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UK to ban most hybrid cars, including Prius, from 2040
Hybrid cars that rely on traditional engines, such as the Toyota Prius, would be banned by 2040 under plans being drawn up by the UK government that would outlaw up to 98 per cent of the vehicles currently on the road.
Vehicles such as the Prius — the best-selling hybrid car in Britain — will no longer be classified as “environmentally friendly” enough to be sold, according to three people briefed on the government’s plans to tackle emissions and air quality.
The exact wording is still under consultation between several government departments, with the transport, environment and business departments all feeding into the final document.
The plans are backed by Michael Gove, environment secretary, and Greg Clark, business secretary. But Chris Grayling, transport secretary, who has Toyota’s UK headquarters in his constituency, has resisted the plans.
A spokesman for the Department for Transport said: “It is categorically untrue that government is planning to ban the sale of hybrid cars in the UK by 2040.”
Last July, the government outlined plans to ban the sale of “conventional” cars from 2040.
The vague wording caused considerable confusion among carmakers, because it was unclear whether cars that use both batteries and traditional engines would be permitted.
The new document aims to clarify the government’s position, and outline how it intends to grow public demand for electric vehicles in the interim years.
Three people involved in the decision said only vehicles that can travel at least 50 miles using only electric power will be permitted under the new rules.
The change in rules will outlaw more than 98 per cent of the vehicles currently sold in Britain and will require manufacturers to switch to vehicles predominantly driven by batteries, though they may have petrol engines for back-up or support.
Plug-in cars that have both large batteries and a traditional engine will also be permitted, although the exact wording is yet to be clarified, according to four people briefed on the government’s plans.
There are several types of hybrid vehicles, from Toyota Prius cars, which use electric power and petrol simultaneously, to plug-in vehicles that can travel for significant distances on battery power alone.
New car sales in Britain have fallen 8.8 per cent so far this year, a decline that has led to hundreds of job cuts at Jaguar Land Rover and Nissan, as well as lost work for hundreds of dealerships.
The industry lays the blame for the decline in part on public confusion over the government’s policy around future vehicle bans.
Mike Hawes, chief executive of industry body the SMMT, said: “We cannot support ambition levels which do not appreciate how industry, the consumer or the market operate and which are based neither on fact nor substance.
“Unrealistic targets and misleading messaging on bans will only undermine our efforts to realise this future, confusing consumers and wreaking havoc on the new car market and the thousands of jobs it supports.”
He added: “Vehicle manufacturers will increasingly offer electrified versions of their vehicles giving consumers ever more choice but industry cannot dictate the pace of change nor levels of consumer demand.
“If government wants the UK to be a global leader in zero emission transport it must provide a world class package of incentives and support to make this a credible policy.”
154 Comments on "UK to ban most hybrid cars, including Prius, from 2040"
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 8:15 am
German Army (leaked) Peak Oil study;
Intra-societal Risks of Peak Oil
Since modern national economies strongly rely on inexpensive fossil raw materials, in
particular oil, peak oil would pose considerable challenges to most countries and societies in the event of an incomplete or insufficient post-fossil transformation process. These challenges could entail restrictions in the mobility systems, interruptions in economic structures as well as an erosion of confidence in state institutions.
A society, however, cannot survive without confidence.
The Importance of Oil
Oil as a Determining Factor of Globalisation
Today approximately 90% of all industrially manufactured products depend on the
availability of oil.13 Oil is not only the source material for producing fuels and lubricants but is also used as hydrocarbon for most organic polymers (plastic materials). It is therefore one of the most important raw materials in the production of many different products such as pharmaceuticals, dyes and textiles. As the source material for various types of fuels, oil is a basic prerequisite for the transportation of large quantities of goods over long distances. Alongside information technology, container ships, trucks and aircraft form the backbone of globalisation.
International division of labour, to which many countries owe their wealth, would not be
possible without today’s volume of cost-efficient goods transport. Oil-based mobility also significantly influences our lifestyle, both regionally and locally. For example, living in suburbs several kilometres away from their workplace would be impossible for many peoplewithout a car. To a certain extent, the classical suburb thus also owes its existence to oil.
http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf
Davy on Sat, 5th May 2018 8:16 am
“Bundeswehr Transformation Centre analyses”
MM, what is the date on this study? I remember reading this before you knew wht peak oil was.
