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When and Why the World Went Wrong
What exactly has gone wrong, and when and why? The open, democratic world order based on egalitarian rights and the rule of law — liberalism, for lack of a better term — is under increasing pressure. The signs, serious and less so, are everywhere.
The trend has now hit so many nations that the explanation has to be global. Social media are frequently cited as a driving force, but I would like to consider an alternative or perhaps complementary possibility for the breakdown of liberalism: As World War II and the Cold War recede in our collective memory, people in the West are simply becoming less cooperative.
Think back to the years during and after World War II. Western leaders created an unprecedented array of multilateral institutions, including NATO, the World Bank, the IMF, the Bretton Woods system, the United Nations, and what later became the World Trade Organization. These institutions found widespread levels of support both at home and abroad, and they persisted.
After the end of the war, there was a general (and correct) sense that international cooperation had been crucial to the Allies’ victory, and that it would be necessary moving forward. World War II affected the lives of so many people, in most Western countries, that this feeling was deep and widespread. Furthermore, the ideas of the “populist right,” which in some ways resembled the now-discredited views of the Axis powers, were not very appealing.
And then the Cold War came, giving these basic cooperative instincts a second lease on life. The Soviet Union and China seemed like dangerous nations with malevolent intentions, and their rise strengthened the cooperative tendencies of the West all the more. In the mid-1970s, “America First” would have seemed like a crazy strategy, and the U.K. was joining what is now called the European Union rather than leaving it. Meanwhile, utterly demonizing one’s domestic political opponents was considered bad form; the real villains were abroad, and some measure of bipartisanship was needed to beat them.
In due time, however, as those who led and fought World War II died and the threat of communism faded, so has the notion of an external enemy. There is no external “ism” — such as communism or fascism — against which liberalism can so readily be defined. China remains a geopolitical issue, but is not seen as a direct threat aside from some parts of Asia and the Pacific.
In other words, it could be that the fractious and increasingly nationalistic politics of today are how things naturally are — and the anomaly is this decades-long period of cooperation and harmony.
This is not exactly reassuring. But if you look at the partisan, controversy-laden, personality-intense, and often stupid American politics of much of the 19th century, it seems plausible. Without the presence of strong external enemies, cooperation breaks down.
There is another explanation for the rise in anti-liberal sentiment: immigration. Through a series of historical accidents, it was kept off the table as a major issue for many decades. The U.S. had choked off immigration in 1920, and at first the liberalization of the 1960s did not have much of a visible impact on the American population. In those early decades after the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, many poor nations were so poor and unfree that it wasn’t easy to leave them.
As for Europe, in-migration was too small to make much of a political impact. For a while in the 1960s and 1970s, the bigger story was emigration, due to high taxes, from countries such as the U.K. and Sweden. The presence of the Iron Curtain also blocked some of the routes and sources that enable some migration to Western Europe today.
In a democratic society where there simply isn’t much immigration, it is much harder for nationalists and populists to use it as an issue. But today much of the West has seen high immigration for 20 years or more, giving nationalist and populist forces a major talking point. Even if most of the population is broadly pro-immigration, perhaps a core of 15 to 20 percent will not be. With that base, a movement of counterreaction can have real political impact.
The implication of all this? It’s as clear as it is depressing: Nationalism and populism aren’t going away anytime soon.
122 Comments on "When and Why the World Went Wrong"
dave thompson on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 2:48 pm
To many people populating a finite planet going after the finite resources. Simple?
Dredd on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 3:03 pm
“The trend has now hit so many nations that the explanation has to be global.”
Well said.
I would use “civilizational” in place of “global” because the problem is not the globe, it is the civilization on the globe.
This is nothing new:
“In the Study Toynbee examined the rise and fall of 26 civilizations in the course of human history, and he concluded that they rose by responding successfully to challenges under the leadership of creative minorities composed of elite leaders. Civilizations declined when their leaders stopped responding creatively, and the civilizations then sank owing to the sins of nationalism, militarism, and the tyranny of a despotic minority. Unlike Spengler in his The Decline of the West, Toynbee did not regard the death of a civilization as inevitable, for it may or may not continue to respond to successive challenges. Unlike Karl Marx, he saw history as shaped by spiritual, not economic forces” …
Even if a billion people know this, they are outnumbered 7-10 to one (How To Identify The Despotic Minority – 2).
Evidence based analysis is not popular, it is only correct.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 4:04 pm
Keep dancing Putin..You are on the deep states shit list..And they always take care of business..They are going to nip this populist movement and make an example out of him..
