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Saudi Prince says CIA cannot be trusted
A senior Saudi prince cast doubt on the reported CIA finding that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul last month, saying the agency could not be counted on to reach a credible conclusion.
“The CIA is not necessarily the highest standard of veracity or accuracy in assessing situations. The examples of that are multitude,” Prince Turki al-Faisal, a senior member of the royal family, told journalists in Abu Dhabi on Saturday.
The prince, a former Saudi intelligence chief who has also served as ambassador to the United States, said the agency’s conclusion that Iraq possessed chemical weapons before the US invasion in 2003 showed it could be unreliable.
“That was the most glaring of inaccurate and wrong assessments, which led to a full-scale war with thousands being killed,” he said, speaking at an event hosted by the Beirut Institute think tank.
“I don’t see why the CIA is not on trial in the United States. This is my answer to their assessment of who is guilty and who is not and who did what in the consulate in Istanbul.”
The CIA has concluded that Prince Mohammed ordered the operation to kill Khashoggi, as first reported by the Washington Post, and briefed other parts of the US government on its findings, sources told Reuters news agency last week.
US President Donald Trump has disputed that the agency reached a conclusion on the murder, saying instead “they have feelings certain ways”.
A Turkish newspaper also reported on Thursday that CIA Director Gina Haspel signalled to Turkish officials that the agency had a recording of a call in which the crown prince gave instructions to “silence” the journalist.
Khashoggi was killed at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on October 2 in an operation that Turkish authorities have said was ordered by the highest level of Saudi leadership, prompting the kingdom’s biggest political crisis in a generation.
After offering numerous contradictory explanations, Riyadh said Khashoggi was killed and his body dismembered after negotiations to persuade him to return to Saudi Arabia failed.
The kingdom’s public prosecutor is seeking the death penalty for five suspects charged in the murder, but has said Prince Mohammed had no prior knowledge of the operation.
Prince Turki told the Associated Press news agency the killing of Khashoggi was “an unacceptable incident that tars and mars the long record of Saudi Arabia’s own standing in the world”.
“We will have to bear that. It’s not something that should not be faced. And we do face it,” he said.
Dealing with Saudi Arabia
Prince Mohammed embarked late on Thursday on his first foreign tour since the killing with a visit to the United Arab Emirates. He is expected to visit Bahrain and Tunisia before going to Buenos Aires on November 30 for the start of the two-day G-20 summit, where he’ll come face to face with world leaders.
Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who has kept international pressure mounting on the kingdom, are among those expected to attend.
“Whether the leaders in that summit will warmly engage with the crown prince or not, I think all of them recognise that the kingdom as a country and King Salman and the crown prince are people that they have to deal with,” the prince said.
He said Saudi Arabia will continue to play a role on the world stage and that Trump’s statement of support for Saudi Arabia recognises the importance of the kingdom.
“I thought President Trump was expressing what he felt was in the interest of the United States. He emphasised the strategic relationship between the two countries in the same statement and how Saudi Arabia has been helpful in many instances — not just oil,” Prince Turki said.
The prince, who led Saudi intelligence for more than two decades and served as ambassador to the US and Britain, worked closely for years with Khashoggi before the writer became an outspoken government critic.
Khashoggi worked under Prince Turki as a spokesperson for the Saudi Embassy in London and later in Washington, DC.
The prince’s father is the late King Faisal and his brother is Prince Khalid al-Faisal, the governor of Mecca.
Prince Turki said that reports of discontent within the ruling Al Saud family over the crown prince’s rapid rise to power do not reflect the “extraordinary support” that King Salman and his son, the crown prince, enjoy.
“I see no signs of such disquiet or uncertainty vis-a-vis the king and the crown prince,” he said.
69 Comments on "Saudi Prince says CIA cannot be trusted"
Duncan Idaho on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 12:57 pm
Saudi Prince says CIA cannot be trusted
Really? I’m devastated!
Cloggie on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 12:59 pm
My world will never be the same again.
Fortunately we still have the Saudi government as a beacon of hope and moral guidance.