Davy on Sat, 5th May 2018 8:19 am
“You see the world through rose colored glasses. That is because you have had everything handed to you from your parents. If you had to work and earn everything you have ever gotten you wouldn’t be so naive and foolish.”
Translation: I have no clue how to address your comment so I resort to name calling and personal attacks.
Mm, name calling and personal attacks are relevant in self-defense but in your case in this circumstance you need to back up your comments with intelligent discovery and please spare me the copy and paste spam you do.
Davy on Sat, 5th May 2018 8:23 am
“lithium-ion battery pack has about 0.3 MJ/kg and about 0.4 MJ/liter (Chevy VOLT). Gasoline thus has about 100 times the energy density of a lithium-ion battery. …”
So, you said nothing about the application. If you are implementing this technology properly then the dynamics change. I agree with your generalize statement in regards to the generalized postings of nederfantasy.
Davy on Sat, 5th May 2018 8:24 am
“Really? The Norwegian population is moving faster than their government is requiring.”
Norway is the size of a city neder.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 8:59 am
Davy
The study was from 2010 and it didn’t say collapse would come until the medium term. Sorry you don’t usually wait a few years before human civilization collapses to do an study about it. Hubbert’s original study was authored in 1956 but didn’t come true until 1970. I bet there were stupid people like you back then who doubted it.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 9:05 am
Davy
Psychological barriers cause indisputable facts to be blanked out and lead to almost
instinctively refusing to look into this difficult subject in detail. Peak oil, however, is unavoidable.
http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf
So its those psychological barriers that you can’t breach because its too difficult for you to handle. Same with Clogg.. Basically you are not mentally strong enough to handle it…Why you spend so much time on a peak oil blog when you can’t even handle peak oil is a mystery.
Cloggie on Sat, 5th May 2018 9:17 am
“Norway is the size of a city neder.”
You are probably trying to make a very deep point here.
I wonder which one. I suspect you have no idea either.
Boat on Sat, 5th May 2018 9:32 am
Mm
Peak oil over 100 mbpd is almost guaranteed. Even less oil used every day is an overshoot. There is no fear in power to run the world, the problem is and always been the costs of pollution.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 9:36 am
Our entire civilization is made up of an interconnected network of interdependencies that create feedback loops that are nearly impossible for the average person to understand.
http://www.feasta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Trade-Off1.pdf
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 9:43 am
Boat
65 mainstream and peer reviewed scientific references on peak oil.
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa
I wouldn’t ignore the IEA, Saudi’s, HSBC, and former head of the EIA…This isn’t cherry picking, those are the cream of the crop world energy authorities.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 9:48 am
Davy
That German (Leaked) peak oil study;
Historical OECD studies show that only an increase and prosperity can lead to open and tolerant societies. And set backs in economic growth can lead to a rise in nationalistic and extremist policy makers. 2010
http://www.energybulletin.net/sites/default/files/Peak%20Oil_Study%20EN.pdf
They sure nailed the rise of Trump and Brexxit ahead of time.
..Do you really want to bet against them when the oil shortages hit?
Cloggie on Sat, 5th May 2018 9:54 am
Norway is the size of a city neder.
Finland is probably yet another “city” in your book.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Nokia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM
GSM (Global System for Mobile communications) is a standard developed by the European Telecommunications Standards Institute (ETSI) to describe the protocols for second-generation digital cellular networks used by mobile devices such as tablets, first deployed in Finland in December 1991.
The very fact that smart, small and very European countries invent and adopt something fancy first, doesn’t mean that big and slow countries like China, India, America or African countries sooner or later won’t adopt it too:
https://www.africatopsuccess.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/internet-telephone-portable-afrique-connectee.jpg
It won’t be different with e-vehicles.
It is just that Davy and millimind need to develop a little patience here and before they know it, all the technological marvels from Europe will come their way too.
#TrickleDown
Cloggie on Sat, 5th May 2018 9:57 am
Brilliant move by UK to ban cars!
That will help solve unemployment by increasing demand for Ricksaw drivers, Gondola rides in the canals, ect.
Oh, horse breeders should be a growth segment also.
The UK has no intention whatsoever to ban cars.