Cloggie on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 4:40 pm
When and Why the World Went Wrong
“The world went wrong”, well according to Bloomberg and its associates that is, which means good news for the rest of the world.
Keep dancing Putin..You are on the deep states shit list..And they always take care of business..They are going to nip this populist movement and make an example out of him..
Look how angry our local representative millimind of The Tribe is, with foam on the lips, hurling death threats in the direction of the nemesis of the NWO: Putin and Xi.LOL
And since we are living in a Darwinian world, it simply means that millimind is cornered and losing, something his fellow tribal Bloomberg has been admitting for some time now:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-09-27/america-s-new-world-order-is-officially-dead
And then the Cold War came, giving these basic cooperative instincts a second lease on life. The Soviet Union and China seemed like dangerous nations with malevolent intentions
Unbelievable hypocrites! The USSR and to a lesser extent China were the Allies against the Axis. Without them the US would never have won. The US had allied itself to the USSR (de facto since 1933) when the communist crimes had reached a zenith.
WW2 was nothing but a US global coup d’etat, a global power grab, enabled by an immense oil-fueled economy of 29% global GDP for the US and 29+13+11+5=58% global GDP for the Allies, if you add US, USSR, UK and France together. The cornered Axis, cornered from the beginning, had 11+6+5=22%. And when the war was over, the US and USSR organized a show trial to plant the lies with which they could justify their assault.
The intent was to incorporate the entire planet into the US empire. Bloomberg admits it is not going to happen. Fine. The only question remains: how to apply euthanasia to the empire and liquidate it before it can blow up the entire planet.
There is another explanation for the rise in anti-liberal sentiment: immigration.
It is THE major explanation. The attempt was to create a global US empire based on the kosher-minted word “racism”. Americans like Davy, boat, millimind, makati and several others, hurl that acquisition against everybody 24/7 who would prefer to have a world with borders in place, but the word is losing strength. It has been used too often. In fact most normal people are “racist”, meaning they have a preference for their own kind [*]. This sentiment is by no means limited to white people. Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Arabs, blacks, they all have a little fire inside that is burning for their own kind. They know who they are, where Americans, all with an immigrant background, have a weak sense of identity… because they were never enabled to grow one, which takes several centuries.
George Soros his Open Society program is stalling. America is no longer generally seen as a beacon of hope, apart for those from the third world. Even Americans begin to long to live in white society, their society, which should be their birth-right, but that is deprived for them, because the tribe of millimind is too strong and constitutes the backbone of the deep state.
Until they grow a pair.
[*] – Tonight on the Dutch 20:00 news, foreign students have great trouble finding a living space in Holland:
http://www.props.fhj.nl/nieuws/kamer-huren-dutch-only-please/
makati1 on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 6:35 pm
Cloggie, you wander in and out of reality in your long posts. I am not like Davy, MM, et alia. Are you confused?
“White” society is a thing of the past. Long gone. Never to return. Get over it.
The world is being destroyed so it will not matter in the long run what color we are. There are few generations to come. Maybe only one more. All dead before 2100.
makati1 on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 6:39 pm
In other news:
“In spite of American objections, The Philippines is continuing discussions with Russia regarding the purchase of submarines as part of President Rodrigo Duterte’s drive to modernize the Philippine navy….
Duterte also reiterated a previous criticism when he said that the US was selling The Philippines old, under-maintained and sub-par equipment….
“It’s hard for you to say we are friends. We are friends but remember we are friends because you made us a colony years ago. It was not a friendship agreed upon”….
… if The Philippines does purchase the submarines from Russia, the US could very easily sanction Manila….
While the US remains a major trading partner with The Philippines, for the United States, The Philippines has always been more about its strategic location than about its economic potential. This is indeed one of the reasons why recent decades have seen little US interest in developing the civilian economy of The Philippines. The fact of the matter is that the US is content with a poor but politically stable Philippines in order to suit its regional interests which are aimed squarely against China….
Should the US impose sanctions against The Philippines, Duterte is the kind of leader who might just tell the US that it can no longer exercise usage rights over strategic military facilities in The Philippines….
Because Duterte has positioned himself in a position to attach multiple strong economic and military powers to The Philippines, the US risks losing the former colony for generations to come if it overreacts to Duterte’s desire to pursue dialogue with Russia over the submarine deal. In this sense, Duterte has been able to do what few leaders of more powerful countries have been able to get the United States to do – sit up, take notice and act cautiously rather than on impulse.”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/america-needs-the-philippines-more-than-the-philippines-needs-america-duterte-has-made-it-so/5651716
The Philippines is a great place to be now. ^_^
Cloggie on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 6:50 pm
Cloggie, you wander in and out of reality in your long posts. I am not like Davy, MM, et alia. Are you confused?
