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The wheel of time rolls forward, never retracing its path, but because it is a wheel, and we are riding in it, a persistent illusion persuades us that the landscape is recognizably the same, and that our doings within the regular turning of the seasons seem comfortably normal. There is no normal.
There is for us, at this moment in history, an especially harsh turning (so Strauss and Howe would say) as our journey takes the exit ramp out of the high energy era into the next reality of a long emergency. The human hive-mind senses that something is different, but at the same moment we’re unable to imagine changing all our exquisitely tuned arrangements — especially the thinking class in charge of all that, self-enchanted with pixeled fantasies. The dissonance over this is driving America crazy.
The wheel hit a deep pothole in 2008 turning onto the off-ramp and has been wobbling badly ever since. 2008 was a warning that going through the motions isn’t enough to sustain a sense of purpose, either nationally or for individuals trying to keep their lives together ever more desperately. The cultural memory of the confident years, when we seemed to know what we were doing, and where we were going, dogs us and mocks us.
The young adults feel all that most acutely. The pain prompts them to want to deconstruct that memory. “No, it didn’t happen that way,” they are saying. All those stories about the founding of this society — of those Great Men with their powdered hair-doos writing the national charter, and the remarkable experience of the past 200-odd years — are wrong! There was nothing wonderful about it. The whole thing was a swindle!
They are feeling the wheel’s turning most painfully, since they know they will see many more turnings in the years ahead, and the direction of the wheel is vectoring downward for them. The bottom-line is less of everything, not more. That is a new ethos here in America and it’s hardly comforting: Less income, fewer comforts, more literal hardships, fewer consolations for the universal difficulty of being alive. No wonder they are angry.
It’s this simple. We landed in the New World five hundred years ago. It was full of good things that human beings had barely begun to exploit, laid out like a banquet. There was plenty of good virgin soil for growing food, the best timber in the world, clean rivers and great lakes, ores full of iron, gold, and silver, and down deep a bonanza of coal and oil to drive the wheel through very flush times. The past century was particularly supercharged, the oil years.
Imagine living through the very start of all that, the blinding, fantastic newness of modernity! Look back at the stories and images around Teddy Roosevelt and his times, and the confidence of that era just astonishes you, An emergent cavalcade of wonders: electricity, telephones, railroads, subways, skyscrapers! And in a few more years movies, cars, airplanes, radio. Even the backstage wonders of the day were astonishments: household plumbing for all, running hot water, municipal water and sewer systems, refrigeration, tractors! It’s hard to conceive how much these developments changed the human experience of daily life.
Even the traumas of the 20th century’s world wars did not crush that sense of amazing progress, at least not in North America, spared the wars’ mighty wreckage. The post-war confidence of American society achieved a level of in-your-face laughable hubris — see the USA in your Chevrolet! — until John Kennedy was shot down, and after that the delirious moonshot euphoria steadily gave way to corrosive skepticism, anxiety, acrimony, and enmity. My generation, booming into adulthood, naively thought they could fix all that with Earth Day, tofu, and computers, and keep the great wheel rolling down into an even more glorious cybernetic nirvana.
Fakeout. That’s not where the wheel is going. We borrowed all we possibly could from the future to pretend that the system was still working, and now the future is at the door like a re-po man come to take away both the car and the house. The financial scene is an excellent analog to our collective psychology. Its workings depend on the simple faith that its workings work. So, it is easy to imagine what happens when that faith wavers.
We’re on the verge of a lot of things coming apart: supply lines, revenue streams, international agreements, political assumptions, promises to do this and that. We have no idea how to keep it together on the downside. We don’t even want to think about it. The best we can do for the moment is pretend that the downside doesn’t exist. And meanwhile, fight both for social justice and to make America great again, two seemingly noble ideas, both exercises in futility. The wheel is still turning and the change of season soon upon us. What will you do?
177 Comments on "Kunstler: There Is No Normal"
makati1 on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 6:35 pm
Why, Davy, EVERYONE who visits this site can see it for themselves. I don’t have to call it out. You do every post you make.