Only the ones with a fossil drive train.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 10:07 am
Clogg
Norway’s oil demand is increasing despite all of their EV sales..You are always putting the cart in front of the horse.
Cloggie on Sat, 5th May 2018 10:16 am
Norway’s oil demand is increasing despite all of their EV sales..You are always putting the cart in front of the horse.
Sure, but what happened to that peak oil of yours? Aren’t the Norwegians going to be hit by that event as well?
And while you folks will have to fall back on your time-tested horse-culture, the Norwegians will be laughing in their e-vehicles, all the way to the bank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKC8pSFg1Vw
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 10:31 am
Russian police detain opposition leader Navalny during protest
http://www.france24.com/en/20180505-russia-police-detain-navalny-opposition?ref=tw_i
Rise up Russia! Overthrow that dictator ugly Putin!
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 10:54 am
Clogg
You whites in Europe are so bright! Esp the most far right country of Poland. We all know how smart Polish people are…That is why Hitler invaded them first..
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 10:55 am
Clogg
Your populist movement only strength is at the ballot box. because its made up of mostly old crusty angry incel boomers, like Madkat…European youth are dropping religion like flies and swinging to the far left. You will get your ass beat in the streets. Just like Spencer did! lol
The last drop on Sat, 5th May 2018 10:56 am
Sure, Cloggie, didn’t ban cars?! What % are fossil fuel drive trains? DUH!
Cloggie on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:17 am
You whites in Europe are so bright! Esp the most far right country of Poland. We all know how smart Polish people are…That is why Hitler invaded them first..
You (correctly) clearly do not identify yourself as white. Mazzeltov!
Hitler invaded Poland in order to come to the aid of his fellow Germans, forced to live in Versailles Poland, when the Poles had begun an ethnic cleansing campaign of said Germans, after they got encouragement from the Americans to do so, keen as they were to get a war in Europe started. When the Germans invaded, 100,000 Germans had already fled into Germany proper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNEQbdXzZrw
Once you understand this, you understand the statement made privately to US ambassador to London, Joseph Kennedy. Not that he needed any explanation.
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/chamberlain-and-the-forrestal-diaries/
None of the German invasions were aimed at territorial conquest, apart from retaking German lands, stolen in Versailles.
April 1940 Norway: British had begun intercepting iron ore supplies from Narvik.
May 1940 Holland: Dutch government had secretly given up on neutrality one month earlier in London and allowed overpass on Dutch territory to French and British troops.
April 1941 Greece: reaction to British bombing campaign from Greece on Romanian oil fields, the only source of fuel the Germans had.
June 1941 Russia: German intelligence had detected by the end of 1940 that the USSR had quietly begun to mobilize troops from all over the USSR to prepare for the final attack against Germany. It was the only reason why Operation Sealion (invasion Britain) was called off. It was the only reason for the desperate flight to Britain by Rudolf Hess in May, to at least have peace with the British. The Germans preempted a Soviet attack with three weeks. It is the only reason why western Europe stayed out of the hands of the Soviets and got stuck with the lesser American evil.
Once you know that, you understand why this Nuremberg-prick from the prairie Jackson had to conclude that he had no case against the Germans:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/justice-jackson-has-to-admit/
Thanks to a vile little trick, namely declaring all the potential German strong-point “off-topic”, he managed to condemn the Germans anyway in order to justify the Anglo-Soviet colonization of Europe.
Meanwhile Russia is liberated from (((Bolshevism))) and America is further advanced on the road to (((imposed))) suicide than Europe, offering an escape route, for Europe.
Now Eurasia needs the US to attack Iran to complete the liberation from ZOG.
JuanP on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:29 am
Same old, same old! We are all so stuck in our own shit it’s hard to believe. MM, keep posting those old links. All the new people like you should read those old articles to learn the basics. Just understand that most of the regulars here read those reports when they originally came out and a few times again since then. And your belief in forecasts from the EIA, IEA, HSBC, etc. is naive to say the least. All those institutions are propaganda outlets by definition. It is OK to read what they write, but you shouldn’t believe every word. And the people who wrote that shit are not infallible geniuses or anything like that, they are just biased, ignorant people like you and me.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:29 am
Opposition leader Alexei Navalny among hundreds arrested in Russia in anti-Putin protests
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/05/05/opposition-leader-among-hundreds-arrested-russia-anti-putin-protests/583427002/
Boat on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:34 am
Mm
The Saudi in an attempt to sell off a chunk of their oil reserves called in the foremost reputable names in the oil business bto do an audit. They have more reserves than the MSM had reported.