You used the epithet “racist” against me in the last 24 hours, like the others have done. Who is confused here?
“White” society is a thing of the past. Long gone. Never to return. Get over it.
It isn’t. Not in Eastern Europe, not in Italy, not in Spain, not in Russia.
The white race once existed in India, of all places until its downfall, from where it moved on. To Russia, Europe, America, Australia.
We are definitely living in a period of decline of the white race. We will have to retreat from Australia, parts of North-America. But that doesn’t mean our ultimate downfall. Life contracts, in order to prepare for a next period of expansion. The damage done to us by millimind’s Marxist tribe is immense, but we will recover from that. Imperialism is in our blood. We are builders and discoverers.
The next empire will be in deep space.
onlooker on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 6:59 pm
What a dumbass propaganda piece. Propaganda for Neo-liberalism for the world the West wants people to believe in. It was never a “open, democratic world order based on egalitarian rights and the rule of law “. It is and was a myth. Because we are talking about the entire planet. Are we not? The institutions cited in the article created after WWII are and were deeply undemocratic. They enforce the hegemony of Corporations and the Western brand of Capitalism with the Usury Lending systems as its main driving force and form of exploiting and subjugating whole regions into the Capitalistic system. Nothing egalitarian about that. Then to say nationalism and immigration are different sources of problems is again so limited and inaccurate. It is pure economics. When people cannot live a decent existence where they are, they will migrate. And the nationalism is simply a reaction to the systemic exploitation and looting of countries under the international economic system. Done mostly by rich countries against poor ones. And finally, the author of this article simply ignores the fundamental driver now of all issues which is the overpopulation overshoot of our planetary environment and its degradationa and depletion which affects every sphere of human concern.
onlooker on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 7:04 pm
So the white race will rise from its ashes like the Phoenix and go forth to colonize Space. That must be some powerful stuff you are smoking Clog. And you are a bit confused. The Marxists wanted to defeat the NWO of a world of the rich for the rich by the rich.
makati1 on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 7:06 pm
Spot on, onlooker. Spot on, both comments.
onlooker on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 7:25 pm
Thanks Mak, hope you are doing well in PHIL
Davy on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 7:33 pm
“John McCain, war hero and Arizona senator, dead at 81 after cancer battle”
One less war pig roaming the world.
makati1 on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 7:34 pm
onlooker, I am doing well. All projects are moving forward and the weather has been nice. No typhoons so far this year, which is unusual. They all seem to be forming farther north than usual and heading for Japan. Maybe it is the warming northern ocean? We shall see. Have a great day!
onlooker on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 7:46 pm
Yes, always scary to know that a Monster Typhoon is approaching. Salamat again for the thumbs up on my comments. I got the window open here in upstate NY, but heat wave is set up come in on Monday. Stay well.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 7:56 pm
Peak Saudi Arabia and OPEC 2028
Forecasting OPEC crude oil production using a variant Multicyclic Hubbert Model (Ebrahimi 2015) Journal of Petroleum Science and Engineering
https://www.scribd.com/document/386978468/Forecasting-OPEC-crude-oil-production-using-a-variant-Multicyclic-Hubbert-Model-Ebrahimi-2015-Journal-of-Petroleum-Science-and-Engineering
JuanP on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 8:13 pm
I am so happy John McCain died! He was a cowardly, vengeful, spiteful, resentful, hateful, motherfucking son of a bitch. Millions, if not billions, will be filled with joy by this news. The world is a better place without.
Duncan Idaho on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 8:18 pm
Late stage capitalism was never going to be fun—
makati1 on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 8:38 pm
I wish there really was a hell so there would be a place for McCain to suffer as he has caused millions to suffer. He should have died in that Vietnamese prison camp.
One down. Many to go…
MASTERMIND on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 8:43 pm
RIP John McCain..He was a true maverick and war hero!
MASTERMIND on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 8:44 pm
R.I.P. John McCain, an American hero and patriot, who could also do a pretty mean robot dance
https://twitter.com/consequence/status/1033516259047030784
MASTERMIND on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 8:47 pm
Mak
You served in the military as well..You dodged the draft and war..McCain didn’t..
