many threats.
For the sake of the stability of this country, and President-elect Trump’s own life, let us hope that they stay several steps ahead of anyone who might want to do him harm.
This is eerie, but real.
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On a personal level, it seems wise to prepare for the possibility of widespread unrest due to political instability.
Tread carefully at the scene of the inauguration, and any high profile political gatherings or demonstrations.
Riots at the inauguration, or in cities throughout the country are possible, maybe even likely, as is an attempted assassination. Even if this scenario is a long shot, and taboo to even discuss, the role of the CIA in past coups, revolutions and uprisings is enough to warrant taking precautions.
There is an element of chaos present during this unprecedented transfer of power to the 45th president, and a wounded animal in the defensive-attack posture.
If you are at a protest, either as a participant, or as an observer, remain aware of the larger actions of the crowd, identify potential provocateurs and stay away from points of potential violence. Police could use anti-riot gear and spray the crowd, fire rubber bullet, use microwave heating or auditory devices, make mass arrests, or block off large portions of the city.
If anything significant happens, use any available phone or camera to film it, but be prepared for confiscation or technologies to wipe phones. An EMF shielded bag could block this; live stream or upload instantly to as many video platforms as possible, but they have been known to jam cell phone signals at mass gatherings and demonstrations. Make copies and store a physical copy, and several back-ups.
If you are at home, do not wait for the all clear signal from the authorities, shelter in place and prepare to ride out a storm, if something sensational or deadly takes place and panic spreads. Do not trust the media; and try to take notice if a coup has taken place, and constitutional authority subverted.
Read more:
“Beware of the Shadow Government”: Ron Paul Advises President-Elect
Is This The Coup In America? “U.S. Troops On Russian Border” To Start War Before Inauguration
Why Was A Mysterious Navy Plane Conducting “Secret Electronic Command/Control Drill” Over Denver?
The “Dead List”: Who The Secret Government Plans to Target Next
Continuity Preppers: FEMA, DHS In “Secret Orgy of Preparedness” at Secret Underground Mountain Bunker
Author: Mac Slavo
Views: Read by 23,825 people
Date: January 13th, 2017
Website: www.SHTFplan.com
108 Comments on "Will The CIA Assassinate Trump? Ron Paul Warns Of “More Powerful, Shadow Government”"
JuanP on Thu, 19th Jan 2017 9:06 pm
Long live President Trump! I intend to ignore the inauguration just like I have always ignored all political events since I was born. I will be gardening and farming full time for the foreseeable future and no US president will stop me. When things get too bad in the USA I will go back home; it is only a matter of when.
penury on Thu, 19th Jan 2017 9:39 pm
The hyperbole and hysteria being spread by mostly the Dems, Soros and the like minded stupids appears to have infected a lot of people. I worry that it might get out of hand.
makati1 on Thu, 19th Jan 2017 9:57 pm
Penury, maybe it would be better if it did “get out of hand”. It will take a 4×4 across the head of most Americans to wake them up. A good dose of an open Police State may be the one needed. A huge riot in DC would rattle around the world and expose America for what it is, a 3rd world banana republic, not a 1st world democracy.
Apneaman on Thu, 19th Jan 2017 10:40 pm
Hey owner guys, I like the new article attribution at the bottom. I’ve never seen one so detailed. Very nice. I wonder if by threatening legal action, I can get you to fix that line running across the page issue?
Hey, I think Ron set a record for his 1000th heavy duty prediction and that’s just this week.
Go Speed Racer on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 12:52 am
Hi Makita, I object to calling the USA a banana republic.
It’s true we have all the corruption, gangsters, bad government, swindling and fraud, illiteracy and national debt that is typical of a banana republic,
Unfortunately the USA doesn’t have any banana trees.
Please plant a few hundred banana trees,
before calling the USA a banana republic.
makati1 on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 1:33 am
GSR, the US DOES have banana trees. In fact, my daughter has 4 of them in her back yard in Florida. here are more in Cali, and Hawaii, probably. And the US IS a Republic. Thanks for the chuckle though. ^_^
onlooker on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 2:41 am
Oh yes, that is a given this possibility. Killary was the chose one and Trump has a big mouth and is getting close to Russia, so yes seems like the Establishment has ample reason to wish to off Mr. Trump. Then? Well, then finally we may get our little Revolution.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 3:40 am
I worry that it might get out of hand.