Are you enjoying your insanity by posting shit on PO for the last 6+ years? When you realized that no one sided with your narrow view of the world, you became abusive and destructive. You couldn’t accept the fact that, most times, you were/are wrong.
It is difficult to follow who is the real person and who is one of your fake posts, so I don’t try. If we annoy you, just leave. We would all be happy if you did.
You are a nobody, Davy, trying to get attention like a spoiled child or my dog when he barks for no reason except to let me know he is there. No one cares if you exist Davy.
Richard Guenette on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 6:57 pm
Makati1, you are a wise person.
Davy on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 6:58 pm
“Why, Davy, EVERYONE who visits this site can see it for themselves. I don’t have to call it out. You do every post you make.”
Who? What?, you don’t even know what you are talking about blue hair.
“Are you enjoying your insanity by posting shit on PO for the last 6+ years?”
I have enjoyed moderating your BS and I have seen most of your points evaporate when reality tests them. Look at Asia these days. The place is falling apart. It was not supposed to be that way, right makato?? Yea, give us the 20 figure debt figure for the US and talk about baby killers. No arguments other than you more than anyone here deserve responsibility for these failures of the US. Instead you run to the p’s and point fingers at others. I told you 6 years ago to quit calling my family fat and stupid but you did not listen. You only hear yourself because you are an egotistical fool just like Juanpee.
“ When you realized that no one sided with your narrow view of the world, you became abusive and destructive. You couldn’t accept the fact that, most times, you were/are wrong.”
Who? What? Do you mean your gang?? Five guys do not make an everyone, blue hair.
“It is difficult to follow who is the real person and who is one of your fake posts, so I don’t try. If we annoy you, just leave. We would all be happy if you did.”
Yet, you support and enable the lunatic juanp and his ID theft and socks then whine!! I am not going anywhere fool. I will be here to the end much to your irritation. You don’t have the freedom to be as extreme as you would like. Most of what you say I ignore because you have already proved yourself irrelevant and wrong on so many issues. You are now mostly redundant like old people get when they fall into ruts. They start repeating themselves and forget.
“You are a nobody, Davy, trying to get attention like a spoiled child or my dog when he barks for no reason except to let me know he is there. No one cares if you exist Davy.”
Sounds like the blue hair is stroking. Makato I am not here to get attention and I don’t look for people who care about me. I am looking for knowledge and information. If I see lies which you spew nightly and they are bad enough I neuter them. Got it, blue hair??
Richard Guenette on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:00 pm
I love you Makati1
Richard Guenette on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:01 pm
Davy is a waste of space. No one cares what he says.
Davy on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:01 pm
hey dick, it is a small m makati1. juanpee you should know that or is the 24 hours of commenting getting to you?
Richard Guenette on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:02 pm
Who is stealing my user name? I’m feeling nervous.
Davy on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:03 pm
Hey, dick is that all you have to say.lol. You got to be getting tired juanpee. are you doing meth? That will impact your chronic depression.
Richard Guenette on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:05 pm
I’m not coming back. I am tired of Davy stealing my name to post his abusive posts.
Davy on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:07 pm
well fools, have at it. I am signing off. I will be in Italy tomorrow. Light posting so enjoy your play time. Any Davy comments overnight are juan (the fuck) pee. Adios prick
Richard Guenette on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:17 pm
For those of you who don’t know me, I don’t spend my life being an asshole. Davy is a psychopath.
Richard Guenette on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:21 pm
Ignore Davy. Don’t respond to him. He is only looking for attention.
Richard Guenette on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:22 pm
STFU, Davy.
makati1 on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:25 pm
“hey dick, it is a small m makati1….”
Davy, correct English writing starts a sentence with a capital letter. Did you stop school in the 3rd grade?
Richard Guenette on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 7:41 pm
Davy, nobody likes you.
Cloggie on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 11:39 pm
“Trump is either trolling everyone or thinks he’s like a god”
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/donald-trump-chosen-one/index.html
“Yes, Donald Trump really believes he is ‘the chosen one’”
Donnie just took over from the Jews.lol
Seriously, Trump sees himself as the American Putin, who will liberate the European-Americans from the rule of the Jews. If he succeeds, he truly is the greatest president in US history.