MASTERMIND on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 8:53 pm
U.S. Warns Russia It Will Hit Assad If He Uses Chemical Arms, Sources Say
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-24/u-s-said-to-warn-russia-it-will-hit-assad-if-chemical-arms-used
WW3 is back on!
HIT EM HARD!
DerHundistLos on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 8:56 pm
dave thompson:
“To many people populating a finite planet going after the finite resources. Simple?”
Yes, the crux of the dilemma in a single sentence.
GregT on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 8:56 pm
It isn’t nice to speak badly about the dead, so I won’t.
Bye John.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 9:07 pm
Infowars host: Hurricane threatening Hawaii has been split in two by energy beam shot from Antarctica
https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/08/24/infowars-host-hurricane-threatening-hawaii-has-been-split-two-energy-beam-shot-antarctica-possibly/221094
GregT on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 9:45 pm
“Infowars host: Hurricane threatening Hawaii has been split in two by energy beam shot from Antarctica”
One more John to go. Hopefully he doesn’t burn out, but simply fades away.
Roger on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 10:04 pm
“In a democratic society where there simply isn’t much immigration, it is much harder for nationalists and populists to use it as an issue. But today much of the West has seen high immigration for 20 years or more, giving nationalist and populist forces a major talking point. Even if most of the population is broadly pro-immigration, perhaps a core of 15 to 20 percent will not be. With that base, a movement of counterreaction can have real political impact.”
Umm, one needs to distinguish between “illegal” and lawful immigration. Huge difference…as Europe is learning.
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MASTERMIND on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 10:06 pm
John McCain poses with his Air Force jet (1965)
https://i.redditmedia.com/1BA0sJsHFUeiV60IwbHTOSr-6gf9ZgUqdVkzId0u6aQ.jpg?w=556&s=b5eba7ab5235ca7b5080e8e3cdc2622d
He was more of a real man than any of the draft dodging boomers on this board..
twocats on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 10:44 pm
mak – i agree – onlooker nailed this article dead to rights. nothing more to see here.
makati1 on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 10:44 pm
MM, McCain was stupid. But he was also likely insane then also. Some like to kill. It seems he is one who does. He should have been shot in Vietnam before he became a Us traitor. Oh, you don’t know about that fact? Do some research, MM and learn real history.
twocats on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 10:46 pm
“one less war pig”
jimminy davy – not that i don’t agree with your statement – but i didn’t think you’d be so hard on an “american hero”. i guess all who claim you are a mindless jingoist might need to reconsider their position.
makati1 on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 10:48 pm
onlooker, Adirondacks region? I have been there several times. Beautiful country. At least it was 20 years ago.
GregT on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 10:56 pm
“He was more of a real man than any of the draft dodging boomers on this board..”
Blindly following the ‘leaders’, and murdering other people, does not constitute a ‘real man’. Quite the opposite. More like a useful idiot.
McCain’s most recent legacy, would be supporting the Nazi’s in Ukraine, and fomenting the ethnic cleansing of the Russian Ukrainian people. Mass murder, plain and simple. I sincerely hope that he gets to meet his God.
makati1 on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 11:03 pm
“McCain, from the first moments of his capture, had behaved as a COLLABORATOR and propaganda tool for his North Vietnamese captors….McCain had engaged in no less than 30, and likely as many as 38 anti-American propaganda broadcasts for Radio Hanoi during the period of his captivity”
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/earlhopperinterview08feb08.shtml
“Presidential pardon from Nixon saves John McCain from treason and collaboration charges according to Rolling Thunder Founder and 3 war veteran, John Holland….”
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/18/trump-right-about-hanoi-john-mccain/
“But we only had their word against his – until now. Now, from the U.S. National Archives comes the proof of their allegations; McCain, by his own words, WAS in fact a traitor who collaborated with the enemy by recording a “Tokyo Rose” statement condemning his own nation by admitting “crimes” against the North Vietnamese people, stating “I, as a U.S. airman, am guilty of crimes against the Vietnamese country and people.”
https://oathkeepers.org/2016/08/breaking-news-john-mccains-1969-tokyo-rose-propaganda-recording-released/
Nuff said.
makati1 on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 11:23 pm
BTW MM, you should go and sign up for the military if you think dodging the government/elite draft into an illegal/immoral war is bad. Serve your country! Be a hero! Go to Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen and do your duty. THEN you might have a right to your comment. Until then, I would not advertise that I was a ‘snowflake’ on here if I were you. “LMAO
MASTERMIND on Sat, 25th Aug 2018 11:54 pm
Mak
Veterans today and oathkeepers? Talk about whack jobs..