Eventually it will, the question is when.
https://twitter.com/prisonplanet/status/526364195642966016
It is very risky for the deep state/CIA to organize another JFK-style hit, certainly in an interconnected world like today, with hundreds of thousands of Sherlock Holmes’ wannabees around. It is more likely that they are going to “sit him out”, while trying to sabotage him at every opportunity. The reasoning will be that in 4-8 years time the demographic balance will further have deteriorated to the disadvantage of the Euro’s (those who voted Trump in office, “white lash”) and that by then, when Trump leaves the building, the republic will be in the hands of the “deep state” (hi George!) again, this time for ever.
But in the mean time, Putin, Trump and the Euro-right have time for some preparations to ensure that the deep state won’t return.
[part 1]
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 3:40 am
Meanwhile in Germany, it is the twenties/thirties all over again. Rising star Bjoern Hoecke earlier this week in Dresden, protesting against the Islamic flooding of his country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_drMpcGA48M
The downfall of Soros-drone Merkel is next, who is positioning herself as the next Obama and against Trump. The entire German establishment + media has denounced Trump around the clock, not a very smart thing to do. Expect that Trump (and Putin) will humiliate her publicly.
The downfall of the Western empire will be much more painful than what happened in the East 1989-1991.
Here prominent US deep state representative Paul Krugman gloating on Norwegian television over the demise of European America (last minute):
https://www.nrk.no/urix/–amerikansk-politikk-er-galskap-1.11457779
This was before the Trump episode. Krugman correctly identifies “rural America” as a potential stumbling block and no doubt to his horror he has seen his worry materialized.
It is going to be very messy. Everybody has guns. If Merkel will be toppled, the end game will occur in North-America, with Russian and European freelance troops [*] (or perhaps even regular ones) supporting a “constitutionalist uprising”.
[part 2]
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 3:43 am
[*] in the thirties, establishment Anglos fought with the communists in Spain, like Ernest Hemmingway and even George Orwell, the later author of “1984”, who needed to be told by Henry Miller that fighting for communists is not a smart idea. Continental Europeans in contrast have less affinity with communism, have more racial pride and are more inclined to stand up for their own DNA, if necessary in a black shirt. Communism never had a chance in Europe… until Anglos and Soviets combined forces, that is (because both were colonized by the Krugman types). But that’s now all going to be reversed. What happened in Russia after 2000 (“emancipation” from the US deep state), will happen in Europe, at the latest when the US will descend into chaos. The only serious question is: can we keep the Americans-with-an-attitude (hi Alex J. & Richard S.) out of the Soros-Gulag, run by SJW/BLM/Friday-type-goons?
[part 3]
P.S. this silly subdivision in “parts” is necessary because of captcha blocks.
Kathy C on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 4:03 am
Meanwhile the arctic keeps warming and melting with dire consequences for the planet.
http://tinyurl.com/jqojcg3
http://tinyurl.com/jtdzkxk
“Global sea ice extent is falling off the chart”
“In December 2016, it was 6.58°C (11.84°F) warmer from latitude 83°N to the North Pole”
“When also taking into account further elements that could cause warming, a potential warming of 10°C (18°F) could eventuate by the year 2026, i.e. within about nine years from now…”
Soon all this political stuff will be irrelevant. Ma Nature is bigger than Trump, the CIA, the deep state, etc.
But in the meantime “Its a really big show tonight” Popcorn time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNM-vZoaHw
Go Speed Racer on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 6:02 am
Hi Makita, ok you got the banana trees. Then at least you can sell some bananas during the upcoming recession.
USA also has all the mysterious deaths typical of
a banana republic. sHrillary was extra good at this.
Every time some ‘friend’ of theirs said something that
didn’t conform to their corporate policies, the guy
commits suicide! And it’s always at a city park in DC,
the guy suddenly decides he don’t want to live no more.
