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Kunstler: Another Mighty Conundrum

Public Policy

The sanctuary city movement, and all its baggage, terminates in one troublesome idea: that the USA should have open borders and that anyone from a foreign land who manages to get here by whatever means is home-free-all. The most recent Democratic nominee for president said just the other day that she dreamed of open borders. The much-abused word dream has been at the center of our discourse about immigration, a purposefully sentimental manipulation of language for a culture struggling to ascertain the boundaries of reality in an era of universal wishful thinking.

Anyone who listens to National Public Radio, for instance, may notice the care they take to keep the boundary as fuzzy as possible vis-à-vis the status of people here from other lands. “Undocumented” has been the favorite trope, a dodge that implies that the people in question are victims of a clerical error — someone over in the Document Division forgot to hand them the right paperwork. Or else they are all simply labeled “immigrants,” leaving out the question of whether they are in the country legally or not. Do not suppose it is mere sloppiness.

Lately, there is the matter of census-takers asking the people they interview — theoretically everybody who resides in the US — whether they are citizens or not. It would seem to be within the legitimate interests of demographic statisticians to ask that question, but it has ignited a firestorm of opposition. All manner of casuistry has been applied by that opposition to rationalize why we wouldn’t want to know whether people here are citizens or not. It all seems to come down to a cynical political calculation that the voter rolls can be eventually padded in favor of the Democratic Party (of which I remain an unhappy registered member, in order to vote in the New York state primary election).

The sanctuary city movement seems to me the most mendacious element of the story, a nakedly emotional appeal against the rule of law. The attorney general of California, Xavier Becerra, lately threatened to fine corporations there that share employee information with federal agents. There has not been such arrant flouting of federal law by state officials since Governor George Wallace stood in the doorway of the University of Alabama crying “segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever” in June, 1963 — and we all know how that ended.

I’m among those who would like to see the immigration laws honestly enforced. In fact, I would also like to see the 1965 immigration law reformed to admit far fewer people from any land into this country. We have economic and cultural interests to protect, and they would seem to be self-evident.

So why has there been no move by the federal authorities to impose sovereign federal law over figures like Mr. Becerra, or Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf, who went through the barrio there Paul Revere style warning that the ICE agents were coming? Well, one big reason is the marijuana situation. Nine states have legalized cannabis for recreational use (i.e. for getting high), and 29 have legalized it for medical purposes. This includes all of the states on the “Left Coast.” All of them are flouting federal law in doing that. But imagine the political uproar if the feds tried to step in at this point and quash the cannabis trade. In the early adapters, like Colorado, California, and Washington State, the trade has blossomed into multi-million dollar corporate enterprise, with significant tax revenue.

So, much as I object to the dishonest practices around immigration, I don’t see how the federal government can take principled action against them without first addressing its attitude to the marijuana situation. Of course, that could be easily disposed of by congress adopting a simple law to the effect that the cultivation and sale of cannabis shall be regulated by the states. The craven members of congress apparently don’t even dare to raise the issue of resolving this conundrum, and the thought may have never even entered the mighty golden brain-pan of our president — not to mention The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, Fox-News, or any of the other media organs of public debate. Well, maybe the time has come for that discussion.

Kunstler



129 Comments on "Kunstler: Another Mighty Conundrum"

  1. Davy on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 1:02 pm 

    “Your paranoid delusions are becoming more and more complicated Davy. Not a good sign buddy.”

    translation: Davy is getting under my skin. LOL. Slimy.

    greggie, hint, maybe when you have your unrestrained circle jerk rallies at night think about the ass kickin you will get by morning.

  2. Cloggie on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 1:14 pm 

    You dumb dutch people deserve more foreigners because of the way you have exploited and colonized the world for hundreds of years.

    We pulled them out of the stone age, you fool. None of them wants to go back. And now they are missing their former white masters so much that hundreds of millions try to stalk us in our own lands.

    Slavery in contrast, that was American.

    you guys are Nazi allies

    Define “Nazi”, nitwit.

