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Foreign Minister Jubeir slams global outcry over journalist’s killing as ‘hysterical’, saying investigations take time.
Saudi Arabia has admitted Jamal Khashoggi was killed inside its consulate in the Turkish city of Istanbul.
Khashoggi – a Saudi writer, US resident, and Washington Post columnist – entered the building on October 2 to obtain documentation certifying he had divorced his ex-wife so he could remarry.
After weeks of repeated denials that it had anything to do with his disappearance, the kingdom eventually acknowledged that the murder was premeditated. The whereabouts of his body are still unknown.
Here are the latest developments:
Saturday, October 27
Saudi FM: Khashoggi issue has become ‘hysterical’
Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir has criticised the global outcry surrounding Khashoggi’s killing as “hysterical” and rejected Turkey’s demand to extradite the suspects.
“The issue has become fairly hysterical,” Jubeir said, adding that investigations take time and facts should be determined as inquiries continue.
Answering questions from journalists at a regional summit in Bahrain, Jubeir described Saudi Arabia’s relationship with the United States as “ironclad”, despite earlier comments from US Secretary of State James Mattis that the killing “undermines regional stability”.
Saudi FM: Khashoggi murder suspects will not be extradited
Riyadh dismissed Ankara’s calls to extradite 18 Saudis wanted for the murder of Khashoggi.
“The individuals are Saudi nationals. They’re detained in Saudi Arabia, and the investigation is in Saudi Arabia, and they will be prosecuted in Saudi Arabia,” Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told a regional defence forum in Bahrain.
He was responding to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan who on Friday renewed his call for the 18 men to be extradited for trial in Turkey.
Mattis: Khashoggi killing ‘undermines regional stability’
US Defence Secretary James Mattis said that Khashoggi’s murder “undermines regional stability” and that the US intends to take further action in response.
Speaking to an audience of international officials in Bahrain, Mattis avoided mentioning Saudi Arabia in connection with the murder but did say that US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had already revoked some Saudi visas and “will be taking additional measures”.
“With our collective interests in peace and unwavering respect for human rights in mind, the murder of Jamal Khashoggi in a diplomatic facility must concern us all,” he said.
He added that “our respect for the Saudi people is undiminished” but that respect “must come with transparency and trust”.
Mattis also argued that Russia could not replace US commitment to the Middle East, saying that Moscow lacked essential moral principles, and renewed criticism of Iran’s “outlaw regime”.
Friday, October 26
France’s Macron says Khashoggi killing no reason to halt arms sales to Saudi
French President Emmanuel Macron has dismissed calls by several European countries to suspend arms sales to Saudi Arabia following Khashoggi’s murder, calling them “pure demagoguery”.
Any sanctions should target “a field of activity … or individuals or interests who have been shown to have had something to do with the murder of Mr Khashoggi”, Macron told a news conference in Slovakia’s capital, Bratislava, adding “it’s pure demagoguery to say that we should stop selling arms”.
“That has nothing to do with the Khashoggi affair. That is linked to the situation in Yemen [where Saudi Arabia is fighting Houthi rebels], which requires a very close follow-up”.
He added that any sanctions following Khashoggi’s killing should be imposed at a European level “once the facts have been established”.
Khashoggi’s fiancee: Why I declined Trump’s invitation
The fiancee of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi has called for those responsible for his murder to be brought to justice, adding that she declined an invitation by US President Donald Trump to visit the White House.
Hatice Cengiz, a Turkish national, made the comments in an emotional interview with broadcaster Haberturk on Friday, her first TV appearance since Khashoggi’s killing inside the kingdom’s consulate in Istanbul more than three weeks ago.
“I demand that all those involved in this savagery from the highest to the lowest levels are punished and brought to justice,” she said.
In her interview with the Turkish broadcaster, Cengiz said Trump has invited her to visit the White House but said she would not go until the US was sincere in its efforts to uncover the truth behind Khashoggi’s killing.
Referring to Trump’s invitation, she said: “I perceived it as a statement to win public favour”.
Turkey seeks extradition of 18 Saudi suspects
Turkish prosecutors plan to seek the extradition of 18 suspects over the killing of Khashoggi.
Anadolu Agency said on Friday the Istanbul chief prosecutor’s office submitted its request to Turkey’s justice ministry, adding that the foreign ministry would formally request the extraditions.