Perfect Banana Republic stuff brought to you from
The Clintonista Regime.
Kinda refreshing the old
colostomy bag in a pantsuit can move along
to the old folks home
Go Speed Racer on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 6:08 am
Oh yeah, I left out something, commits suicide, and is
found stuffed into the trunk of his black sedan.
Cause you know, if you was friends of the Clintonistas,
And you was so depressed to take your own life,
That’s what you would do is climb into the trunk of
your black sedan, pull the trunk lid down, and blow your
brains out. With a really big 44.
D.C. Police call that a suicide. Back to the donut shop.
Davy on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 6:24 am
I don’t think removal is going to happen. Trump is too strong and his support too widespread. He has powerful insiders to guide and protect him. The secret service and police love the guy. The liberals are making lots of noise but they lack continuity after an election thrashing. They are desperate and increasingly sloppy using fake news, fake polls, and engineered protest. The intelligence services are in retreat. Their power diminished not only by Trump but by failure. Afghanistan and Syria is a huge failure. Putin kicked ass and took names and they are to blame. This election has exposed their corrupt ways and sinister intentions. We somehow knew of them but the election exposed just how bad they are. These threats are the bluster of failure and those types of threats are the weakest. This is not to say as time goes by and things settle down and a well-executed plan won’t surface. Trump has more enemies than any President in recent history. This may be more of a case of his movement and policies losing steam and the Trump craze fading away. Trump has made an impact that is here to stay even if he is removed. His supporters are energized. This is geographically most of the country. The liberal strong points are smallish nodes of population hot spots. They are not to be discounted but they lost their power focus and now in retreat.
Globalism is now in retreat. It should be in retreat because this planet is in retreat. Globalism is now a point that people can refer to as a reason for this. Economics is what really matters. The politics is secondary. Economically we have a low level demand destruction from years of malinvestment and systematic corruption. Globalism is dying slowly and this death will intensify with the false hope of nationalism. We left the world of 20th century nationalism decades ago. We are not going to get back there whole. Huge cost will be involved returning to that earlier world. Economic activity will drop from leaving globalism but population is rising with expectations of affluence increasing. This is a combination for trouble and that is what is ahead.
Maybe Trump will make peace with Putin. Maybe he can come to an understanding with China. Trade walls and people walls will go up and before you know it everyone is getting used to a more managed world of nationalism. In the meantime trade drops, climate change intensifies, resource depletion ticks on all converging in a deflating world. I used to think collapse was around the corner but today I feel we may just be on a slippery slope that unfolds over several years. Repression and management of global money flows may dampen financial collapse but ensure they will fail eventually. Climate change may be going abrupt but its harshest effects may be 20 years away. Peak oil is alive and well but in a world of slow demand destruction and alternative energy we may see its dangerous effects unfold over years without destroying us quickly. We will never recover from all this so status quo progress is mirage. We are falling apart but maybe not as quickly as many of us thought. This is not to say an event might not cascade into a failure and collapse but the likelihood is for slow unwind in decay and decline.
Trump is part of this process. He will talk about making America great again but what he will end up doing is making America less. Making America less in not a bad thing for the world. We all know this here and why. America may be heading for increased isolation. We may see an acquiescence to the realities of a multipolar world economically and politically. We are in profound change and Trump is part of this. If Trump is removed this is not going to change. This movement is bigger than Trump. These kind of changes once put in motion cannot be reversed. These are not only American but now that America is embracing them rapid change can be expected.
Davy on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 6:57 am
Clog, your grand vision of a powerful European army to replace NATO is knocking against the brick wall of reality. Europe is likely not going to pay for it. They are already coming up short with NATO. Europe is broke and looking to build out a new energy system and now a new army. I don’t see it happening. The best way to test reality is cost. Cost wins across the board when it comes to reality. All the technology and intentions in the world cannot overcome it.