Chrome Mags on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 1:10 pm
How can the CIA be trusted when they cannot recognize power and wealth enough to order torture and murder, presumptive it will occur without repercussions? I mean when you’ve got enough money to buy just about anything, you get bored sometimes and it’s a bit of fun to drag someone in and give a good working over. So sometimes the people they give orders to get carried away and the next thing you know the person has been, well, put into his or her separate parts. But you know, it’s all in a days fun! Come on let these people have their kicks. (sarc)
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 2:43 pm
Russia ‘fires on and seizes Ukraine ships
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46338671
This could be the false flag we have been waiting for..Come to Papa!
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 2:46 pm
This act of aggression by Putin can not be tolerated!
Hit em with a nuclear first strike!
We will shock and awe them like we did to Iraq!
Cloggie on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 3:01 pm
This act of aggression by Putin can not be tolerated!
Hit em with a nuclear first strike!
We will shock and awe them like we did to Iraq! /i>
https://goo.gl/images/yyy8J9
Here we have a CNN hit piece against Putin:
https://youtu.be/ZZ-Kwr0VFUE
EVERY SINGLE WAR MONGER IN THIS VIDEO IS A J**
We are with 600 million Europeans and 1300 million Chinese. We just got conveniently rid of the British.
Let’s… um… liberate European America. Yeah, that’s it. Liberate European America! Two billion Eurasians are going to liberate European America of 200 million.
Cloggie on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 3:03 pm
https://www.rt.com/news/444841-kerch-strait-blocked-russia-ukraine/
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 3:11 pm
Clogg
Do you think you leading some sort of revolution on a doomer blog?
LOL
Please don’t ever leave..You make me laugh every single day..
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 3:23 pm
This aggression by the Russian’s can not be tolerated..If we do it sets a precedent that will someday reach to any American ship..
Hit em hard!
And then we drill baby drill and are the last man standing when China collapses..
Cloggie on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 3:35 pm
Do you think you leading some sort of revolution on a doomer blog?
I have repeatedly said that WW3/CW2 is next and that it will be between Eurasia and Anglosphere.
You are inciting war with Russia.
You will get war with Eurasia.
And next CW2, because if faced with being thrown in the Eurasian meatgrinder, poor white BMI35 Americans, not exactly born for heroism, will prefer a less risky uprising at home.
Here, most links are from you. Below made an update today:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/06/11/cw2-brewing/
There is no way you can escape war.
Cloggie on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 3:48 pm
France threatens Britain with military action:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6426739/Macron-warns-Britain-FORCED-backstop-fishing.html
It’s coming!
What is required now is hardness, virile masculine, ruthless hardness.
China flirting with Europe:
https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/china-flirt-uitbundig-met-de-eu-om-samen-trumps-handelsoorlog-te-omzeilen~bdddf058/
Mobsters cards are extremely weak…
Cloggie on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 3:57 pm
Correction, France does NOT threathen Britain with military action.
GetAVasectomyAndLetTheHumanSpecieDie on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 4:07 pm
Arab and Black are garbage skin that have contributed nothing to the world.
Nobody likes Black and Arab and nobody respect them. If all Arab and Black were to disappears of the face of the earth nothing will happen.
Don’t listen to Arab and Black, they have a too low IQ and are useless garbage
Cloggie on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 4:10 pm
Clashes between French and British fishing boats 2 months ago:
https://youtu.be/ztLZmFpoHNw
It looks like British commenters are in for a good fight as well:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6426739/Macron-warns-Britain-FORCED-backstop-fishing.html#comments
– Macron warns he will FORCE Britain into Irish border ‘backstop’ if it does not give the French access to UK fishing waters
– Macron risked fuelling Brexiteers’ anger at the end of the EU summit in Brussels
– He said the threat of keeping Britain in a customs union would be ‘leverage’
– France and several other EU nations are determined to keep fishing in UK waters
Meanwhile the Spanish are already thinking they have their Gibraltar back:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6426123/Theresa-faces-Gibraltar-challenge-Brexit-deal-Spanish-Prime-Minister-claims-joint-sovereignty.html
…and they are correct!