    Oh wait, here is the American view:

    https://tinyurl.com/yajmk3px

    (the guy in the middle, that’s me)

    #AmericansChildrenWhiteRace

    And now you are finished. The US empire is a dead man walking, disintegration of US society is next. You can’t ignore race after all, regardless of how hard self-styled 1-percenter opportunists like Meathead shout “racist”, “nazi” or “Hitler”.

  3. Anonymouse1 on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 1:28 pm 

    Are you seeing nazis everywhere now exceptionalist? Are they under your cot? Do you imagine your goats are card carrying, goose-steppers? As you are seeing nazis, well, everywhere these days, maybe its time for the guys in the white suits to stop by and take you for a ride, to nice padded room. This recent fixation, paranoia really, is very strong in you exceptionalist. But considering how far gone you are, your rampant paranoia is actually one of the milder symptoms lol.

  4. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 1:47 pm 

    Give a man a mask and he will show you his true face.

    -Oscar Wilde

  5. Davy on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 2:17 pm 

    Weasel, your slimy fellow anti-American Canadian is a Nazi and you are tight with him so I guess that makes you a millennial Nazi. You are a Jew baiter holocaust denier so I guess that makes you a Nazi. Yea, my Nazi radar is pretty good.

  6. Cloggie on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 2:24 pm 

    Meathead is completely losing it.

  7. GregT on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 2:37 pm 

    He lost it about four years ago Cloggie, and his condition still continues to get worse. Just as I predicted that it would.

  8. GregT on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 2:41 pm 

    “Are you seeing nazis everywhere now exceptionalist?”

    Apparently, he now has Nazi radar. You just can’t make this stuff up.

  9. Anonymouse1 on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 2:42 pm 

    ‘Nazi radar’, lol. For a psychopath with no discernable sense of humor, you can be (unintentionally) funny at times.

  10. Davy on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 2:43 pm 

    Slimy and dumb n Dutch play tag team. One thing about Nazis they stick together. It must be a ritualistic thing.

  11. Davy on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 2:48 pm 

    Lol, weasel, that got your attention! Yea, you know you are Nazi when you hate Jews as much as the weasle does. That is mostly what the weasel talk about. There is more to life than being a Jew baiting anti-American Canadian, weasel. You need to spend more time trying to be an engineer and less time Jew baiting.

  12. Davy on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 2:52 pm 

    Slimy, at least you finally denied Hiltler was a victim and admitted to the Holocaust but you still are a Nazi becuase you support them. This is typical of your sliminess and that is maintaining a superficial appearance and denying your true positions. The way to call you out is by showing who you support.

  13. GregT on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 3:01 pm 

    “You need to spend more time trying to be an engineer and less time Jew baiting.”

    We already had the discussion about your Jew baiting fixation Davy, and quite frankly, it isn’t at all funny. You are one sick dude buddy

  14. GregT on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 3:05 pm 

    “Slimy, at least you finally denied Hiltler was a victim and admitted to the Holocaust but you still are a Nazi becuase you support them. This is typical of your sliminess and that is maintaining a superficial appearance and denying your true positions.”

    Are you completely unaware of how totally nuts that sounds Davy?

  15. Davy on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 3:16 pm 

    Slimy, you are the stupid one that continues to prick and get your ass kicked in the process. I call that hilarious.

  16. Cloggie on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 3:16 pm 

    “Yea, my Nazi radar is pretty good.”

    Davy has n-dar like others have j-dar.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=j-dar

  17. Anonymouse1 on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 3:23 pm 

    I guess his j-dar explains the deep bond and affinity you and he share cloggraham. He ‘detected’ you and he were fellow travellers, despite the endless nonsense your fake ‘persona’, professes to ‘believe’.

  18. Cloggie on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 3:26 pm 

    “I guess his j-dar explains the deep bond and affinity you and he share cloggraham. He ‘detected’ you and he were fellow travellers, despite the endless nonsense your fake ‘persona’, professes to ‘believe’.”

    https://youtu.be/sGUNPMPrxvA

  19. Davy on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 3:40 pm 

    Weasel, what amazes me is why you and the dumb Dutch guy aren’t friends? You two have so much in common hating Jews and Americans rabidly. It appears a match made in heaven.