Cloggie on Wed, 21st Aug 2019 11:48 pm
Lunacy in the French Alps, gletschers are not for Mountainbiking:
https://www.spiegel.de/video/les-deux-alpes-video-von-mountainbike-massensturz-veroeffentlicht-video-99029166.html
(nobody really got hurt)
#Tourarism
#TooBigAFootPrint
Cloggie on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 2:08 am
Breakfast with the DailyMail:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7380561/Boris-twitchy-anxious-veneer-cordiality-says-body-language-expert-JUDI-JAMES.html
“Boris Johnson was twitchy and anxious behind his veneer of cordiality: Body language expert JUDI JAMES analyses PM’s meeting with ‘deadpan’ Angela Merkel”
Deep down inside Boris knows he is playing with fire.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7381219/PETER-OBORNE-wanted-fail-Boris-Johnson-triumphed-Berlin.html
“PETER OBORNE: Many wanted him to fail, but Boris Johnson triumphed in Berlin… and suddenly Brexit is less like Mission Impossible”
Triumphed, really? Like how? The backstop was a GIFT from the EU to the UK in order to spare the latter the prospect of a renewed civil war in Northern-Ireland and likely Irish unification. There are not going to be any compromises regarding the integrity of the Common Market. What Merkel said was that if BoJo could come up (in 30 days) with a solid plan that guarantees the EU to remain in control over what goes in and out of the EU, it will be accepted and the backstop can be dropped. But the EU and UK have been trying for 3 years to come up with a solution and failed. No deal Brexit and hard border probably mean Irish unification, no ifs and buts.
Later today a less accommodating Macron will tell BoJo the same thing.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7380121/Boris-Johnson-arrives-Berlin-crunch-Brexit-talks-Angela-Merkel.html
“Angela Merkel tells Boris Johnson a Brexit deal to ditch the backstop CAN be done ‘in the next 30 days’ but warns Germany is prepared for No Deal in face-to-face meeting in Berlin”
No-deal is now the most likely outcome.
Cloggie on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 2:19 am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7379179/Boris-Johnson-delivers-massive-17-point-Tory-surge-polls.html
“Boris Johnson delivers a massive 17 point Tory surge in the polls putting PM on course for a huge Commons majority at a potential snap general election as voters ditch Labour and the Brexit Party while the Lib Dems stall”
BoJo clearly has the momentum to get brexit done, he can even call for a snap election.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7381045/Will-100billion-HS2-hit-buffers.html
“Will £100billion HS2 hit the buffers? Troubled high-speed rail scheme may be axed as ministers order review after years of spiralling costs”
By the end of 2020, the UK could have lost a staggering 10% GDP in the wake of a no-deal Brexit turning it into a even greater deficit country than it already is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_current_account_balance
Only the US is worse.
Highspeed rail is for surplus countries only: continental Europe, China and Japan. Not Anglo countries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOdATLzRGHc
Expect France to surpass the UK in the coming years.
Oh wait, there is Morocco, they have one too (French-built of course):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYtxk5nJSY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Boraq
(320 kmh)
In WW1 and WW2, France was the junior of the British empire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entente_Cordiale#/media/File:Germany_GB_France.gif
Thanks to the Americans, the British empire no longer exists. Thanks to Trump, the country could fall apart as well. Buying up Greenland will probably fail, but Britain is for sale. Scotland will probably not go along and flee back to Europe and Northern Ireland will join Ireland that is more prosperous than the UK.
Cloggie on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 2:25 am
Migrants are a weapon in the hands of leftist=globalist=commie organisations:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7380195/The-radicalisation-demands-migrants-concern-warns-official.html
“Migrants are being ‘radicalised’ by NGOs pushing them to raise their demands, warns UN refugee official after rescue ship trying to dock in Italy snubbed Spanish offer of asylum”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7379939/Office-National-Statistics-downgrades-not-fully-reliable-official-immigration-data.html
“Office for National Statistics downgrades ‘not fully reliable’ official immigration data as experts claim figures have been ‘systematically under-estimating net migration from EU countries'”
Bring them back. Europeans belong in Europe.