The Meditarenean is European!
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 4:54 pm
Clogg
You are getting all riled up from fake news..The daily mail is black listed by wiki for writing fake news..
You are so ignorant and gullible..Typical right wing loon
makati1 on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 5:17 pm
MOB, WIKI is owned and controlled by the Deep State along with all of the online social nets. It is about as reliable as the NYT or WaPo. In other words, not at all.
The US is in deep shit and there is no way out but violence and destruction on the home turf. You were just born about 40 years too late. I experienced America’s best years. You will get to experience its worse. Bad luck on your part.
The riots I saw in the late 60s and early 70s are nothing compared to what is coming to the US soon. America, the land of snowflakes. The US couldn’t raise a viable army now if it tried. Too many druggies and obese wimps that couldn’t even get thru Basic Training.
Its existing military materials are obsolete and the new stuff doesn’t work. You live in a 3rd world, banana republic MOB. Graft and corruption everywhere. The rest of the world is watching the US’ self-destruction with happy anticipation of its demise as a world power. My advice: get out now.
Cloggie on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 5:27 pm
This just in: Spain insists on shared souvereignty of Gibraltar:
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/1125/1013232-gibraltar-brexit/
Wouldn’t be surprised if I wake up tomorrow and read that in a “night and fog” action, Spain had occupied the rock.
And be honest: would the US tolerate a, say French naval base at Cape Cod? Of course not. Well then.
If you want to become a superpower, with twice as many whites as the US, began to behave like one.
Cloggie on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 5:29 pm
WIKI is owned and controlled by the Deep State
Wikipedia is run by a (((Jimmy Wales))), who is definately not from Wales.lol
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 5:47 pm
Mak
I know wiki is owned by the Illuminati/ lizard people/NWO..
You are so out of you mind..I hope I never grow as old and senile as you..
China is headed for bankruptcy..100 trillion in debt and counting..Plus they are the worlds largest oil importer and oil is peaking now..They showed up to the party after the kegs have already been drank..
makati1 on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 5:47 pm
“Jimmy Wales, in full Jimmy Donal Wales, (born August 8, 1966, Huntsville, Alabama, U.S. [see Researcher’s Note]), American entrepreneur, who cofounded Wikipedia, a free Internet-based encyclopaedia operating under an open-source management style.
Wales received degrees in finance from Auburn University (B.S.) and the University of Alabama (M.S.). From 1994 to 2000 he was an options trader in Chicago, amassing enough money to allow him to quit and start his own Internet company. Wales was a devotee of objectivism, and in 1989 he began moderating the online Ayn Rand Philosophy Discussion List. In March 2000, perhaps inspired by objectivist “openness,” he founded a free online encyclopaedia called Nupedia, which sought free contributions from scholars and other experts and subjected them to an intensive peer-review process. Frustrated by the slow progress of this project, Wales and Nupedia’s editor in chief, Larry Sanger, in 2001 turned to a new technology, a type of software called wiki, to create Wikipedia, a companion encyclopaedia site that anyone could contribute to and edit. Sanger and Wales parted company in 2002, but they continued to dispute who first came up with the idea of using the wiki software.
Despite certain vulnerabilities—including the fact that Wikipedia was the object of deliberate vandalism, editorial wars, and practical jokes—the site was a huge success. By 2006 Wikipedia was available in a number of languages and was one of the Internet’s most popular sites. In 2003 Wales established the Wikimedia Foundation to oversee his expanding online enterprises. He extended the wiki model to several other projects, including Wiktionary and Wikinews. In 2004 he cofounded with Angela Beesley the for-profit Wikia, Inc.”
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jimmy-Wales
makati1 on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 5:50 pm
NOTE: “Wikipedia, a companion encyclopaedia site that anyone could contribute to and edit….including the fact that Wikipedia was the object of deliberate vandalism, editorial wars, and practical jokes” Facts or Propaganda?