You need to learn how to vet your sources better.
makati1 on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 12:52 am
MM, and you need to remember that I was there. Tricky Dick DID pardon McClain. That the truth has been buried by the propagandists government does not change it. Those sources are as reputable as any you can produce. More so as the Vets saw what happened. THEY were in Vietnam listening to the broadcasts. It was big news then. Covered up now.
Where were YOU in the 1960s? Oops! Your mom probably wasn’t even born then. You weren’t even a thought. What you are is thoroughly brainwashed. McCain was a traitor and got pardoned because his daddy and grand daddy served as Us admirals previously. Elite cover up and whitewash. And you want to kill the messenger. LMAO
makati1 on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 12:54 am
MM, have you gone to sign up yet? Why don’t YOU serve the country you defend so strenuously? All mouth and no spine? LOL
JR on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 1:02 am
This was a really terrible article, written by a 2nd grader perhaps? It missed the headline by a country mile.
Oh – and all the McCain crap being posted here in the comments has been debunked.
Neither oathkeepers or veterans today are credible.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/veterans-today/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-sen-john-mccain-a-hanoi-hilton-songbird/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/john-mccain-war-crimes/
I see that there are still idiots posting on this site.
Cloggie on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 1:05 am
“He was more of a real man than any of the draft dodging boomers on this board..”
Sociopath Millimind loves to market himself as an “anarchist”, in reality he is a neocon, sympathysing with mass murder. On this board there is nobody who more closely represents the intentions of the US empire and its deep state than millimind.
So this pos mccain is dead? Good! He was involved in every imaginable regime change attempt, aimed at adding yet other countries to the empire, including the one in Syria (500,000 killed and counting). He personally met jihadists, paid for to do the dirty work, likely including monsters like al-baghdadi, although imperial rags like the NYT deny that:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/did-john-mccain-meet-with-abu-bakral-baghdadi-the-alleged-head-of-the-islamic-state-isis-isil-daesh/5498177
It is hard to come up with a shabbas-goy, more loyal to the empire than this cancerous growth mccain.
Flabbergasted on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 1:11 am
Energy beams? Are you people fk’n stupid? ANYTHING that spews from that lying site known as “INFOWARS” is disinformation. And in this case – it’s outright fabrication.
You can go to Climate Reanalyzer and prove that this guy is full of shit.
That energy beam must have had a secret nuclear power plant (guarded by aliens of course) to “split” the hurricane (that didn’t split) from thousands of miles away. Or maybe it was being powered by penguins on specially built bicycles.
And Kerry went down to personally thank the aliens and get his anal probe removed…
You people are beyond STUPID. You’re a clear and present danger to yourselves and the nation.
makati1 on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 2:11 am
JR…and where is the proof of your assertions? I didn’t see any reputable refs in your comment. I’ll go with eyewitness reports anyway, not some USMSM propaganda site like you posted.
McCain is and was a traitor plain and simple. I remember those days. Do you?
I’m glad he is dead. I hope it was a painful death. He deserved it.
Cloggie on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 3:54 am
So the white race will rise from its ashes like the Phoenix and go forth to colonize Space. That must be some powerful stuff you are smoking Clog. And you are a bit confused. The Marxists wanted to defeat the NWO of a world of the rich for the rich by the rich.
You are confused onlooker. In present day America the rich ARE the Marxists. Rich oligarch America that is George Soros.
What is a Marxist?
Somebody who opines that the entire world, including all races and religions, should be part of a single power structure, preferably, but not necessarily centered around Washington. And of course that power structure should be owned by the Marxists.
In the USSR of former fame, the Marxists were economic egalitarians. But that economic model of central planning and distributed wealth failed miserably (nobody wants to work for an abstract collective with zero returns) and hence economic Marxism failed.
But the Marxist drive to unite the entire world in a single empire didn’t go under with the demise of the USSR. The Marxists in the US had a second trick in their sleeves and that is racial Marxism/egalitarianism (“cultural Marxism” aka multiculturalism). These new Marxists tolerate (huge) differences in wealth, but what they don’t tolerate is “racism”, that is the universal drive of separate groups to live autonomous, segregated lives. This drive applies to Japanese, Sunni’s, blacks in Zimbabwe and South-Africa, Turks, Kurds, Dutch, Scottish, even Catalans, North-Italians, etc, etc.