“Are NATO Members Paying Their Fair Share? (Spoiler Alert: No!)”
http://tinyurl.com/j6x7ul4
“To be sure, even in Europe’s “new strategic reality” in which NATO guarantees are no longer unconditional, some defense budgets will likely fall short, said Jan Techau, head of the Richard C. Holbrooke Forum at the American Academy in Berlin. “The Europeans will have to do something,” he said. “But I have my doubts that we’ll get across-the-board 2 percent spending.”
onlooker on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:19 am
Clog, what Mak predicts about the US is very similar to what will likely be Europe’s fate. You Europeans have every bit as much the sense of entitlement than Americans have. Also, you got that little problem of Migration coming at you from all sides, how much spending will that entail. Yes, you are stuck in past ways of thinking. This ship is going to go down fast once a certain threshold is reached. Better hope you guys in Europe have created your Wall once that happens..
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:27 am
@Davy – a European army has until now always been blocked by the UK. But they maneuvered themselves are out and every EU bureaucrat is now pushing/salivating to finally make it happen:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/european-parliament-nato-backs-plans-create-defence-union-a7432706.html
Europe was never really pushed by the US to increase defense spending; the US was satisfied holding the keys to dominance.
Global defense spending:
US 50%
EU 25%
Russia 12%
China 12%
How about the US spending less? If the US accepts the EU and Russia as partners rather than vassals/wannabee vassal, the US can easily afford that. If the US steps back from hegemony/exceptionalism and draw a line with China at Hawaii rather than the Philippines, what is so bad about that?
Europe broke? What does that mean? Banking system is shaky, that I admit. If things go wrong they will be nationalized and bail-ins applied. But government finance, trade balance, unemployment, aren’t really that bad (with some exceptions).
Davy on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:43 am
Clog, you do agree we are in a finite world right? You do realize Europe is already into massive easing. More ball-ins and nationalizations how much more is possible? Government finance, growth, and unemployment are horrible. I am not saying this is unique to Europe and it is only Europe that is in decline. The same thing is happening elsewhere especially in the US and China. What I am doing is throwing cold water on all these grandiose European ideas you have. Europe is in political disintegration at a time it is also in economic drift. Yet, you are talking about grand plans of renewal and strength. I don’t see it at all.
Denial on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 10:49 am
Ugh…All this Trump bandwagon shit is making me sick….does Bannon have a program with all the above characters saying good things about Trump…
Look it does not matter if Trump or Clinton are president….the next president is bound to fail. At 20 trillion dollars debt and rising the U.S is in a lot of trouble…..how do they plan to service this debt with rising interest rates? The Average American does not even have $600 dollars in savings and has massive debt load….I could go on and on about it but I hope the ones here that are not trumpets can understand that…
The deep state does not have to do anything…..they got Trump elected….now Joe six pack is saying well shiiit I guess the system is not fixed If hillary had won they would all be saying the system is fixed…now they sit back and watch the economy fail after so much manipulation by the FED and viola Trump leaves office as the worst president in the last hundred years…they are one step ahead of you Davy….
Denial on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 10:52 am
Cloggie I do agree with you that we should let China have the Philippines and other small Islands in the area….
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 11:00 am
High noon!
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 11:01 am
Good luck mr Trump!
Apneaman on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 11:06 am
Denial, those of weak will and character need heroes like Trump or Obama to cling to. It’s a common feature for a great deal of the humans. Helps sooth their deep seated fears and fulfills a number of emotional needs.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 11:07 am
A small group… wonder who he could mean…
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 11:11 am
There goes the MIC, EU army coming up. And the Wall.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 11:13 am
Chinese comment: WTF!
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 11:30 am
One big slap in the face of the globalist establishment.
GregT on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 1:59 pm
Here’s hoping that President Trump is the real deal, and if he is, all the best in his attempts to give control back to the American people, and to make America Great Again!
joe on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 2:04 pm
http://youtu.be/zYMD_W_r3Fg
Wont be fooled again. If Americans havent learned anything from Vietnam to whats going on in Yemen then they will never learn. Right now ISIS are storming Dier Ez Zor and Obama did nothing except bomb SAA soldiers. Please read/watch Trumps acceptance speech. He mentioned himself he wasnt sure if he would even do 4 years! He is not stupid he knows the danger hes in.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 2:23 pm
Please read/watch Trumps acceptance speech. He mentioned himself he wasnt sure if he would even do 4 years!