“The reasoning behind the extradition request is that Jamal Khashoggi was murdered in Turkey by Saudi nationals who traveled to Turkey for this specific purpose,” a senior Turkish official said.
“It is clear that the judicial system in Turkey is better equipped to genuinely serve the cause of justice in this case,” the official added.
“The court proceedings in Turkey will be open to international observers in order to ensure the greatest level of transparency.”
Erdogan: Turkey has more evidence of killing
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that Ankara has more documents and information, which it will reveal “when the time is right”.
During a speech to provincial members of his AK Party in the Turkish capital, Erdogan called on Saudi Arabia to reveal who gave the order for the dissident journalist to be killed.
He also announced that the chief Saudi prosecutor will be arriving in Istanbul on Sunday to meet with his Turkish counterpart as part of the investigation into Khashoggi’s murder.
Erdogan added that Khashoggi’s killer is likely to be among the 18 men arrested by Riyadh.
“There is no other explanation, the perpetrator is among these 18 people and if it isn’t then you have to explain who is the local collaborator,” he said.
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During the speech, Erdogan also called on the Saudis to hand over the men arrested in connection with the murder to Turkish authorities.
“If you are determined to lift this shroud of mystery, then this is the key point of our collaboration,” he said.
Mehmet Celik, a journalist from Daily Sabah, a pro-government English language newspaper in Turkey, said Erdogan had taken a more forceful position in the speech than previously.
“I think this is one of the harsher remarks Erdogan made on the case and he named both King Salman and Mohammed bin Salman, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.
“I think the [tone] and the language he used was significant in today’s speech, he was definitely harsher, he said the explanations made so far by Saudi Arabia were “childish” and he demanded more concrete and consistent answers from Saudi Arabia,” said Celik.
Search for Khashoggi’s body
Al Jazeera’s Alan FIsher said the speech showed that Turkey remained fully committed to getting to the bottom of Khashoggi’s killing.
He said that searches by Turkish authorities of a well in the consular grounds and a forest on the outskirts of Istanbul may suggest that Khashoggi’s remains have been disposed of in more than one location.
“The horrific reality is that we might be looking at not just one site, but perhaps two, three – even more – where perhaps this body has been scattered … The Turks seem to be on the mind that the body wasn’t taken out of the country and they therefore want the Saudis to point to this so-called Turkish cooperator,” he said.
Kremlin: No reason to doubt Saudi statements
Russia said it believes Saudi royals were not involved in Khashoggi’s murder after Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed the case with Saudi King Salman.
Dmitry Peskov, a Kremlin spokesman, called a journalist’s question on whether Moscow fully believes that the royals had no part in the murder “inappropriate”.
“There’s an official statement from the king, there’s an official statement from the crown prince and no one should have any grounds not to believe them,” Peskov said during a conference call on Friday.
Putin spoke to King Salman by telephone on Thursday to discuss “the situation around the case of Khashoggi”, according to a Kremlin statement.
In the wake of the Khashoggi controversy, a number of international leaders as well as prominent CEOs pulled out of an investment summit in Riyadh.
Al Jazeera’s Step Vaessen, reporting from Moscow, said that a Russian delegation did attend the Future Investment Initiative.
“It has been said, that Russia might be taking advantage of the deteriorating relationship between Saudi Arabia and a lot of Western countries,” she said.
Turkish foreign minister speaks with Saudi counterpart
Turkey’s Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu has had a telephone call with his Saudi counterpart Adel al-Jubeir, a Turkish foreign ministry source said on Friday.
No information has so far been revealed about the content of the call.
Germany welcomes plan for joint EU position on Saudi arms deals
Germany’s Economy Minister Peter Altmaier said he welcomed Austria’s proposal for a joint European position on arm exports to Saudi Arabia.
Altmaier made the comments in an interview with German broadcaster Deutschlandfunk (DLF) on Friday.
The German government has agreed not to deliver weapons to the kingdom at the moment, he said in an interview during a visit to Turkey, adding that the effect of that decision would be stronger if European countries adopted a common position.
US praises Saudi move to lift travel ban on Khashoggi’s son
The son of slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Salah, arrived in the United States after Saudi Arabia lifted a travel ban.