Nuff said.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 5:57 pm
Mak
Study: Wikipedia as accurate as Britannica
The journal Nature says the open-access encyclopedia is about as accurate as the old standby.
https://www.cnet.com/news/study-wikipedia-as-accurate-as-britannica/
You aren’t intelligent and educated enough to know what a reliable source is.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 5:58 pm
Mak
Its too easy to make you look like a fool..You and clog are both peak boomer brains..Its sad someone as dumb as you was breeding several children..I bet they are almost autistic…
LMFAO!
makati1 on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 6:26 pm
MOB, obviously your meds/drugs are destroying your mind. Do you actually read what you post? Look in the mirror and see what you have become, another piece of American trash, destined to fail at everything you do, even suicide. A beggar in your mom’s basement in all likelihood.
You don’t like the message so you try to discredit the messenger. That does not change anything. Denial only makes it worse for the denier who does not think and plan for the future. That is you, loser. America is in the shitter, swirling down the drain and no one can or even want to save it. The collapse is ongoing.
Your future is much as Cloggie pictures it. WW3 with destruction of America and/or Civil War 2 with a similar ending. America is finally getting what it has done to so many 3rd world countries, death and destruction. Well deserved, I think. Maybe when all of America’s cities look like the bombed out cities of third world countries that the US has invaded since WW2, the serfs will wake up, but I doubt it. They will blame it on the “dirty” Russians and/or Chinese and/or Bangladeshis, etc., not on their own arrogance, stupidity and greed. So be it. Denial and blame changes nothing. America is over.
Anonymouse on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 6:33 pm
Funny isnt it? An article about the SAUDIs and the CIA, is quickly turned into a dicussion having nothing to do either of those. What a shock eh? And how do we have to thank (again)? Our pair of resident Israel-first responders and 24/7 no-life de-railers or troll(meister) if you prefer kosher-boy.
I AM THE DAVYTURD
and
Cloggrahgam Finklestein.
Well done dumbass(s).
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 6:36 pm
Mak
You are not arguing with me..You are arguing with yourself..
You need to be put down like old yeller..
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 6:39 pm
I hate to say it but, with a global oil shortage coming in just a few years and climate change getting worse..A major nuclear war to depopulate the planet would make a lot of sense right now..
Couple dozens strategic nukes hitting Asia and Russia should do just fine.
makati1 on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 7:30 pm
MOB, you are delusional and definitely slipping into insanity. Reread your above putdown and see if I am not correct. I am not arguing with myself, I am proving your ignorance with facts.
BTW: Your obsession with China and Russia proves your American brainwashing is working. That is about all the US can do right these days. The US is already collapsing and the signs are all around you, if you chose to see them, but denial and blame are all Americans have left of their crumbling empire.
A beautiful, sunny, warm Monday morning here in the land of eternal summer. 82F with a nice ocean breeze. ^_^
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 7:42 pm
Mak
Must suck to be in such a nice place and be all alone..All that sunshine and nobody to share it with..
Don’t worry there are clouds on the horizon..Mushroom clouds..
LMFAO!
makati1 on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 7:51 pm
“Terrorism is “Made in the USA”. The “Global War on Terrorism” is a Fabrication, A Big Lie”
”
“The Globalization of War is undoubtedly one of the most important books on the contemporary global situation produced in recent years.
In his latest masterpiece, Professor Michel Chossudovsky shows how the various conflicts we are witnessing today in Ukraine, Syria, Iraq and Palestine are in fact inter-linked and inter-locked through a single-minded agenda in pursuit of global hegemony helmed by the United States and buttressed by its allies in the West and in other regions of the world.”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/terrorism-is-made-in-the-usa-the-global-war-on-terrorism-is-a-fabrication-a-big-lie/5435816
makati1 on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 8:00 pm
MOB, again you are fantasizing a lifestyle that doesn’t exist. You and your Siamese twin, Davy, like to make up lies when you cannot refute the accusations. Especially if they are true.
YOU are the one with no life or you would not be on here all the time trying to prove you are educated but failing miserably. I check in here occasionally when I want a break from other activities. I don’t live online like you do.