Your previous links about Saudi oil are now null and void. Without this simple understanding of how information works it is with great sadness I must null and void all your links. The world is changing every day but your ideology keep your mind from changing with it.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:35 am
Juanp
All those sources are propaganda now? Each one? And what would they gain for putting out warnings like that? And what about all the independent scholarly papers? Are they some sort of a conspiracy too? LOL And anything is possible when you live in Jesus Christ fantasy land! I know how you wet backs love your Jebus! LOL
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:39 am
Baot
They had 10 billion barrels more than what was stated before. WOW! At 100 million barrels a day world usage that would last ten days.
Saudi Arabia ‘may run out of oil to export by 2030’
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/9523903/Saudis-may-run-out-of-oil-to-export-by-2030.html
The collapse of Saudi Arabia is inevitable
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/collapse-saudi-arabia-inevitable-1895380679
Forecasting OPEC crude oil production using a variant Multicyclic Hubbert Model (Ebrahimi 2015)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0920410515001539
Forecasting OPEC crude oil production using a variant Multicyclic Hubbert Model (Ebrahimi 2015)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0920410515001539
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:41 am
Projection of World Fossil Fuels by Country (Mohr, 2015)
https://www.scribd.com/document/375110317/Projection-of-World-Fossil-Fuels-by-Country-Mohr-2015
And natural gas is peaking and will be shortages as well.
Shell forecasts global Natural Gas supply shortage in mid-2020s
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/26/shell-warns-of-lng-shortage-as-demand-for-liquefied-natural-gas-booms.html
Chevron expects global Natural Gas supply shortage by 2025
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chevron-lng/chevron-expects-lng-supply-shortage-by-2025-idUSKCN1GI2EH
You are not going to like living without your TV everyday Boat…I hope you don’t beat your sister/wife to bad for it!
Boat on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:43 am
Mm
Yes I would bet against the German predictions. They thought they could win WWII. Bad bad track record.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:45 am
Dr Collin Campbell (2012) Peak All liquids 2020
https://imgur.com/a/9nVCnAB
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MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:51 am
Trump’s first year,
Record number of drug overdoses. Record number of category four hurricanes making landfall. Record number of retail store closures. And record number of active shooting incidents….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jz1TjCphXE
If those aren’t signs of collapse, I don’t know what is?
Boat on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:55 am
Mm
The more they drill the more they find. Look at Texas, the Permian was about played out and now picked estiments as high 40 billion barrels. 50 years ago proved reserves was less than that for the entire US. Do you not read? This recent history superceds all those old ass links you post. They are in the dust bin of nonrevelent history along with grampa mm who found an old book.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:57 am
Worlds largest multinational bank HSBC Investor Alert “Man Battlestations”
https://imgur.com/a/AdEYswT
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 11:59 am
Boat
New oil discoveries peaked in the 1960’s and they have discovered less oil every decade since. Last year they found less than five percent to cover our entire worlds consumption. Shale is just a stop gap measure.
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa
Cloggie on Sat, 5th May 2018 12:01 pm
Will Scotland still be part of the UK by 2040?
By 2020?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-44005360
Major Scottish independence march today. Police says 35,000 participated. Scotland voted to remain in the UK a few years ago, but also wants to remain in the EU.
Since Brexit, remaining in the UK and EU at the same time conflicts. A new Scottish independence vote is likely to be close to 50-50.
Boat on Sat, 5th May 2018 12:01 pm
Mm
That opposition leader from Russia is 6’2″. Putin is like 5’6″. Dinky little feller. That’s why he was attested. Too tall.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 12:15 pm
Clogg
I am sure breaking off will bring them the prosperity back….LOL Its not going to matter in a few years. Europe is fucked when the oil crisis hits.
Boat on Sat, 5th May 2018 12:18 pm
Mm
Your manifesto is bullshyt. Where is the added billions from the Permian alone. Some little middle east country just found 10’s of billions. Update that chart and quit it with the disinformation. PS Where is the Saudi 10 billion. That’s 130 billion missing from your chart in just the last couple of years. Your information sucks. You don’t follow oil, you cut and paste links like mak. You moving to the P’s?