  20. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 3:49 pm 

    Clogg number one source1 Youtube..Real professional and sophisticate. Soon his country will be out of natural gas and will suffer state collapse…

  21. Anonymouse1 on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 3:56 pm 

    What amazes me exceptionalist, is why the authorities have not been called to your isolated backwater shack to take you to a better place. You know, with nice, padded walls, comfy jackets, and no sharp objects. Maybe they’ve been too busy chasing down filipino terrorists and ‘nazis’ to get out to your place yet?

  22. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 4:35 pm 

    Forecast for US oil and gas production (Laherrère & Hall 2018)
    https://www.scribd.com/document/375780747/Forecast-for-US-Oil-and-Gas-Production-Laherrere-Hall-2018

  23. Davy on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 4:52 pm 

    Wow, I pegged the weasel, Nazi he is. My question still is why is the weasel not tight with the head cheese Nazi, our board dumb Dutch guy? Could it be a turf thing? The weasel wants to be the head cheese Nazi but he is just a stupid millennial waste case that hasn’t show leadership qualities whereas the dumb Dutch guy acts like a Nazi SS storm trooper when he comments.

  24. GregT on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 5:38 pm 

    Wow, you’ve completely lost all of your marbles now Davy.

    I sincerely hope that they don’t let you get behind the wheel of an automobile, or god forbid, gain access to guns, or even sharp objects. You really should be institutionalized buddy. You are clearly no longer sane.

  25. Davy on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 5:44 pm 

    Shut up slimy, you have lost your marbles playing this game we play. You can’t see I am exposing you as a fool and playing you like a drum. All you want to do is prick Americans so you get sucked into these games. Friggin say something stupid. Geez what a stupid Canadian.

  26. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 6:26 pm 

    It is game over soon so grab what you can, if you can because it won’t last long…

    https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa

  27. makati1 on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 6:34 pm 

    I can hardly wait for the Us to go down and the two resident flag wavers to get what is coming to them. They are perfect examples of the term “Ugly American” and why the term “Yankee go home!” is popular around the world.

    Yes, I know, my family will also suffer, but I have warned them many times to prepare and most ignore me or deny that it can/will happen. So be it. I can not change the direction America is heading and would not want to, if I could. It is well deserved. The sooner it goes down, the better for the rest of the world.

  28. Davy on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 6:49 pm 

    “Yes, I know, my family will also suffer”

    wow, billy 3rd world has a moment of compassion for his family…oops..just a moment then he is back to his blood lust. What a disgusting person.

  29. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 7:18 pm 

    Madkat the whole world is going to collapse you ignorant old fool! You have no reason to believe just the US will collapse. And I have given you several reasons for why its a global collapse this time. For the first time ever on earth. You just won’t change your mind. You are to stubborn/arrogant and close minded.
    https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa

  30. makati1 on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 7:30 pm 

    Compassion has nothing to do with it, Davy. Reality does not recognize ‘feelings’. That is the real world most of us live in. You do not.

    The Us has already pulled the trigger on the bullet that will destroy it. Acceptance of that fact makes the rest of life easier for anyone involved. You may have ‘compassion’ for your family, (if you have one) but it will not change anything. Not one bit. Compassion is lost on anyone dying of a self induced cancer like the Us and its slothful, immoral, greedy citizens. The pain will still be there but is well deserved. I have no ‘compassion’ for those who could have prevented the slaughter of so many hundreds of thousands, even millions, of innocents these last few decades.

    As for my family, all they can do is try to prepare to ease that pain. Few have even tried, even though I have been warning them for over 10 years to do so. So be it.

  31. makati1 on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 7:35 pm 

    MM, and your mind is gong the way of Davy’s. You are a loser. The Us is already collapsing. You just deny the reality. So be it. You deserve what is happening.

    As for a ‘global’ collapse, nope! The Us and it’s wannabees are going down the hardest. Yes, there will be some pain in other countries, but not as much and not as total.