Huh?
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/20/transcript-of-president-trumps-inauguration-speech.html
Apneaman on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 3:38 pm
clogO, $5000. That’s the minimum I will except to watch his speech ( it was only $4500 for Obama). Why the fuck do you people listen to those people? Christ, if your lucky you get 75 80 years of living in? Why waste 1 second listening to the bullshitter of the day? The speeches never change. Most adults clue into this fact somewhere around 30 years of age.
Clog, did your Renaissance hero swear on the Jesus cult book? I bet he did. More required bullshitting. Kinda like whispering sweet nothings to some gullible young lady so you can get her panties off, pound her like there’s no tomorrow then move onto her friend.
I think in India the politicians have to swear by the monkey god, Hanuman. They’re all monkey gods and monkey people to me.
joe on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 3:42 pm
Yeah, read it, he says maybe at after two or three maybe 8 years people will be proud to say they did a great job for America. I remember it struck me as odd that he would even mention a term of office shorter than 4 years AT ALL during a victory acceptance speech. So go ahead. If you watch it rather then read it, you can hear just how scared he was because he was realising just what he had done by winning.
Anonymous on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 3:43 pm
LoL, stupid amerikans. Trump can be easily brow-beat into towing the permanent war-states line. It worked amazingly well with obomber. Sure, hollyjewood, the ‘liberal media’ (lol), and Soros protesters are all in full meltdown mode, but what of it? Just more distractions and noise. If anything, I expect the deep-state will hardly miss a beat. They may even learn to harness all the noise generated by ‘the donald’ to keep doing their dirty work (aka BAU).
It would be a like a inverted version of the puppet obomber. Chaotic on the surface, but with the globalist deep state getting away with murder while everyone is focused on ‘the donald’ and his proclamations and escapades.
Guess well know soon enough eh?
joe on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 3:44 pm
Apneaman, people can watch or read anything they want, nuff said on that mate.
Davy on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 3:56 pm
I watched this inauguration. I was impressed at how nationalistic and anti-establishment his speech was. I think Trump is the real deal and we are about to see a hornets nest kicked. He fingered the establishment directly. I think shits going to happen. America won’t be great again but it is going to be different.
joe on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 4:10 pm
Trump is a symptom Davy. America, oil, capitalism, globalisation are all at an inflection point. If you take Bush2s last year plus Obamas 8 you can see that peak oil and the Great Recession plus the failed policies of Obama doing nothing except brow beating the world while drone bombing people and doubling the national debt have forced an inflection point, things are so bad that people have no stake in society so voting for Trump for anyone except the same is the sane choice. I am convinced the Dems should have ran Sanders against Trump because he would have won for the same reasons Trump won, except Sanders would have gotten a more establishment cabinet and not much would have changed. Now who knows. I see why blacks and minorities are upset and bothered, they were told by the Dems and promised by the Dems that Hillary would be a continuation of the black President, and they are so stupid to believe the divisive politics of the left which likes to demonise working class whites and poor whites in order to divide and rule both demographics. The truth is that all lives matter and the rich are raping government and the resources of the world and Obama didnt stop it and blacks stayed poor just the same as under any other President.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 4:27 pm
Trump the bulldozer. In Holland, Germany, Britain… all the media and establishment types here are unable to suppress their resentment. Everybody deplored that the speech was not “healing”, not “inclusive” enough, yuck. They all fear for their own globalist business model, they all fear the populists at home
The change is epic. Trump’s fist, that was almost a declaration of war. White Panter.
This is the revenge of the ordinary people for decades of globalism and cosmopolitanism. For outsourcing, for dedain against the working class. For Detroit. For the Rustbelt. Trump wants to do for America, what Putin did for Russia. They will get along fine, these two. With China not so much: “give me my factories back”.
There is probably not going to be an US assertiveness about the South China Sea, but instead about trade, jobs, finance.
America First instead of globalism.