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 5:48 am
America should not rule out using nuclear weapons first
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2019/08/15/america-should-not-rule-out-using-nuclear-weapons-first?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/americashouldnotruleoutusingnuclearweaponsfirstfingeronthebutton
The Economist goes mask off!
Putin has already been slandered by the western media. Now all they need is a false flag and then its game over for the Kremlin.
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR!
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 5:51 am
Clogg
You might want to be a little more mindful about the content you are consuming online.
Breakfast with the daily mail. The breakfast of champions no doubt. That is why it is voted the least trusty-worthy source in the UK. And is banned by wiki for so many false stories.
LOL
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 5:55 am
Clogg
I don’t think you understand how capitalism works. Its based on endless growth and the majority of GDP is based on population growth. So when a country or region such as Europe in this case, stops growing. You need to bring in more immigrants to keep your economy from deflating.
“Childless Europe” -Bloomberg
https://imgur.com/a/z7GHKux
It’s either the great replacement or economic collapse. You choose, and choose wisely.
LOL
makati1 on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 6:43 am
MOB, you do know that the Russians can take out the US before the US missiles can try to hit Russia? Hyper-sonic beats ballistic any day. Not to mention that Russian antimissile systems actually work and are far above the antiques the US has. Be careful what you wish for. A nuclear war will destroy all of the US in a mater of hours.
BTW: The Economist is not a good source of intelligent thought or ideas.
Richard Guenette on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 6:57 am
People like Bolton, Pence and Pompeo should be sent to the battlefields and do their own dirty work.
Antius on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 7:03 am
The US government is gradually shutting down the democratic process and preparing for martial law.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-21/american-apocalypse-governments-plot-destabilize-nation-working
If you are openly critical of government you can expect to go onto a register of extremists, which is effectively a ‘pre-terrorist’. What do they think is going happen? Civil War 2 perhaps?
makati1 on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 7:31 am
Richard, I agree. If the generals had to be on the front lines instead in the Pentagon, All of the Congressmen had to put their kids on the front line along with themselves, and the president’s advisors with them, there would be no war.
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 7:32 am
Mak
Russia is totally surrounded by missile defense shields via NATO. And they can’t even test a nuke without a major accident like what happened recently.
They are a joke and will be neutralized.
makati1 on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 7:39 am
Antius, the US is isolating itself from the rest of the world. In a few years, it will be 3rd world of 60 years ago.
Imagine if Hitler, Stalin, or Mussolini had all of the propaganda/security systems the US has, and you can see the tax slave’s future. Dumbed down and brainwashed 24/7/365.
The Amerikan police state is in place. Martial law is only an executive order away. The serfs are too docile to revolt. Drugs, safety net freebies, “bread and circus” everywhere. By the time they see what is coming, it will be too late. I think it is already too late.
Emigrate now.
makati1 on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 7:53 am
MOB, keep that Russophobe mindset. When that 3AM flash knocks you out of bed, don’t forget, I told you so.
BTW: “The Soviet Union conducted 715 nuclear tests using 969 total devices by official count, including 219 atmospheric, underwater, and space tests and 124 peaceful use tests. Most of the tests took place at the Southern Test Site in Semipalatinsk, Kazakhstan and the Northern Test Site at Novaya Zemlya.”
They weren’t testing a nuke, they were testing the power for their newest, around the world drone. You might contemplate that ALL of the US antimissile systems are pointed north. The new drone can come from the south, over the pole, or west, or east, at mach 10 or about 6,600 mph. Across the Atlantic from Moscow to DC in about 40 minutes. And, the US anti-missile systems are only for ballistic missiles, not hypersonic drones that will come in low and fast. From a sub it will be minutes.
You can believe what you want but….
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 8:29 am
A no-Salvini alliance is Italy’s best hope
https://www.politico.eu/article/a-no-matteo-salvini-alliance-is-italy-best-hope-league-5star-movement-democratic-party/
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 8:43 am
White nationalists’ extreme solution to the coming environmental apocalypse
https://theconversation.com/white-nationalists-extreme-solution-to-the-coming-environmental-apocalypse-121532?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1566478718
Antius on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 8:44 am
“Russia is totally surrounded by missile defense shields via NATO. And they can’t even test a nuke without a major accident like what happened recently.”