A State Department spokesperson said the US welcomed the decision by Riyadh to allow the dual Saudi-American citizen to go.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo discussed Salah’s status during his recent visit to the kingdom, spokesman Robert Palladino told reporters.
Palladino said Pompeo “made it clear to Saudi leaders that he wanted Salah Khashoggi to return to the United States, and we are pleased that he is now able to do so”.
The destination of Salah and his family was not known, but his late father lived in the Washington area.
The Saudi leadership drew sharp condemnation this week for staging a photo-op showing a clearly uncomfortable Salah shaking hands with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who has been accused of orchestrating Khashoggi’s murder.
UN: Khashoggi was victim of ‘extrajudicial execution’
The United Nations special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions said Khashoggi’s killing bears the hallmark of an extrajudicial execution.
“What we know is sufficient to suggest very strongly that Mr Khashoggi was the victim of an extrajudicial execution and that the Saudi Arabia government is implicated in one way or another,” Agnes Callamard told Al Jazeera.
Callamard called for an international investigation into Khashoggi’s murder earlier in the day at a UN session in New York City.
Faisal Fahad, the Saudi representative on the UN committee, said Callamard had overstepped her remit with her comments. “Kindly do not give us any personal opinions in this official meeting,” he said.
Al Jazeera’s Diplomatic Editor James Bays, reporting from the United Nations, said it’s unclear if an international probe will come to fruition.
“The UN secretary general [Antonio Guterres] says he will only form a panel to investigate if he gets a referral from one of the main bodies of the UN – the Security Council, the General Assembly, or the Human Rights Council, or from one of the countries concerned,” he said.
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| Agnes Callamard, the UN’s Special Rapporteur on Extra-Judicial Summary or Arbitrary Executions [Karim Kadim/AP] |
CIA director briefs Trump on Turkey evidence
CIA chief Gina Haspel returned from Turkey and briefed US President Donald Trump on her findings in the Khashoggi killing, the US State Department said.
“The president received a briefing from Director Haspel this morning following her return from Turkey. She briefed the president on their [Turks’] findings and her discussions,” spokeswoman Sarah Sanders said in a statement.
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The Washington Post, which Khashoggi contributed to as a columnist, has reported that Haspel listened to “compelling” audio recordings from Turkey’s government that captured the killing of the Saudi writer.
Al Jazeera’s Mike Hanna, reporting from Washington, DC, said the Trump-Haspel meeting was crucial as the US president said he wanted all the evidence available before making a decision on how to respond to Saudi Arabia.
He noted Secretary of State Mike Pompeo also attended the meeting, but there were no other details of exactly what was discussed.
“The silence is a bit strange given that President Trump had been so adamant in recent days that this was a critical meeting in terms of the US getting information to determine how it’s going act in the days ahead,” said Hanna.
Khashoggi Friends Association holds global protest demanding justice
Supporters of Jamal Khashoggi gathered in cities around the world calling for those responsible for his murder to be held accountable.
In Istanbul, a man wearing a mask of Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, with fake blood on his hands, stood outside the consulate where he was killed more than three weeks ago.
The demonstrations were organised by a group calling itself the Khashoggi Friends Association, which is demanding justice for his murder.
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Protests were also held in London, Paris, and Washington, DC.
The event was not just a call for accountability for Khashoggi’s death, it was also an appeal to leaders in the Middle East to respect freedom of speech, highlighting “journalism is not a crime“.
96 Comments on "Khashoggi killers to be tried in kingdom"
JuanP on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 8:49 am
This forum is in anarchy now because of fuckers like Davy and the MOB. I am thinking about leaving like other great contributrors have. When this crude starts affecting my personality at home that is when it is time to move on. Anyone out there have an alternative site as an option?
This is it on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 8:54 am
Sure Juan…post at Our Finite World and it’s much more cival and sane there. Gail Tverberg moderates very closely and keeps it that way.
Except, for her Pet troll, Fast Eddie, who represents the worse that you encounter here.
But once she censors you…I mean moderates…you know you have shown her she is incorrect and that is a no, no.
Wavy Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 8:58 am
Sure, Juan, post at the Automatic Earth.
They post very revelant articles related to this topic daily with a picture of noteworthy art to appreciate and ponder. Lots of opportunities to for input and no harrasment
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 9:01 am
Sure Juan…post at Our Finite World and it’s much more cival and sane there. Gail Tverberg moderates very closely and keeps it that way.