BTW: I have all the friends I need, including a Filipino neighbor who is 72 and has seen the changes in the Ps just as I have seen them in the US. We share family experiences and thoughts on current events. He is not very educated but is smarter than you are about life. LOL
Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 8:18 pm
anontard why u disrespectin’ supertard
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 8:20 pm
Mak
You are a pathetic loser who can’t get over being duped by your wife..So now you hold a irrational grudge against all of America..Maybe you should turn the page and get on with your life..People who are confident with themselves dont spend all day trying to bring others down..Misery loves company and you are one lonely and miserable person..
makati1 on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 8:44 pm
MOB, insanity or just stupidity? Look in the mirror and see a real loser with no future. Stop fantasizing a life for someone else that mirrors your own. It exposes your jealousy.
I have a very successful, secure and satisfying life here. More friends than I need or want. A loving, adopted family. I have all the ‘positives’ I could want or expect in today’s world. No negatives.
On the other hand, you have nothing. Contribute nothing. Do the world a favor and off yourself soon. Save those resources for someone who can use them intelligently.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 9:20 pm
Mak
People who are secure dont spend all day wishing death on others they don’t even know..Especially for things that are out of their control..
You are just a nutty old crank..Why dont you go die somewhere and do this world a favor.
Nobody needs another dark cloud like you around..
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 10:18 pm
Russia could be about to invade the UK at any moment while the UK is distracted by brexit and Irish border issues.
They better think about a nuclear first strike to knock them out..
Hit em hard!
Cloggie on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 11:38 pm
Just listened to US white nationalist Greg Johnson, who spoke before the Dutch right-wing club Erkenbrand:
https://cdn.counter-currents.com/radio/Erkenbrand%20-%20Free%20Speech.mp3
https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/11/freedom-of-speech-2/
He says he has given up on America, it is going insane and will fall apart, which he no longer deplores. He puts his hope on Europe, mostly Eastern Europe and Italy. Americans like Johnson are our guys, we should help them escape from Washington. THAT is why we need Macron’s Euro-army, to intervene in North-America if all hell breaks lose and help white America to secede. He denounces capitalism as a globalist cancer.
The French and Dutch played a decisive role in helping America coming about in 1776. PBM can do that again:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/amerikaner/
makati1 on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 11:49 pm
MOB, I want the US to go down. I don’t care if it by the economy collapsing or it’s isolation by the rest of the world. I just want it to not be able to terrorize the rest of the world like it has been for these last 70 years. I want it to be forced out of all the countries that it has military occupation bases in today. Some 800+ of them. I want it to live by the Constitution and Bill of Rights, but they are long dead. American greed killed them.
Americans have been asking for this pain for a long time. Blow-back is a bitch and it ALWAYS happens. You just happen to be living in the time of America’s blow-back for all the murders and plundering it has been doing in YOUR name. I have not voted for over 20 years, or paid taxes for over 11 years. Now it is YOUR money that keeps it going. Therefore, YOU are responsible for your own fall.
Americans need to see the dark cloud. Like you, they want to blame others for it, when it is their own inaction, greed and sloth that is allowing it to be there and grow. The Cat. 10 hurricane is approaching. I’m watching the show from the balcony an ocean and over 8,000 miles away. Leave the US now and avoid the rush. Thousands are doing it every year. Soon the gate will slam shut. Which side will you be on? LOL
makati1 on Sun, 25th Nov 2018 11:50 pm
BTW MOB, you could get a job and have a real life if you quit wasting time here. If there are dark clouds, they are of your making, not mine.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 26th Nov 2018 4:23 am
Mak
I have a job you duffus..I am not going to keep repeating myself because you don’t listen..
I know you want the US to die because you are about to kick the bucket and you want to us to go down with you..Misery loves company..
You should mind your own damn business..
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 26th Nov 2018 4:26 am
Clogg
You just listened to a white nationalist..Translation: you were just being brainwashed..And brainwashed people always want to spread their disease to others, because they think the more people who believe it the more likely its true..
White nationalism is for basement dwellers..I suggest you lose that shit or you will never get laid again. Just look at Charletsville there were zero woman marching..