The Russians were testing an air-breathing nuclear thermal engine. Quite a tricky thing to get right.
I AM THE MOB on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 8:56 am
Far-right violence is on the rise. Where is the outrage?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/22/far-right-violence-on-rise-where-is-outrage
Richard Guenette on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 9:01 am
The far-right are thugs. The police should crackdown on them.
Duncan Idaho on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 10:25 am
“…bat-chomping, bird-slicing, eco-crucifixes to produce energy so intermittent that it is often unavailable when needed most…”
Can you guess?
I’m a bit ore friendly on the issue.
Theedrich on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 10:56 am
Today’s grotesque, planeticidal materialsm must end. Man must start with a fundamentally different and new understanding of his own origin and being. Otherwise nihilism will bring about the complete failure of this planet’s attempt to produce intelligence. The following is my effort to show how our existence is the very opposite of meaningless.
At the end of their massive tome, Gravitation (S.F.: W.H. Freeman & Co., 1970-71, p. 1208), astrophysicists Charles W. Misner, Kip S. Thorne and John Archibald Wheeler derive the concept of an ultimate Mind behind the physical universe as a calculus of propositions, a form of logic which considers all possibilities for a cosmos, and chooses for implementation the one(s) which will produce biological intelligence.
Misner, Thorne and Wheeler further suggest that the REASON for the vast size of universe is Because only so can man be here! (pp. 1216f.)
If, now, we understand the essence of physical nature as being in fact rooted in mind operating through morphic resonance as explained by Rupert Sheldrake (in Morphic Resonance: The Nature of Formative Causation); and if, further, we recognize the history of biology on our planet as the epistemlogical evolution (i.e., evolution as a learning process) of life culminating in the emergence of biological intelligence from basic physics; then it would seem that biology is actually a fractal reproduction of this cosmic logic logic which MTW conceive of as a calculus of propositions.
Further yet, despite the fact that Wheeler himself rejected the entire notion of the paranormal, the abundant and overwhelming (non-Hollywood) evidence for it makes it clear that even intense human emotions (as in the experience of traumatic violence, etc.) can modify physical chemistry so as to imprint it with the memory of an event, thereby producing the phenomenon of haunted houses, etc., where psychically sensitive individuals can perceive that memory as ghostly visions or sounds.
In other words, this kind of mnemonic effect is of the same kind as, albeit much weaker than, the effect of the infinitely powerful cosmogonic logic which generates the universe.
As for memory itself: as many researchers have determined through rigorous experiments, brains (or cells, even bacterial) are not the same as the memories which they remember. This discovery is quite contrary to the common materialist dogma that nothing exists except what is physical, however defined. The ability of a brain to tune into a memory (e.g., a learned activity) seems to be widely distributed throughout all of it, while each section, no matter how small, has that ability, just less strongly and clearly. In other words, this ability functions as if in a hologram. (Depending on the researcher or philosopher, the realm of memory may be called transform space, hologramic mind, or some other term.) And some, extrapolating this finding, consider the entire universe to be a hologram.
This is relevant not just to the concept of morphic resonance, but to what is popularly called reincarnation. For information, e.g., on how birthmarks and birth defects often correspond to the death wounds of a previously deceased personality, see Ian Stevenson, Where Reincarnation and Biology Intersect. It indicates that the interplay between a physical organism and a corresponding memory is not just a one-way street. Memory guides the growth and behavior of a similarly structured, later individual. One may feel confident in asserting that it determines the shape and behavior of the most basic physical particles: the reason all electrons have the same shape, mass and spin is because they are all identical twins, remembering one and the same memory.
And at the root of it all, though far from Christian or other theology, is the cosmogonic logic, or mind, which is popularly called God, and which in Old English pre-Christian Germanic peoples called wyrd (fate), the etymological ancestor of modern English weird. Moreover, its teleological direction is utterly opposed to the meaninglessness so fervently embraced by the materialists and nihilists now in power in the West.