Precisely the reason I would NOT go there.
This forum will survive f* like the Mob anyway, since it is clear who is who.
I love free speech and Darwinian conditions, where you have to pay attention and fight like a Pirate of the Caribbean, rather than walking hand-in-hand with auntie Gail.
Good boy.
Yuck.
En garde! LOL
What a Guy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 9:02 am
Sure, Juan, post at Surviving in Argentina.
A blog website of Fernado and regularly posts helpful insights to make it through the coming crisis. That’s perfect place for you, since you plan to settle in that region.
Hope this helps, bye and you will be missed.
Take care…we will come there to visit..
Promise…so long and good luck
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 9:07 am
What a guy, your faggot preppie site will not save you when the MOB comes and steals your food and breeds your daughters.
What a Guy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 9:11 am
Oh, Pleaaase, Fast Eddie, stop now, just because you have in your demented fantasies a Haram and mass killings doesn’t mean it will occur. After all, up to now how many times have you been right about ANYTHING!?
Sound of crickets. Enjoy you prep hole in NZ, loser, lol
Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 9:21 am
“I love free speech and Darwinian conditions, where you have to pay attention and fight like a Pirate of the Caribbean”
Neder, the real reason is there are few places you can go and preach Nazi history revisions and white racist fantasies. Any site that is moderated will see that behavior ended. This is the reason why you are here and not on a Dutch or German comment board. There you will face legal actions. You also like the sick pleasure of preaching the end of the US to Americans because you are so resentful of you Euro 20th century failings.
Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 9:22 am
BTW that was the real Davy
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 9:35 am
Proud Boy with 2 children is shocked that Gavin didn’t help him with money after he was arrested, lost his job, and was made homeless. Everybody point and laugh (
https://i.imgur.com/wrTf5XE.png
joe on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 9:38 am
Oh, it only took 4 weeks to bury the khashoggi sorry tale of rip the face off and send the journos fingers to Riyadh so that MBS can keep them as a trophy. Then again killing one guy and tearing him limb from limb because his brand of islamo-facism is not quite the same as yours does not quite match up to blowing up a bus load of innocent children using bombs Made in the USA, MAGA!
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 9:41 am
Neder, the real reason is there are few places you can go and preach Nazi history revisions and white racist fantasies.
You mean all these topics you refuse to discuss because you know that all the empire stories are a pack of lies? Time and time again I have kicked your ass without you being able to do anything about it.
And what “racist fantasies”? The “fantasy” that your country could be on the verge of a civil war because of changing demographics? Even Thomas Friedman now admits he is afraid of a civil war:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/opinion/the-american-civil-war-part-ii.html
Multi-ethnic societies are ALWAYS full of strife, competition, friction and tension, but you don’t want to have that true, because you know very well that if these tensions boil over, your empire and even country is toast, like so many other examples in history.
Am I resentful? Hmmm… I am definitely member of a different, at least as illustrious club than yours. I am indeed biding my time for the moment we can supersede you. And the way things look now, we only have to wait for that to happen.
Your club has turned so many countries in ruins over the past century, now it is your turn to be on the receiving end of history. Enjoy your demise.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 9:53 am
This is the reason why you are here and not on a Dutch or German comment board.
It is indeed much more interesting to be on this “empire board” in 2018 than on a Dutch or let alone a German board, where indeed I can say less than here. I wouldn’t face prosecution though, I would be thrown of a board long before that.
And yes, you hate what I am saying because I destroy all the lies you hold so dear. But keep in mind that I am NOT strictly anti-American; anti-Washington, yes, and hence anti-you.LOL
But at the same time I am pointing in the direction of a shared European and European-American interest. I basically accept the views of the US alt-right and work towards a merger of US-alt-right and European populists interests. And I think the time has come for a major geopolitical change in the coming few years, a change you definitely do not like, but I do.
Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 9:54 am
Wow, neder, that was a good dodge. When you dodge the bullet it is like agreeing. Your Nazi racist shit would be gone if this unmoderated side of the board were to get moderated. That is the plain and simple of it.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 10:08 am
Wow, neder, that was a good dodge. When you dodge the bullet it is like agreeing. Your Nazi racist shit would be gone if this unmoderated side of the board were to get moderated. That is the plain and simple of it.