But these Marxist oligarchs in the US since the sixties think they can have it all. And if you want to unite the entire world in a single power structure, owned by said oligarchs, you need to reprogram individuals world-wide, using oligarch-owned media, to distribute the egalitarian message. And invite them to the US.
Bloomberg represents pure oligarch interests. What is becoming clear, from this article and earlier ones, is that they begin to give up on global empire. But that doesn’t mean at all they have given up on America. They intend to complete the racial revolution, started in 1965, in that hapless, clueless country, although temporarily put on hold by Trump, and make whitey electoral powerless by creating facts through mass immigration from the third world, all intentional.
The US empire is almost over, the owners have admitted defeat, witnessing this article. But Americans should not cheer too early, because for them the real nightmare is about to begin: living in a neo-USSR as a demonized and despised once-majority. (((millimind))) and his crew are ready to make life miserable for you, using third world import as a weapon against you.
Cloggie on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 4:06 am
A farewell to McCain by George Soros:
https://twitter.com/georgesoros/status/1033536211103756288
“Remembering John McCain, a brave warrior for human rights who stood up against repression and torture.”
#GoodGoy
Don’t expect George to write similar words about Trump, in the unlikely case he would survive him, although he could very well survive him politically.
Davy on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 4:16 am
“i didn’t think you’d be so hard on an “american hero”. i guess all who claim you are a mindless jingoist might need to reconsider their position.”
He may or may not have been a hero at one time. The issue is the man was one of those men that pushed an agenda that could have destroyed the world. It was that agenda that lost the US leadership post USSR demise. He was a rabid neocon and a deep “deep stater” in bed with the Klinton/Obama corruption and its destruction of constitution values. He may have been a hero but he died a corrupt war pig. People like that will get phony funerals of national significance. The reality of these deeds will be brushed over by a fake flag waiving escapade.
MASTERMIND on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 5:31 am
Clogg
If I was you I would mind my own business..There is no deep state and there is no proof that they exist..You are just a low IQ conservative so you have been hoodwinked…Just like the daily mail your favorite fake news source was..
Daily Mail hoodwinked by spoof blog about UKIP flag flying above Ely Cathedral
http://www.cambstimes.co.uk/news/how-the-daily-mail-got-hoodwinked-1-5660809
LMFAO!
JuanP on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 5:32 am
“The Real John McCain”
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/07/jack-kerwick/real-john-mccain/
And they don’t even mention the Ukraine coup. I don’t believe he was a war hero, if I did I might have not said he was cowardly above, but I have absolutely no doubt that he was one of the worst US politicians in living memory and a thoroughly repulsive human being. And I don’t mind insulting the dead with the truth as I see it. I never respected this loser and I am not going to start now because he died. He is part of what went wrong with the world!
Cloggie on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 5:54 am
Clogg
If I was you I would mind my own business..There is no deep state and there is no proof that they exist..You are just a low IQ conservative so you have been hoodwinked…Just like the daily mail your favorite fake news source was..
The overthrow of the US empire and number one threat to the continued existence of my kind and civilization is very well my business.
Every country has a deep state, a few hundred to a few thousand people who call the shots and for whom the electorate is merely a nuisance.
Democracy basically doesn’t exist, other than perhaps in Switzerland, where they have binding referendums or other small countries with multi-party systems.
You deny the existence of the deep state because you do not want us to talk about it. You do not want others to put a yellow star of David onto your beloved neocon deep state, who according to you is preparing a nuclear first strike against Russia, so now all of a sudden the deep state does exist and carries out 9/11 false flags, as you also admitted.
And finally I am NOT a conservative. There is nothing worth “conserving” about this western Marxist shit-hole, that deserves to be destroyed from the ground up.
What is needed is an all-Eurasian coalition to team up and cut out the cancer. And you need a good shower, you stink.
JuanP on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 5:57 am
“Patriot or warmonger?”
https://www.rt.com/usa/436864-patriot-warmonger-mccain-track-record/
I think some people serve their country in the military with bravery and honor and believe in what they are fighting for, and even if I think they are making a mistake I respect them. I don’t think McCain was one of them. He is also partly responsible for ruining millions of lives across the world, in cluding those of honorable US soldiers, sailors, and marines. I consider McCain a traitor because his decisions have helped cause irreparable damage to the USA, and any truly patriotic US citizen will be glad he is gone, IMO.
MASTERMIND on Sun, 26th Aug 2018 6:26 am
Juanp
Stop spreading that Putin propaganda..
McCain was a war hero..And in this country that means something..You imported piece of trash..