    “… stubborn/arrogant and close minded.” Look in the mirror MM. Add immature, stupid and insane to that list and you have a good description of yourself. LOL

  32. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 7:54 pm 

    Makat

    I must made a manifesto of about 60 plus charts and sources that prove the US is collapsing. I am not a denier like you..I have many reasons for why I believe it will be a global collapse. You have zero reasons. just blind faith and ignorance. Typical baby boomer.
    https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa

  33. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 7:58 pm 

    Madkat

    You are the one going insane and are unreasonable. I just gave you a link twice with over three dozen reasons for why I believe what i do..You have zero, just babble and words. No facts or evidence to support your conclusions. Our whole world is made up of a system of interconnected complex system. And that is obviously to hard for a former uneducated construction worker to understand.

  34. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 8:11 pm 

    Looks like I shut that ignorant blowhard Madkat the fuck down! Now who else wants some of Debo?

  35. DMyers on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 9:06 pm 

    Arguing over whether the entire global system will collapse or only the US is pointless. And calling Makati a “former uneducated construction worker” is a completely uncalled for insult that is also pointless. You prove that insinuation. No way you can, and there is no extant peer reviewed study on the subject, which of itself must leave you speechless.

    The really ridiculous side of your harping on Mak is that to any sane outside observer and reader of yours and his comments, the two of you are mostly in agreement.

  36. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 10:24 pm 

    DMyers

    The difference in me and madkat is that he won’t accept that he is going to feel the pain of the collapse. And he hopes the us collapses and the american public has to suffer terribly. I on the other hand don’t wish the collapse to happen to the US or his country either. I mean what kind of sick person wishes something like that on a country, let alone one you grew up in and have family members and friends living there? I guess that is what happens when you are brainwashed by sites like zero hedge and the fake news he is constantly spamming on this blog…

  37. GregT on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 11:02 pm 

    “The difference in me and madkat is that he won’t accept that he is going to feel the pain of the collapse. And he hopes the us collapses and the american public has to suffer terribly. I on the other hand don’t wish the collapse to happen to the US or his country either. I mean what kind of sick person wishes something like that on a country, let alone one you grew up in and have family members and friends living there? I guess that is what happens when you are brainwashed by sites like zero hedge and the fake news he is constantly spamming on this blog…”

    You should have gotten the help that you so desperately needed, at least four years ago. It is now too late. You’ve gone completely off of the deep end buddy.

  38. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 11:11 pm 

    Have you seen that Microsoft commercial on TV, that has a black dude standing on stage preaching. And one of things he asserts is that “We are living in a world right now that we always dreamed of”…

  39. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 11:13 pm 

    Greg

    Ad hom attacks are not an argument.

  40. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 11:16 pm 

    Greg

    And what does a dumb old Canadian neck beard like you know about anything. You are a stupid doomsday prepper! Which is basically a cult for fundamentalist religious people. I bet your kids are so embarrassed and ashamed. For good reason as well.

  41. Cloggie on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 11:28 pm 

    “Madkat the whole world is going to collapse you ignorant old fool! You have no reason to believe just the US will collapse. And I have given you several reasons for why its a global collapse this time.“

    If the US empire will go the way of the dodo, USSR style, the consequences will be immense. All around the planet groups, countries, religeons will attempt to fill the power-vacuum and expand. Most important expanding centers of power:

    – China (Down Under, Vancouver)
    – Mexico (US SW)
    – Turkey, Iran: complete western decolonization of the ME, breakup KSA and Palestine. Most Israelis fleeing to Upstate New York. Formation of a Sunny Caliphate in the Magrebh under Turkish leadership

    Break-up US in 4 parts: Mexican SW, white Heartland, SE for Louis Farakhan and Upstate NY for the Soros-bunch; we can’t discipline the latter too much otherwise they will launch their Jericho missiles against Europe:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

    My geopolitical 2 cents:

    http://tinyurl.com/y8ydx6a9

    Greetings from Samuel Huntington.

    #ClashOfCivilizations

  42. GregT on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 11:37 pm 

    “I bet your kids are so embarrassed and ashamed. For good reason as well.”

    My son is here right now MM. He’s younger than you are, and very well aware about what’s going on in the world.