“moderated” (censored) yes, but my arguments defeated, no. You can’t. So you constantly resort to name-calling, like the meaningless “Nazi”-smear, which will only impress dummies.
You in contrast are smart enough to know you are a liar.
But your expressed wish for me to go already contains implicit admission of defeat of your entire imperial worldview and views on history, that are nothing but propaganda.
You are shitting in your pants for what is ahead of you, as you should. Because your world is about to implode, USSR-1989 style.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 10:24 am
Thomas Friedman in 2009:
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2009/12/thomas-friedman-s-islamic-civil-war-moment/341605/
We had a civil war in America in the mid-19th century because we had a lot of people who believed bad things — namely that you could enslave people because of the color of their skin. We defeated those ideas and the individuals, leaders and institutions that propagated them, and we did it with such ferocity that five generations later some of their offspring still have not forgiven the North.
Islam needs the same civil war.
Right.
The same Thomas Friedman in 2018:
I began my journalism career covering a civil war in Lebanon. I never thought I’d end my career covering a civil war in America.
We may not be there yet, but if we don’t turn around now, we will surely get where we’re going — which was best described by Senator Jeff Flake on Monday: “Tribalism is ruining us. It is tearing our country apart. It is no way for sane adults to act.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/opinion/the-american-civil-war-part-ii.html
Message to media commie Friedman: you cannot eradicate “tribalism”, regardless how hard you shout natzi or racist.
But it appears that Friedman (and davy) will have to learn the hard way. So sad, they thought they could ram the entire world into their “benevolent” empire, now the melting pot is boiling over.
JuanP on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 10:36 am
Cloggie, I agree with most of your comments. The Nazis did some things wrong but so did the Allies. The important point is they were strong and effective. They protected their people against inferior ones. This is survival of the fitest and the reason the multi-cult US empire is failing. Disregard the exceptionalist he is a delusional flag waiver. I hate him and don’t plan on leaving this site until he is gone.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 11:09 am
Clogg
I have challenged you numerous times to ask an independent historian..And you have refused every time..
Your arguments are baseless..You are a sad, and pathetic low life..
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 11:12 am
Clogg
We dont have enough time or resources to fight a civil war..this isn’t Africa..When the oil starts to runl out in a few years globally that will be the end of the world..
Permian Won’t Be Enough – Prepare for Supply Gap and ‘a Decade of Disorder’
https://www.oilandgas360.com/panel-permian-wont-be-enough-prepare-for-supply-gap-and-a-decade-of-disorder/
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 11:13 am
Clogg
I have challenged you numerous times to ask an independent historian..And you have refused every time..
That’s not a challenge, that is a defection and an admission of defeat from your side. I *am* an independent historian, YOU have a problem because YOU have no arguments, low-IQ nit-wit. How about YOU visiting a historian for help (and while you are at it, a psychiater as well.lol).
Loser.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 11:15 am
We dont have enough time or resources to fight a civil war..this isn’t Africa..When the oil starts to runl out in a few years globally that will be the end of the world..
What oil running out? What the frack are you talking about.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2018/08/19/the-sudden-death-of-peak-oil-4-5-trillion-barrels-of-oil-left/
Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 11:45 am
“I *am* an independent historian, YOU have a problem because YOU have no arguments, low-IQ nit-wit.”
“LOL, that is like when you called yourself an energy engineer because, you know, you graduated college with an undergraduate emphasis in engineering. Neder, you are a history revisionist who is peddling an sick agenda. You have no formal education. Anybody with enough imagination and the internet can reinvent history these days. You are a dime a dozen and you think you are Like Hitler with his Mein Kampf. Besides where in Peak Oil DOT COM do you see Nazi history? It ain’t there neder so go to a neo-Nazi site to spread your puke”
Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 11:56 am
MOB, you will appreciate this one:
https://tinyurl.com/ydc3nktn
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 11:57 am
Clogg
Ask an independent historian..Prove yourself..
You won’t because you know you are wrong and mentally incompetent.
IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 11:58 am
Neder, you are a history revisionist who is peddling an sick agenda.
I am a revisionist alright.
Now where exactly am I “sick”?