Cloggie on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 11:26 am
In a smart article, the Independent discovers Gaullism:
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/macron-boris-johnson-brexit-talks-merkel-eu-a9074626.html
“Emmanuel Macron now wants to force Britain out of the EU – and fast”
Macron smells the chance to be the architect of a new geopolitical formation that will eclipse empire and become the world’s new #1. France was never a more important country then now, even more so than under Napoleon in his best years. Napoleon’s scope was European, Macron’s global.
#TopOfTheWorld
boney joe on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 11:48 am
Peace and quiet without the troublemaker- how refreshing!!!!!
Davy on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 1:45 pm
sorry juanpee, I am here. wow, you are employing several socks these days. what a nutcase.
Davy on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 1:46 pm
cloggo, i went very close to your house at 31K feet. Did you see the contrail. I was thinking of you
Davy on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 2:07 pm
“The far-right are thugs. The police should crackdown on them.”
Dick (juanpee) the far left are facist thugs too. Your buddy MOBster is one
Cloggie on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 2:43 pm
“I don’t think you understand how capitalism works.””
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_people
The Dutch have left behind a substantial legacy despite the limited size of their country. The Dutch people are generally seen as the pioneers of capitalism, and their emphasis on a modern economy, secularism, and a free market ultimately had a huge influence on the great powers of the West, especially the British Empire, its Thirteen Colonies, and ultimately the United States.
There is nothing you can teach me about Capitalism, you loon:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/03/10/the-netherlands-in-the-17th-century/
We’ve had a capitalist system since ca. 1600 and many ups and down in between. Capitalism is important, but there is a much more important category and that is race.
Race.
RACE.
*** RACE ***
Got it?
You can’t expect tree-dwellers, the ones you want us to import (so they will destroy our civilization, which is your only intent)… you can’t expect them to invent capitalism. Or anything else for that matter. Europe is overpopulated anyway, it doesn’t matter that much if we contract from 500 to say 450 million. But yes, the childlessness needs to be stopped and for that, individualist liberalism, feminism, easy divorce, gay parades, gay marriage that all has to go.
But why am I even talking to a has-been like you from the middle of nowhere (“Middleville”). You are history. Your empire is hours away from military collapse:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-us-military-bases-war-asia-university-sydney-australia-japan-a9071326.html
“China could ‘render US military bases useless’ within hours of conflict in Asia, report says”
No worries, we’ll honestly try to suppress our Schadenfreude and instead send you blankets, choco-bars, 2nd-hand pdf’s of “Mein Jihad” and lots of warm words.
Davy on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 2:45 pm
Thee, great comment but isn’t it too human and earth centered. You are placing too much value on humans especially when the universe is so big. I would also say absolute intelligence would be frozen by complete knowing. How could the universe take its next step if it is already known? This then points to the importance of universal intelligence losing itself to find itself and thereby creating intellectual movement.
Davy on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 2:52 pm
“China could ‘render US military bases useless’ within hours of conflict in Asia, report says”
The US could wipe China off the map cloggo or have you forgotten that. The US is moving missiles to SCS. This is the primary reason for the INF falling apart.
Davy on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 2:54 pm
BTW cloggo. Contrails are REAL Green. Right up there with Napalm.
Dick Guenette ID theft on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 3:00 pm
Davy on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 2:54 pm
juanpee on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 3:02 pm
“Peace and quiet without the troublemaker- how refreshing!!!!!”
It was nice while it lasted.
Davy on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 3:03 pm
“BTW cloggo. Contrails are REAL Green. Right up there with Napalm.”
I told you juanpee, my wife is very ill I came over to Italy to bring her home. That is REAL Green. You on the other hand refused to get mental health help and now your wife is gone. You once said she was all that mattered. You shit on her and now she is gone maybe she didn’t matter. Go down 3 blocks to Douglas Gardens and check in
Davy on Thu, 22nd Aug 2019 3:06 pm
“Peace and quiet without the troublemaker- how refreshing!!!!!”
juanpee, you need to be moderated and much of what you say neutered, that is just how you keep a forum balanced and relevant. Lunatics like you marginalize it with stink. Go check in down the beach at Douglas Gardens