  43. Cloggie on Sat, 7th Apr 2018 11:48 pm 

    And I forgot the most important development: the formation of a Gaullist continental European confederation and rebirth of European civilization/white race after the 1945 (((Anglo-Soviet disaster))) and protector of European America and first address on the planet:

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/12/03/paris-berlin-moscow/

    Bye-bye…

    https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Century-Yuri-Slezkine/dp/0691127603/ref=sr_1_1

    Termination of two Anglo centuries:

    https://goo.gl/images/wmjbmV

    Multipolar world is next, dominated by Europe and China.

  44. GregT on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 12:05 am 

    And BTW MM, he has a degree in electrical engineering, paid for it himself, and has zero debt. All from summertime work, and scholarships.

  45. makati1 on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 12:18 am 

    Losers always want to take everyone else down with them.

    The Us took the first bullet in 1971 when it created unlimited debt.

    It took the next one when it decided to take down the USSR.

    Third bullet was the invasion of the ME with no way to win or even exit gracefully.

    Forth bullet is the 800 plus bases and $1T military/security budget that is bleeding the citizens dry.

    Fifth bullet is the hatred building up around the world for all things American.

    Sixth bullet is taking on the real powers, Russia and China, in a war it cannot win. This is the fatal one.

    America is bleeding to death from the above and a thousand cuts from its debt based economy. To say that the rest of the world will go down with it is pure hubris.* Americans actually believe that they are indispensable/exceptional. In reality, they are delusional.

    * Hubris: excessive pride or self-confidence; arrogance.

  46. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 1:01 am 

    “Compassion has nothing to do with it, Davy. Reality does not recognize ‘feelings’. That is the real world most of us live in. You do not.”

    Sure it does billy 3rd world because Humans are part of reality. I think you are bargaining with your feelings and trying to justify a really bad disposition you have that is giving you cognitive dissonance. These people you want to die are also your family. What kind of disgusting person feels that way? Extremist are this way and people who feel the end justifies the means. We know what that type of behavior brought us, the inquisition and the final solution.

  47. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 1:11 am 

    “If the US empire will go the way of the dodo, USSR style, the consequences will be immense. All around the planet groups, countries, religeons will attempt to fill the power-vacuum and expand. Most important expanding centers of power:”

    Yea, the US Empire is going down but only so far and there is little room for a vacuum. China will be lucky to hold itself together and Europe is already unable to extend it union anymore. The EU will also start its break up. The whole process is also governed by the limits globalism is hitting and planetary decline. All nations will be part of this. You exaggerate the decline of the US Empire and fail to see the difference between the decline of an empire already in decline and the decline of globalism that is declining in parallel. You are so focused on your Paris/Berlin/Moscow nonsense you can’t understand the deeper currents in world affairs. Everything needs to fit your carefully crafted fantasy puzzle game.

  48. MASTERMIND on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 1:12 am 

    Clogg

    Europe’s Biggest Natural Gas Producer Is Running Out of Fuel
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-16/europe-s-biggest-natural-gas-producer-is-running-out-of-fuel

    Whats your country going to export without natural gas? Nobody is going to want your stupid wooden shoes! LOL Your economy is a one trick pony. Take away the natural resources and you will be no better than Pakistan. Remember when Hitler took away all of your peoples food. And caused a famine ‘The dutch hunger famine”? That is one of the reasons why your people are so cheap!

  49. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 1:15 am 

    “Multipolar world is next, dominated by Europe and China.”

    That would be Bipolar not multipolar. You are correct but that multipolar world is now the US, China, Russia, and EU. This will be the shape of things until all nations decay into something smaller or kill each other during this century of decline.

  50. Davy on Sun, 8th Apr 2018 1:18 am 

    “America is bleeding to death from the above and a thousand cuts from its debt based economy.”

    You are unable to see the same thing is happening everywhere billy 3rd world. This is your extremist lie you live.

    “To say that the rest of the world will go down with it is pure hubris.* Americans actually believe that they are indispensable/exceptional. In reality, they are delusional.”

    Who has the hubris and touting the indispensable and the dispensable? I think you are billy. You are telling on yourself.

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