Expect as per usual a studious silence, because davy-boy is not interested in discussing topics, only in peddling propaganda. Davy prefers to “moderate” rather than discuss… because he has no arguments. He will never get any further than smear words like “sick”, “natzi”, “racist”, “puke”, “Hitler”. He has the intellectual depth of a soup plate. He stopped developing intellectually at 12 years old.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 12:01 pm
Clogg is obviously scared to death to have a real independent expert examine him theories..He knows he would be laughed at..
Sorry clogg, amateur youtube videos isn’t historical evidence.
Typical Low IQ conservative who is afraid..
Why Liberals Are More Intelligent Than Conservatives
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservatives
Conservatives Big on Fear, Brain Study Finds
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds
Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 12:04 pm
translation: I have lost the argument and am wounded. I pulled out my sock puppet “sum” to try to discredit Davy. This is the best I can do because being a Nazi racist my arguments are flimsy and in my home country illegal. This is why I have infected a North American web site.
Cloggie on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 12:31 pm
“Clogg is obviously scared to death to have a real independent expert examine him theories..He knows he would be laughed at..”
Laughing is not an argument. So you admit you are too stupid to even repeat the official story. No wonder you degraded yourself from “MASTERMIND’” to mobster. What a self-knowledge, chapeau!
Again, here is my view about history since 1891:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/03/24/risk-geopolitics/
Of course, both you and dave are too much of a hillbilly to ever be able to compete with me on matters of history, that’s ok. You can kiss my ring now, walk backwards three steps and quietly leave the room and shut up for ever about natzies.
Now go.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 12:38 pm
Clogg
I asked an energy economist about my theories of collapse..And guess what? I was right..Unlike you I can put my money where my mouth is..
I emailed Professor Douglas B Reynolds PhD, Oil and Energy Economics, University of Alaska.
http://uaf.edu/files/som/REYNOLDS-Doug-2016-CV.pdf
And I asked him if our upcoming oil shortage will cause a global economic collapse?
https://imgur.com/a/rBtIrfg
He replied;
“Yes, it will be like that, but may be worse with other extenuating circumstances such as war or the decline of international trade. Hyperinflation as happened in the Soviet and Post Soviet economy is a certainty.”
https://imgur.com/a/rktmHdt
“The TRUTH fears no questions”
Sissyfuss on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 12:39 pm
Davy isn’t that immature that he would abscond with other posters titles. Mentalmidget is capable of that and much worse.
Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 12:42 pm
You noticed that too sis! Lol.
Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 1:13 pm
I am the board moderator Sissyfuss. I will ruin the board for anybody who does not agree with me. A sure sign of maturity.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 1:38 pm
Sisy
I bet you stroke out while I breed your daughters..I am going to have more kids than Stanford!
Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 1:45 pm
Anyone that is a regular here knows I call sissyfuss “sis” so disregard the identity theft above. Not that it matters because most of you disregard this bad behavior anyway. Some may even find it entertaining like those who don’t come here for knowledge but instead come here for social media games.
Kick the anti-american dog I made of granite forum on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 1:52 pm
i’m no longer anontarded1. sis is highertrad who has direct line to uppertards who run this site
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 2:10 pm
What is happening to our country?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-is-happening-to-our-country/2018/10/27/47b462f6-da13-11e8-aeb7-ddcad4a0a54e_story.html?fbclid=IwAR1_d1w8qyxpgCuuGs6A8ChdIXGimsvIswyP_TmWFOqN4a5G9k1wIYb_7ts&noredirect=on&utm_term=.00805e8bb5ff
onlooker on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 2:22 pm
What a nauseating article. What us happening to the US is what is happening to the entire planet. All this was to be expected. We let selfish, greedy and power hungry people map the course for our species. And now the consequences of that are coming to bear
Sissyfuss on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 2:23 pm
Amoebamind, I am a nonbreeding tree hugger but I do have a beautiful step daughter that is a cross between Bridgette Bardot and Grace Kelly. And she as accurate as I with my 45 caliber S&W. So if you’re feeling froggy, by all means,jump.
Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 3:31 pm
Anyone that is a regular here knows that I believe I am the board moderator. Crazy shit huh? Not that it matters, because I will continue to disregard my bad behaviour and drag the entire board down to my level of dumbass. Some may come here to gain knowledge from others, but I will never let that happen.