Cloggie on Mon, 26th Nov 2018 4:34 am
Even old-school Dem Kunstler thinks that the US will fall apart. So what? Both the US and Europe between Atlantic and Ural mountains are 10 million km2. Europe is 30 countries, America 1. South-America is several countries with virtually white Uruguay, Argentina and Chile existing next to indiginious countries like Peru and Bolivia and Venezuela. Won’t be different with North-America… after the break.
Cloggie on Mon, 26th Nov 2018 4:39 am
“Just look at Charletsville there were zero woman marching..”
Politics is for men, always has been, with a few exceptions. That’s why. Women wait to see who wins and next have his children.
Questions?
Davy on Mon, 26th Nov 2018 4:44 am
“Even old-school Dem Kunstler thinks that the US will fall apart. Won’t be different with North-America… after the break.”
Neder, maybe the reason you are manic lately with your 20/7 commenting is your fantasy world is not materializing. It takes a huge amount of revisions with detailed explanations to rearrange reality.
Davy on Mon, 26th Nov 2018 4:47 am
“Politics is for men, always has been, with a few exceptions. That’s why. Women wait to see who wins and next have his children.”
LOL, says the lonely old manic dutch guy 20/7 in his itty bitty dutch hamlet and his itty bitty house with his itty bitty eurotard world view.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 26th Nov 2018 4:50 am
Good one Davy!
Only the unloved hate Clogg..The unloved and unnatural.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 26th Nov 2018 4:58 am
Clogg its way past your bedtime and I think you need to change your depends..you stink..
Davy on Mon, 26th Nov 2018 4:59 am
“Salvini Takes Control Of Europe’s Future (And The Goldman Angle)”
https://tinyurl.com/y97vomq4
“Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini just declared himself the leader of the Europe’s future. He refuses to budge one inch in negotiations with the European Union over Italy’s budget now threatening to take down the government. And in doing this he not only speaks for Italians, he is now speaking for that growing part of the European population who sees what the EU is morphing into and recoiling in horror.”
“Italy’s debt problems are not solvable within the euro. Salvini understands this. The biggest impediment to his plans are the Italian people themselves. They have to come to the conclusion that the short-term pain of leaving the euro is worth the long-term benefits. I don’t know if Salvini has made that case clearly enough for them to this point, but this is absolutely what he will have to do.”
“Because don’t think for one second that Salvini doesn’t know what the real story behind Italy’s debt is and who is hurt worst by exposing it to the vicissitudes of the market. At this point he’s daring Draghi to stop supporting Italian bond yields. Let yields rise. Let’s find out who is behind the insolvent Italian banks swimming naked as the tide rolls out, liquidity dries up and the whole European debt market seizes up.”
Davy on Mon, 26th Nov 2018 5:05 am
Here is the typical twisting of neder’s reality. He talks up eastern Europe and a Eurotard army but lookie here reality is not cooperating.
“US Is “The Only Real Guarantor” Of European Security, Claims Polish PM”
https://tinyurl.com/yajuokxk
“Perhaps “Fort Trump” is making progress? Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said Sunday in reaction to continued EU discussion of French and German to plans for a “European Army” that the United States is the only guarantor of European defense and security. Like the idea of “Fort Trump” first floated by Polish President Andrzej Duda in September during a White House visit, these latest statements out of Poland will be music to the US president’s ears. “We would like Europe as a whole to strengthen its military potential,” Morawiecki told a Polish public broadcaster from Brussels immediately after Europe’s leaders approved the Brexit deal negotiated with the U.K. “But at the same time today we emphasize that the only real guarantor of security in Europe, including the eastern flank of NATO, is the U.S.,” he said according”
Cloggie on Mon, 26th Nov 2018 5:13 am
Not again this US Italian Luongo.
“The biggest impediment to his plans are the Italian people themselves”
Exactly, corrupt tax dodgers. Leaving the euro is a good idea so they can go back to their shabby lira and 10-15% inflation per year. Either that or every Italian household a mortgage of 30k€.
We should call their bluff. I think they will remain in the euro. No African-American wants to return to Africa. They want to stay with WASPS. Likewise the Italians will remain in the waspy euro. Status thingy.