“It’s the Economy Stupid” 2.0.
joe on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 4:34 pm
Cloggie dont run away with it. Trump will protect Trump, and his billions. Its simple, how many of Trumps friends get to make out big if the factories are built in the US? But hes not some new saviour of the poor, there is only ONE saviour and he was nailed to a cross for his denial of wealthy.
onlooker on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 4:38 pm
Trump’s demagoguery is coming as Joe said because we are at an inflection point. So he smartly tapping into white discontent and addressing it via emotional cues and racist exclusionary rhetoric. Seems like lifeboat ethics is now coming to the fore. I watched a little of it and it was a very patriotic type speech about US first again and again. This is a cue to this country is a white country and foreigners out. Foreigners take jobs away and pose threats. Again, simply appealing to the sense of patriotic pride but also a unrest about the status of this once great nation. Basically doing what smart politicians always do, tap into the prevailing zeitgeist of your political base. He did it well and now he is President. But careful what you wish for as the timing to take power for the Republicans is inauspicious.
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 4:44 pm
Cloggie dont run away with it. Trump will protect Trump, and his billions.
This is not about money, Trump already has his billions. He is 71 already and can’t take his fortune with him in the grave. All what remains is his place in the history books. I think he means what he says and I wish him well.
Apneaman on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 4:53 pm
Joe thanks a lot. Why, I might have went through the rest of my life without ever knowing that amazing piece of knowledge.
Deep.
What’s with the “mate” thing? Are you Australian? My condolences.
Davy on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 5:27 pm
Clog, I agree, this is not about money it is about power and a movement. BIG difference. That said, it is clear he will reward his friends and loyalist. That is how you get power.
joe on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 5:34 pm
Americans are becoming more equal. If things keep going as Obama and Killary wanted America would be equally poor and blacks and whites together would be oppressed under a tide from South America and encroaching Islam and terrorism. This has to stop. Look at Europe, they are finished. Masses of jobless migrants who hate Christians and whoes talents extend to asking for handouts and free socialised medical care…
How many innocents died under Islam’s thundering truck wheels? This HAS to stop.
peakyeast on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 6:08 pm
Congratulations USA on your new president.
They did it again: Keeping the eternal hope of “real” change alive..
What a joke on everybody!
Cloggie on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 6:28 pm
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38684556
The f* lost and he hates it.LMAO
What are you going to do about it, old fart?
Apneaman on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 6:40 pm
Davy, when I was a kid I truly believed that the dollar bill under my pillow came from the tooth fairy. Belief is evidence of nothing except wishful thinking, yet it seems to be a feature of the humans that the more they believe in something the true it is (for them). I guess if your right, that would make Trump singularly unique among rich white men as the first one ever to stop caring about the money . LMAO listening to you guys convince yourselves of these things. Trump must have had the smallest PR budget in history since there appears to millions who are just looking for a reason to believe. I get that. Happens after you get dumped too. So anyway, how do you think Trump and his cancer crew will respond to “pressing issues”? Lets see his immediate response to the single biggest threat to ever face the humans.
Minutes after Trump becomes president, White House website deletes all mention of climate change
https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-deletes-climate-change-from-website-b424fcc25af8#.wtmksg69e
Works for me…..ba hahahahahahahahahahah
makati1 on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 6:46 pm
Peaky, a sick joke at that. The next few years are going to be a very bumpy ride for Americans and a lot of “unexpected” (Black Swan) events, I am sure. And not the good kind.
makati1 on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 6:49 pm
Ap, it is now more “business as usual” in the greed and financial realm. We can only hope that he is smart enough to know that a war with China or Russia is one that he cannot win and would destroy his personal financial empire. He doesn’t give a damn about you or I.
Apneaman on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 6:50 pm
Joe, “Masses of jobless migrants who hate Christians..”
So your saying the’re not wrong about everything?
Boat on Fri, 20th Jan 2017 7:13 pm
mak,
Trump has claimed N Korea will not launch an ICBM missile on his watch. He has claimed he will take out ISIS. Last I heard there in 36 countries. He is going to rebuild the US military that already spends almost 600 million per year. He thinks the US has not been a good enough friend to Israel even though they receive 3.8 billion per year in military aid. Yep I see peace coming. Lol