I am the exceptionalturd, the supreme overlord, and I love the rancid smell of my own festering piles of shit.
I AM THE MOB on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 3:32 pm
Sissy
And after I breed your step daughter..If that bitch won’t swallow..I’ll put it on a spoon for her, and make airplane noises..Since she wants to be a bad girl!
LMFAO!
Please kick the anti-american dog I made of granite forum on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 3:32 pm
anontard why u dislike supertard so much?
JuanP on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 3:35 pm
I swallow if I like the guy a lot.
Davy on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 4:51 pm
Everyone that is a regular here knows that JuanP is highly respected. They also know that I posted the above, and that I am the board delusional dumbass..
JuanP on Sun, 28th Oct 2018 5:35 pm
Lol, Davy you think you are hot shit because you got a goat pregnant. I knocked a dog up and we are shacking up together on a barrier island. I am going to name my pups Romulus and Remus assuming there are only two. My bitch dog’s name is cleopatra. When there is a full moon we howl together than fuck doggie style.
Let Freedom Ring on Mon, 29th Oct 2018 6:01 am
(NEW YORK) New York Daily News
Suspected mail bomber took Trump’s insults to the next scary level
The President of the United States bears responsibility for inciting the incomprehensible — the attempted assassination via bomb of his top marks.
Pipe bombs were sent to President Barack Obama, Presdient Bill Clinton and former Secretary of Ste Hillary Clinton, former Vice President Joe Biden, CNN, former CIA director John Brennan, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif), Robert DeNiro, Sen. Cory Booker, a New Jersey Democrat, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), Obama’s former attorney general Eric H. Holder, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and activist/businessman/philanthropist George Soros.
Donald Trump’s pro-violence stance against the media, his jealous blatant hatred of Obama, his disgusting mockery of Democrats, and his vile taunts against his chief rival Hillary Clinton as “Crooked Hillary” have created an atmosphere in which one lunatic finally decided to go all the way.
Suspect Cesar Sayoc is accused of going to the next level and trying to assassinate Trump’s enemies.
Sayoc, a MAGA-lover who gushed over Trump on social media, drove around in a van covered in pro-Trump stickers and trashed the very people he’s accused of targeting with the pipe bombs on social media.
Sayoc apparently acted alone – but the fault for the pipe bombs stands directly and shamefully with the President of the United States, who has waged an uncivil war against anyone he considers an enemy and dangerously divided this nation.
Cesar Sayoc is suspected of sending the pipe bombs. (Handout)
After the packages started popping up, Trump blamed the media, then he expressed concern that the pipe bombs were slowing Republicans’ election day momentum.
Trump momentarily tried to strike a conciliatory tone on Friday while speaking off a teleprompter at a black leadership event – but moments later, after someone in the crowd shouted “lock ‘em’ up about Trump’s rivals, he repeated the phrase and laughed.
The moment shows that the President is incapable of calming the nation; he’s capable only of stoking the flames of fury.
The man who has run a country based on Twitter, fearmongering against brown foreigners-as-terrorists, women and in fact anyone who isn’t a privileged white man in a suit, must now deal with the fact that his terrible labors appear to have borne bitter fruit.
What did we all expect would happen when the President once again last week encouraged violence by telling a rally that his hero is Congressman Greg Gianforte for body-slamming a reporter?
What did we expect from a man who, in his first book, “The Art of The Deal” boasted, ”In the second grade I actually gave a teacher a black eye — I punched my music teacher because I didn’t think he knew anything about music.”
These are the boasts of a bully who now unfortunately has the biggest bully pulpit in the world.
We don’t need to fear foreign terrorists because we have become our own terrorists.
Who will calm this country? Who out there will stand up and bring this country together? Our elected officials should be the people to do this — and I’m not talking about just the business-as-usual Democrats.
The GOP, handmaidens to the wannabe dictator Donald, has already shoved through an accused bully to the Supreme Court. Time for violence against each other to stop.
It’s time for every single elected official in the Congress and the Senate — yes, just days before the midterm elections — to say the violent talk and inappropriate encouragement of hatred and bigotry by Donald Trump must stop. The buck stops with the President — but then again the buck has always stopped with Trump.
Why should it be any different now? The buck not only stops, but has been pocketed by the man who is now President.
Davy on Mon, 29th Oct 2018 6:07 am
link please?