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 12:23 pm
We live in frightening times. It’s my belief that “you personally” will most likely die of starvation or conflict between 2020 to 2050.
You will experience a collapse of human civilization, a die-off of humans, a destruction of the ecosystem, a loss of access to mined and drilled resources, and a dark age from which your descendent’s will not reemerge.
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 12:27 pm
Boat
The largest discovery in the last 30 years was back in 2000 (Khzstan oil field) in the Caspian Sea, right next to Afghanistan. And it has taken 14 years to bring it online. And even if its missing 130 billion. The world used 33 billion last year. So that would only be around 3.5 years worth of oil. Not a game changer. Sorry. its irreverent.
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa
Cloggie on Sat, 5th May 2018 12:30 pm
I am sure breaking off will bring them the prosperity back….LOL Its not going to matter in a few years. Europe is fucked when the oil crisis hits.
https://tinyurl.com/yaamkzh2
Scotland has 68% electricity from renewable sources.
And endless opportunities for pumped hydro storage:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/11/19/world-record-pumped-hydro-storage-for-scotland/
68% is enough to bootstrap the Scots into 100%, 150%, etc.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 12:33 pm
Scottland
peak oil is liquids fuel problem. Not an electricity problem. Scotland doesn’t even use oil for electricity. How many millions of times do I have to repeat myself. renewable electricity doesn’t matter, oil powers 90 percent of the worlds transportation and there is no substitutes.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 12:34 pm
Clogg
Your source was the national..You swallow the propaganda up like mothers milk…LOL
Cloggie on Sat, 5th May 2018 12:38 pm
We live in frightening times. It’s my belief that “you personally” will most likely die of starvation or conflict between 2020 to 2050.
That’s a safe bet since most posters here are “way over the hill”.
I wonder millimind if you really understand peak oil. Peak oil adepts never suggested that the world will fall off an energy cliff.
This is peak oil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil#/media/File:Hubbert_peak_oil_plot.svg
…meaning that after the peak there will be decades of oil left, albeit every year less so.
In other words, if peak oil would hit by say 2020, expect oil prices to go through the roof, making the energy crisis acute… but not deadly. It would mean an enormous boost for renewable energy. The message would be: open your wallets and order your offshore wind park in Europe now. No need to worry, your brothers in Europe have everything under control. All you need to do is bring that silly SUV of yours to the smelter and turn it into a wind turbine.
Easy does it.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 1:05 pm
Not the ‘preppers’ you see on TV: America’s wealthy take ‘prepping’ seriously
https://sofrep.com/102669/not-the-preppers-you-see-on-tv-americas-wealthy-take-prepping-seriously/
JuanP on Sat, 5th May 2018 1:10 pm
MM “We live in frightening times. It’s my belief that “you personally” will most likely die of starvation or conflict between 2020 to 2050. You will experience a collapse of human civilization, a die-off of humans, a destruction of the ecosystem, a loss of access to mined and drilled resources, and a dark age from which your descendent’s will not reemerge.”
You forgot to paste the part about our wives, sisters, and daughters getting raped by marauding gangs of cannibals. You are a complete joke. LOL!
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 1:14 pm
Clogg
Wind turbines make no difference because oil isn’t used for electricity production. Switching to wind is irreverent. I already talked to Douglas B Reynolds PhD who is an energy economist. Professor of oil and energy economics at the University of Alaska. He said to expect an economic collapse worse than the soviet union when the oil shortages hits.
JuanP on Sat, 5th May 2018 1:18 pm
MM “So that would only be around 3.5 years worth of oil. Not a game changer”
As someone who doesn’t believe the game can be changed because our predicament is a consequence of our nature, I will gladly take those 3.5 years. They make a big difference in my life. I will take and seize every single minute I can get. Carpe diem.
JuanP on Sat, 5th May 2018 1:19 pm
MM, The word you are looking for is irrelevant, not irreverent.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 1:43 pm
Boat
When those oil shortages hit they are going to have to cancel Nascar forever. LOL the hicks will be furious! Muh racing! LOL
MASTERMIND on Sat, 5th May 2018 1:56 pm
This is the future!
https://imgur.com/a/ryUy3Ed
Anarchy!